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Old 12-31-2012, 10:03 AM   #61
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Game on today at noon. Espn. See what you think.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:08 AM   #62
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I can't argue with u about this player. There're 5 highly rated pro style Qbs being bandied about by the so called experts. The aforementioned Wilson, Matt Barkley, Tyler Bray, Landry Jones and Sean Renfree.

I want to draft 2 of em in 2013 and let the chips fall where they may. Of those 5 i want Bray in the 2nd and Renfree in the 5th. Bray needs time, but I don't think Renfree does. Bray's upside is much higher. Both the guys i want are above 6'3" and 220 lbs.
Wilson sucks... He's got fire but just watch the decision making. You dont' get any better at that.

It's almost as though he's not comfortable throwing the ball to anyone on his team unless they are doubled.


Hell, the videos are available for everyone to watch on Youtube now. Go there and watch a game cut-up from this season.

If you want release and arm specifically, look at Nassib. He's release and arm strength, along with pocket presence is elite. He's got some other things that hold him back though. Hate the deep ball and not sure he's mind is as quick as it needs to be.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:55 AM   #63
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There is not one QB worth taking in the first round. Taking Glennon at 9 may be the biggest reach in the history of the NFL draft.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:16 AM   #64
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Glennon, at least to me, has the raw tools to succeed. He has the size, arm for sure, seems to look off defenders, good pocket presence, and the ability to grow after some seasoning. I'd take him second round.

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Old 12-31-2012, 11:37 AM   #65
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I'd rather not use a top 15 pick this year for a guy that "could work" and "needs proper coaching".. Granted this is a weak draft, but I'd feel more comfortable picking the best QB option in 3rd round. If Glennon's the guy (ugh), so be it.

I'm not a fan of Bray. We have enough ticking time-bombs on this team.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:01 PM   #66
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Wilson sucks... He's got fire but just watch the decision making. You dont' get any better at that.

It's almost as though he's not comfortable throwing the ball to anyone on his team unless they are doubled.


Hell, the videos are available for everyone to watch on Youtube now. Go there and watch a game cut-up from this season.

If you want release and arm specifically, look at Nassib. He's release and arm strength, along with pocket presence is elite. He's got some other things that hold him back though. Hate the deep ball and not sure he's mind is as quick as it needs to be.
I have had enough of Midget QBs with questionable arm strength or issues with touch and accuracy. Not a single person was talking about this Kid before CBTNY talked him up. Now he's the hottest thing since slice Bread. I have watched a few games of Glennin, and his accuracy reminds me of mark Sanchez.

I like Sean Renfree, I like Bray dispite his issues. Neither will be drafted in the 1st 2 rounds. This would allow us to fix our OL and our OLbing issues if need be.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:26 PM   #67
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I gotta say i never gave much of a look at Zack Dysert, but he does interest me quite a bit.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:29 PM   #68
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I gotta say i never gave much of a look at Zack Dysert, but he does interest me quite a bit.
Murray, Wilson, Nassib, and Dysert are the guys I like, assuming it's round 2 or after. Absolutely don't like Glennon-- I think Flacco is his best case scenario. Definitely don't like Renfree unless we're taking a 6th round flyer.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:31 PM   #69
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Just threw a bad pick.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:32 PM   #70
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Looked good early, bad interception just yet...

Second round he would be great, otherwise I would take Dysert. In the first we have to hope for Moore, Jordan or Mingo...
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:36 PM   #71
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Being tall doesn't make you a good quarterback, it just makes you tall.

The only quarterbacks in this draft I would be interested in are Matt Barkley and Ryan Nassib. Not sure the team will have the cajones to pull the trigger on another USC product despite the fact that Barkley has a lot more of a track record than Sanchez. Nassib will need to be in the right scheme but has the look of a poor man's Aaron Rodgers.

The tall quarterbacks in this draft class are fairly horrendous.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:37 PM   #72
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Murray, Wilson, Nassib, and Dysert are the guys I like, assuming it's round 2 or after. Absolutely don't like Glennon-- I think Flacco is his best case scenario. Definitely don't like Renfree unless we're taking a 6th round flyer.
Renfree was a late round pick,but if the reported injury suffered in the Bowl Game is correct, he probably goes undrafted.. Renfree is the best pro ready QB in this draft. The guy reads defenses, understands checks and can make all the throws. He just doesn't do it with any flair. He reminds me alot of Matt Shaub(sp) the Texans QB.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:39 PM   #73
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Renfree was a late round pick,but if the reported injury suffered in the Bowl Game is correct, he probably goes undrafted.. Renfree is the best pro ready QB in this draft. The guy reads defenses, understands checks and can make all the throws. He just doesn't do it with any flair. He reminds me alot of Matt Shaub(sp) the Texans QB.
He does not have an NFL arm.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:40 PM   #74
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Being tall doesn't make you a good quarterback, it just makes you tall.[/B]

The only quarterbacks in this draft I would be interested in are Matt Barkley and Ryan Nassib. Not sure the team will have the cajones to pull the trigger on another USC product despite the fact that Barkley has a lot more of a track record than Sanchez. Nassib will need to be in the right scheme but has the look of a poor man's Aaron Rodgers.

The tall quarterbacks in this draft class are fairly horrendous.
See: Flacco, Joe
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:42 PM   #75
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Bottom line. No way in hell a new GM selects any of the QBs available in this draft in the first, or even second, round. It would be tantamount to professional suicide. If someone slips down the draft board in the 3d round or later, maybe, just maybe, they'd take a flyer on him, but no way will they commit 1st or 2nd round money on any of the QB coming out this year. Every single one of them is a project with significant deficiencies in their game.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:23 PM   #76
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He is not good.

No thanks.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:25 PM   #77
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Just threw another bad pick that led to a TD
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:25 PM   #78
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He does not look very impressive today. Hate to judge a guy by one game (one half for that matter) but he knows that the bright lights are on him today and puts up a stinker so far.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:36 PM   #79
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how about

david fales .. san jose state 6'3 220 good accuracy any takers he played ok againdt stanford but wasnt clutch... on de there is like over 5 players in fcs and division II and III that had 17 sacks this year.. alot of olb and de depth there.. including boern and moore.. that yet to play and have both about 13 sacks.......i like the kid from ark-ine bluff
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:45 PM   #80
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or jordan rodgers he is having a good game any takers??
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