Jets ask 49ers to Interview Tom Gamble for GM

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

LOL.

Imagine if he chooses the Jags over us.

Hopefully, he's smart enough to see first hand that a mobile QB also needs a strong and accurate arm (Kaepernick).

So if he chooses the Jags because Tebow is there, maybe he's not the guy we want anyway.

[C Mart]

Per Kim jones. Jets asking for permission to interview Giants Marc Ross

[Eckesg1]

Originally Posted by C Mart

Per Kim jones. Jets asking for permission to interview Giants Marc Ross

He is the Giants director of college scouting.

Definitely seeing a need to hire a football mind.

[Traitor Jay & the Woodies]

Originally Posted by SMC

Ground and pound isn't the problem. Having bad QBs is.

Smith simply couldn't get it done against the Giants' D. He left a lot of yards on the field during the NFCCG. Flacco has never been a great postseason QB. He played well against the Pats, but they shouldve been up big in that game and wasn't.

Heck, the Jets couldve had a dynamic offense even with ground and pound if Sanchez wasn't so horrible.

Ground and pound is the problem because the only teams that commit to it are those that don't trust their QB. If you have a good QB, you don't call it ground and pound, you call it a balanced offense.

I want the new GM to go out and get the best players possible. Then I want the coaches to game plan to match the talent on the team, and then subsequently, the opponents they face each week.

This pre-determined philosophy is ridiculous, especially since the teams that actually win championships (your Giants included) don't subscribe to it.

[sameoldjets]

won't keep rex? not sure how this conclusion can be reached. both teams rely on a very good defense and a ball control offense. the 49ers have better players at this point and so they succeed. might also mean bringing in alex smith.

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

This would be a great hire. I see no way he takes the job with Rex in place.

[PocketJet]

Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

I like the idea of Gamble but if he wants to bring Alex Smith here then we are wasting our time. The guy is not a good QB and we are never winning a super bowl with him. Harbaugh knew this and moved on the first moment he thought he had something better.

Sanchez can't shine Smith's shoes. The draft has no quality QB. Take him on a short leash and draft someone next year hopefully. Have to start somewhere. No QB on our roster now and that won't change in a season (we are not as fortunate as the Redskins).

[King P]

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Officially, the Jets' general manager search has begun.

They asked the 49ers for permission to interview Tom Gamble, their director of player personnel, ESPN Insider Adam Schefter reported.

Gamble is regarded as a hot candidate and should have other opportunities. The Jaguars also requested permission to speak with him about their vacancy, according to the Schefter report.

Gamble has spent 24 years in the NFL, including the last seven with the 49ers. He works closely with GM Trent Baalke, a former Jets scout. Gamble actually was on the Jets' staff under Rich Kotite, serving as a quality-control defensive assistant in 1995 and 1996. Gamble's father, Harry, is the former president of the Eagles.

One NFL insider speculated that Gamble won't have serious interest in the Jets because of the stipulation that Rex Ryan must be retained.

[Eckesg1]

Originally Posted by King P

Despite the fact that Gamble worked with his father?

One NFL insider is not enough to deter me.

Bottom line is that the position is going to be filled by somebody. It will be filled by somebody who we will not know the caliber of until they go on the job.

[SMC]

Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

Ground and pound is the problem because the only teams that commit to it are those that don't trust their QB. If you have a good QB, you don't call it ground and pound, you call it a balanced offense.

I want the new GM to go out and get the best players possible. Then I want the coaches to game plan to match the talent on the team, and then subsequently, the opponents they face each week.

This pre-determined philosophy is ridiculous, especially since the teams that actually win championships (your Giants included) don't subscribe to it.

Last things first, the Giants last year were an anomaly. They had the worst rushing attack in the NFL, but countered that by having a career year from their starting QB.

As to ground and pound, it is effective with a good QB. But as you say, if a team has a good QB, they don't call it ground and pound.

So, in the end, the argument should be between balanced offense versus pass heavy offense. I think a balanced attack can still win in the NFL.

[DDNYjets]

Originally Posted by Eckesg1

Despite the fact that Gamble worked with his father?

That is probably the reason why.

[SMC]

The NFL is a big league. We should never put credence into an annonymous "NFL insider" because it could literally be anyone from any team, an agent, or someone in the league office.

[Traitor Jay & the Woodies]

Originally Posted by SMC

Last things first, the Giants last year were an anomaly. They had the worst rushing attack in the NFL, but countered that by having a career year from their starting QB.

As to ground and pound, it is effective with a good QB. But as you say, if a team has a good QB, they don't call it ground and pound.

So, in the end, the argument should be between balanced offense versus pass heavy offense. I think a balanced attack can still win in the NFL.

The 2010 Packers and the 2009 Saints beg to differ on your 2011 Giants anomaly.

The real bottom line is that you need a very good QB to win a Super Bowl. The better your QB, the better your chances. Period. That's why if the Jets are still a believer in Ground and Pound, it means they do not understand the modern NFL and Jets fans are screwed.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Darth Vader

Interesting that Gamble has history both with the Jets and Buddy Ryan's late 80's eagles.

I think this hire bodes well for Rex Ryan bc of the above, but moreso from the standpoint of similarity bw the niners and rex's vision.

Interesting tidbit. Very interesting.

[chesapeakejet]

Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

The 2010 Packers and the 2009 Saints beg to differ on your 2011 Giants anomaly.

The real bottom line is that you need a very good QB to win a Super Bowl. The better your QB, the better your chances. Period. That's why if the Jets are still a believer in Ground and Pound, it means they do not understand the modern NFL and Jets fans are screwed.

To your point, 18 of the last 20 SB winners had HOF or HOF Caliber QB's on them.

[DDNYjets]

Posted in another thread credit to that poster, no link:

The Jets reached out to ESPN analyst and former Colts president Bill Polian before hiring their general-manager search firm, but were turned down by Polian regarding any interest in replacing Mike Tannenbaum.Unless they pry New York native Tom Gamble away from the 49ers, the Jets are going to have a difficult time selling themselves to noteworthy GM candidates. They would prefer to not let the new GM hire his own coach, and have a documented history of dysfunction up top. It's unclear how serious the talks between Polian and the Jets ever got. He likely denied them quickly. Dec 31 - 3:26 PM

[SMC]

Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

The 2010 Packers and the 2009 Saints beg to differ on your 2011 Giants anomaly.

The real bottom line is that you need a very good QB to win a Super Bowl. The better your QB, the better your chances. Period. That's why if the Jets are still a believer in Ground and Pound, it means they do not understand the modern NFL and Jets fans are screwed.

That is true. Good QB and good pass rush is a key to a title. Unfortunately for the Jets, they had neither. Hopefully the new GM will realize the significance and pursue both.

[Eckesg1]

So apparently the Browns are going to hire a HC before they hire a GM.

And yet nobody is *****ing about them.

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by Eckesg1

So apparently the Browns are going to hire a HC before they hire a GM.

And yet nobody is *****ing about them.

LOL. They're one of the most laughable organizations in the NFL.

To compare us to them says a lot.

[Nike]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Posted in another thread credit to that poster, no link:

The Jets reached out to ESPN analyst and former Colts president Bill Polian before hiring their general-manager search firm, but were turned down by Polian regarding any interest in replacing Mike Tannenbaum.Unless they pry New York native Tom Gamble away from the 49ers, the Jets are going to have a difficult time selling themselves to noteworthy GM candidates. They would prefer to not let the new GM hire his own coach, and have a documented history of dysfunction up top. It's unclear how serious the talks between Polian and the Jets ever got. He likely denied them quickly. Dec 31 - 3:26 PM

most decent qualified gms want to choose the coaching staff in a scenario like this one.

again woody fails to deliver to the fans and the players what they trully deserve.

help wanted: qualified nfl gm
head coach rex ryan already in place
you decide would you take the job?

[crasherino]

Originally Posted by SMC

That is true. Good QB and good pass rush is a key to a title. Unfortunately for the Jets, they had neither. Hopefully the new GM will realize the significance and pursue both.

I don't think that's all that esoteric a goal. Tanny, despite his non-football background, understood that as well. We had two top 6 picks and attempted to fill those needs. Unfortunately, he/they failed spectacularly in that regard. If the Jets hit on either of those picks, it's a completely different team.

For all those saying that this roster is devoid of talent, add a legit pass rusher and a competent+ QB and this a playoff team.