Melvin Ingram had 1 Sack This Season - Page 3 - Jets Insider.com Forums

DaBallhawk · 01-02-2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by detjetsfan

Somehow Coples managed to get almost 6X as many sacks as the incredible Melvin Ingram. And Coples primary job was occupying blockers as a 3-4 D-lineman.

5.5 sacks is hardly something to be proud of as a 1st round pick. and his job was to rush the QB not to tie guys up. he's not even a starter. so lets all calm down, this guy isnt exactly jj watt in the making..everybody likes to think that because he's not as bad as gholston was

Ruby2 · 01-02-2013, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBallhawk

5.5 sacks is hardly something to be proud of as a 1st round pick. and his job was to rush the QB not to tie guys up. he's not even a starter. so lets all calm down, this guy isnt exactly jj watt in the making..everybody likes to think that because he's not as bad as gholston was

So much pfail in this post, I don't even know where to begin.

Its a shame when posters stick by their stubbornness to discredit a player instead of admitting that their assessment of said player may have been askew.

sg3 · 01-02-2013, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBallhawk

5.5 sacks is hardly something to be proud of as a 1st round pick. and his job was to rush the QB not to tie guys up. he's not even a starter. so lets all calm down, this guy isnt exactly jj watt in the making..everybody likes to think that because he's not as bad as gholston was

Even more amazing

One NFL team actually drafted the worst NFL.QB in history as a first rounder a few drafts ago...the Broncos I think

Now there is something not to be proud of doing

McGinley · 01-02-2013, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sg3

Even more amazing

One NFL team actually drafted the worst NFL.QB in history as a first rounder a few drafts ago...the Broncos I think

Now there is something not to be proud of doing

I was just thinking the same thing, lol.

DBarrett=all<3 · 01-02-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBallhawk

5.5 sacks is hardly something to be proud of as a 1st round pick. and his job was to rush the QB not to tie guys up. he's not even a starter. so lets all calm down, this guy isnt exactly jj watt in the making..everybody likes to think that because he's not as bad as gholston was

For the record, Watt had 5.5 sacks in his rookie season as well -- same as Coples.

revischrist · 01-02-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBallhawk

5.5 sacks is hardly something to be proud of as a 1st round pick. and his job was to rush the QB not to tie guys up. he's not even a starter. so lets all calm down, this guy isnt exactly jj watt in the making..everybody likes to think that because he's not as bad as gholston was

lol, first year watching football?

Scoop24 · 01-02-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBallhawk

5.5 sacks is hardly something to be proud of as a 1st round pick. and his job was to rush the QB not to tie guys up. he's not even a starter. so lets all calm down, this guy isnt exactly jj watt in the making..everybody likes to think that because he's not as bad as gholston was

From a stats standpoint they had similar rookie years .. Not saying Coples is gonna have 20 sacks next year. But he is on the right track

Dreamers · 01-02-2013, 09:42 AM

Coples was only off my list because I never thought he would fall out of the top 5. I was on the Bruce Irvin bandwagon. I didn't like Jone. Ingram would have been an OK pick but he wasn't a beast like Coples. As far as DROY Barron was much better then I gave him credit for so I have to say him. The only pick I think we botched was Davis. He looks OK but I still can't believe we didn't take Massie. I would have also passed on Ganaway for Winn. Honestly I can't believe Winn fell that far I had him with a 2-3 round grade.

PMarsico9 · 01-02-2013, 09:45 AM

And this is why I cringe when people say "YOU WOULD TRADE UP FOR A DE IF YOU HAD THE FIRST PICK NEXT YEAR???!!!!" regarding JaDaveon Clowney.

Clowney is so damned good, demanding triple and double teams nearly every play, that Ingram was a first rounder SIMPLY BY PLAYING NEXT TO A FRESHMAN CLOWNEY.

Joe W. Namath · 01-02-2013, 09:54 AM

Why is there a 3 page thread on a san diego charger player?

King P · 01-02-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

Why is there a 3 page thread on a san diego charger player?

Because last year most Jet fans were screaming for them to draft Ingram, and most were pissed when they chose Coples instead. Only for Coples to severely outplay Ingram.

This is basically an "eat crow" thread.

Joe W. Namath · 01-02-2013, 10:04 AM

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Because last year most Jet fans were screaming for them to draft Ingram, and most were pissed when they chose Coples instead. Only for Coples to severely outplay Ingram.

This is basically an "eat crow" thread.

Ok. Who cares.

revischrist · 01-02-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PMarsico9

And this is why I cringe when people say "YOU WOULD TRADE UP FOR A DE IF YOU HAD THE FIRST PICK NEXT YEAR???!!!!" regarding JaDaveon Clowney.

Clowney is so damned good, demanding triple and double teams nearly every play, that Ingram was a first rounder SIMPLY BY PLAYING NEXT TO A FRESHMAN CLOWNEY.

Well, i think Ingram would have been a very good college player without the presence of Clowney. But yeah, Clowney is a once in a lifetime DE. I have been saying since before the Jets drafted Coples that he would be a stud, but I would trade 2 Coples to get 1 Clowney.

King P · 01-02-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

Ok. Who cares.

Apparantly enough people care since this thread is 3 pages long already.

Beerfish · 01-02-2013, 10:11 AM

One reason people wanted to draft Ingram? He's more of an olb prospect than Coples. The Jets still have no one at olb in a system that relies on the position heavily. Coples looked very good and deserved more playing time but if they are going to stick him at 3-4 DE with occasional 4-3 DE/Dt then his total talents are being lessened. (The hazards of the hybrid defense).

The Jets must draft one or more likely two olbs this year. One huge fail of this front office is ignoring a looming need area until it is situation critical (See safety last year).

PMarsico9 · 01-02-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

Well, i think Ingram would have been a very good college player without the presence of Clowney. But yeah, Clowney is a once in a lifetime DE. I have been saying since before the Jets drafted Coples that he would be a stud, but I would trade 2 Coples to get 1 Clowney.

4-3 Looks
LE: Clowney,
Nose: Ellis
DT: Wilkerson
RE: Coples

3-4 Looks:
LE: Wilkerson
DT: Ellis
RE: Coples
LOLB: Clowney

^ Top 3 defensive line for the next 10 years ^

If this could happen then I would be loving Rex Ryan as our head coach for the next few years. Even if the team itself was awful (which it probably will be until QB gets ironed out,) watching that Defensive line would be worth the price of my tickets.

Mainejet · 01-02-2013, 10:19 AM

Did Coples pass Jones in the sack category?

Joe W. Namath · 01-02-2013, 10:20 AM

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Apparantly enough people care since this thread is 3 pages long already.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA. I cant argue with that.

sec.101row23 · 01-02-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by detjetsfan

Still mad we passed him up for Quinton Coples?

To be fair weren't you clamoring to sign Mario Williams to a big contract?

jetsfan1983 · 01-02-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

Ok. Who cares.

It absolutely matters...

Some people spout stuff here like it's a given, and don't want to see or even remember when they were wrong.

I preferred Ingram over Coples because I wasn't sure Coples had the constant effort level. It's clear that Coples has special pass rush abilities. To put up over 5 sacks in your rookie year despite not playing a ton of snaps is pretty impressive.

That said, I think Ingram will put it together. WIll be absolutely shocked if he doesn't turn into a 10 sack guy.

01-02-2013, 09:42 AM	#48
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,395	Coples was only off my list because I never thought he would fall out of the top 5. I was on the Bruce Irvin bandwagon. I didn't like Jone. Ingram would have been an OK pick but he wasn't a beast like Coples. As far as DROY Barron was much better then I gave him credit for so I have to say him. The only pick I think we botched was Davis. He looks OK but I still can't believe we didn't take Massie. I would have also passed on Ganaway for Winn. Honestly I can't believe Winn fell that far I had him with a 2-3 round grade.

01-02-2013, 09:45 AM	#49
PMarsico9 This pit has no bottom All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,851	And this is why I cringe when people say "YOU WOULD TRADE UP FOR A DE IF YOU HAD THE FIRST PICK NEXT YEAR???!!!!" regarding JaDaveon Clowney. Clowney is so damned good, demanding triple and double teams nearly every play, that Ingram was a first rounder SIMPLY BY PLAYING NEXT TO A FRESHMAN CLOWNEY.

01-02-2013, 09:54 AM	#50
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,814	Why is there a 3 page thread on a san diego charger player?

01-02-2013, 10:11 AM	#55
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,066	One reason people wanted to draft Ingram? He's more of an olb prospect than Coples. The Jets still have no one at olb in a system that relies on the position heavily. Coples looked very good and deserved more playing time but if they are going to stick him at 3-4 DE with occasional 4-3 DE/Dt then his total talents are being lessened. (The hazards of the hybrid defense). The Jets must draft one or more likely two olbs this year. One huge fail of this front office is ignoring a looming need area until it is situation critical (See safety last year).

01-02-2013, 10:19 AM	#57
Mainejet impatiently waiting for the Jets to win the SB Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11,833	Did Coples pass Jones in the sack category?