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SouthTown · 01-02-2013, 01:31 PM

Mike is basically saying:

-Tanny basically the fall guy, was not all his fault
-Rex made or influenced MANY personnel decisions including: Tebow, Sanchez etc.
-Sanchez has been terribly mishandled and mistreated
-"Leaks" by Pettine may very well have been orchestrated by Rex

Warfish · 01-02-2013, 01:34 PM

The Weapons of Mass Deflection continue, ignoring how core Mark Sanchez's failings was in the Jets downfall.

It's funny who folks will and won't make excuses for and who they won't. Sanchez can be the worst QB in the league over a 4-year span, on the field, trowing INT's, dropping fumbles, gbeing inaccurate as hell, gving the other team points, and 3-and-outing.....and somehow it's a 4 year perenial top 10 Defenses fault we're bad?

Rex, apparently, is an evil mastermind G.W. Bushing his GM and Staff so he can....what, Coach one more year as a fan-hated lame duck with Sanchez at QB again? And of course, he is personally responsible for every single thing, the two ****ty O-Co's (one of whom was forced on him), the absolute loser of Sanchez, the injuries to both our best players, etc, etc, etc.

I can't stomach the idea that this team may seriously go into 2013 with mark Sanchez as the QB again, and with a much-weakened Defense from firing Rex and selling off his pieces (the leading J.I. Strip plan it appears). So we can be 30th on O and D and call it "rebuilding", joy.

We would be competative with an average producing QB who didn't require elite everythingele around him. But no....

Carlton · 01-02-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

The Weapons of Mass Deflection continue, ignoring how core Mark Sanchez's failings was in the Jets downfall.

It's funny who folks will and won't make excuses for and who they won't. Sanchez can be the worst QB in the league over a 4-year span, on the field, trowing INT's, dropping fumbles, gbeing inaccurate as hell, gving the other team points, and 3-and-outing.....and somehow it's a 4 year perenial top 10 Defenses fault we're bad?

Rex, apparently, is an evil mastermind G.W. Bushing his GM and Staff so he can....what, Coach one more year as a fan-hated lame duck with Sanchez at QB again? And of course, he is personally responsible for every single thing, the two ****ty O-Co's (one of whom was forced on him), the absolute loser of Sanchez, the injuries to both our best players, etc, etc, etc.

I can't stomach the idea that this team may seriously go into 2013 with mark Sanchez as the QB again, and with a much-weakened Defense from firing Rex and selling off his pieces (the leading J.I. Strip plan it appears). So we can be 30th on O and D and call it "rebuilding", joy.

We would be competative with an average producing QB who didn't require elite everythingele around him. But no....

Yes yes yes yes and yes. Spot on.

DDNYjets · 01-02-2013, 01:38 PM

Some of his best Jets analysis ever. Very insightful. I am hoping he hits the mother load and gets Tanny on.

jetfan51 · 01-02-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthTown

Mike is basically saying:

-Tanny basically the fall guy, was not all his fault
-Rex made or influenced MANY personnel decisions including: Tebow, Sanchez etc.
-Sanchez has been terribly mishandled and mistreated
-"Leaks" by Pettine may very well have been orchestrated by Rex

what did he expect...everyone in that building to get a raise??? Woody could have cleaned house.. sure.. but not many coaches can take a 1st and 2nd year QB (with limitations) and win on road in playoffs.....

Sanchez was completely over-valued... Mishandled perhaps.. Mistreated? please..... How is he mistreated?

Traitor Jay & the Woodies · 01-02-2013, 01:40 PM

Just switched over to YES.

Erica Herskowitz is a poor man's Rachel Nichols. Not terrible. Definite upgrade over Minko.

DDNYjets · 01-02-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

Just switched over to YES.

Erica Herskowitz is a poor man's Rachel Nichols. Not terrible. Definite upgrade over Minko.

POTD.

True.

SAR I · 01-02-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Some of his best Jets analysis ever. Very insightful. I am hoping he hits the mother load and gets Tanny on.

What people like to forget about Francesa in these parts is that he knows everyone and everything. He's been doing this before Adam Schecter was born, when Adam Schein and Jeremy Schapp were in diapers.

Some don't like his delivery (I, of course, love it) but his content is always 100% accurate. He's got sources that are impeccable and a great feel for what the common fan thinks.

SAR I

SAR I · 01-02-2013, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warfish

The Weapons of Mass Deflection continue, ignoring how core Mark Sanchez's failings was in the Jets downfall.

It's funny who folks will and won't make excuses for and who they won't. Sanchez can be the worst QB in the league over a 4-year span, on the field, trowing INT's, dropping fumbles, gbeing inaccurate as hell, gving the other team points, and 3-and-outing.....and somehow it's a 4 year perenial top 10 Defenses fault we're bad?

Rex, apparently, is an evil mastermind G.W. Bushing his GM and Staff so he can....what, Coach one more year as a fan-hated lame duck with Sanchez at QB again? And of course, he is personally responsible for every single thing, the two ****ty O-Co's (one of whom was forced on him), the absolute loser of Sanchez, the injuries to both our best players, etc, etc, etc.

I can't stomach the idea that this team may seriously go into 2013 with mark Sanchez as the QB again, and with a much-weakened Defense from firing Rex and selling off his pieces (the leading J.I. Strip plan it appears). So we can be 30th on O and D and call it "rebuilding", joy.

We would be competative with an average producing QB who didn't require elite everythingele around him. But no....

The team was built to win on Defense and Ground & Pound.

Mark Sanchez gave the Jets a lead in New England with 90 seconds left.

Mark Sanchez gave the Jets a lead in Tennessee in the 3rd quarter.

Mark Sanchez didn't allow the Dolphins backup QB to have a career day.

If the defense shows up in those 3 games, the Jets are a playoff team despite their awful QB. You can spin this any way you want, but the Jets were not built to win in the air. The personnel on that side of the ball is brutal, anyone can see that. Ground & Pound, dead. Defense, dead. Jets, therefore dead.

SAR I

32green · 01-02-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

Erica Herskowitz is a poor man's Rachel Nichols. Not terrible. Definite upgrade over Minko.

I keep staring at her hoping she'll get hotter, but she never does. I try to convince myself.

Better than Mink by a long shot though.

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Nike · 01-02-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SAR I

The team was built to win on Defense and Ground & Pound.

Mark Sanchez gave the Jets a lead in New England with 90 seconds left.

Mark Sanchez gave the Jets a lead in Tennessee in the 3rd quarter.

Mark Sanchez didn't allow the Dolphins backup QB to have a career day.

If the defense shows up in those 3 games, the Jets are a playoff team despite their awful QB. You can spin this any way you want, but the Jets were not built to win in the air. The personnel on that side of the ball is brutal, anyone can see that. Ground & Pound, dead. Defense, dead. Jets, therefore dead.

SAR I

mark sanchez is fully responsible for the 10 losses this season.

51 turnovers led the nfl.

mike is mentioning bill cowher!!!!!!!!!!!

Ruby2 · 01-02-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nike

mark sanchez is fully responsible for the 10 losses this season.

51 turnovers led the nfl.

mike is mentioning bill cowher!!!!!!!!!!!

Cowher's not coming here.

Nike · 01-02-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruby2

Cowher's not coming here.

never say never.

full control. thats what bill cowher wants he may get it from woody.

SAR I · 01-02-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nike

mark sanchez is fully responsible for the 10 losses this season.

51 turnovers led the nfl.

Maybe so.

But the New England, Miami, and Tennessee games were all wins turned into losses by the defense.

And had we won those three games, perhaps the back-to-back 0-3 finishes never happen and we beat the likes of San Diego and Buffalo too. How quickly a little defense goes to turn 6-10 into 11-5.

We're built to win on defense. You start there.

SAR I

SAR I · 01-02-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nike

mike is mentioning bill cowher!!!!!!!!!!!

This morning on Boomer & Carton, Carton was begging for Cowher (who wouldn't) and Esiason did not spit out his usual "I know Bill and he's not going to coach again" line.

Hmm. Looks like I'm going to all 10 Jets home games next season after all.

SAR I

Ruby2 · 01-02-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nike

never say never.

full control. thats what bill cowher wants he may get it from woody.

Mike said that during Rex's first year when they were 7-7 he heard "whispers" that there may be some interest.

I am not banking on that little tidbit.

SouthTown · 01-02-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SAR I

What people like to forget about Francesa in these parts is that he knows everyone and everything. He's been doing this before Adam Schecter was born, when Adam Schein and Jeremy Schapp were in diapers.

Some don't like his delivery (I, of course, love it) but his content is always 100% accurate. He's got sources that are impeccable and a great feel for what the common fan thinks.

SAR I

100% agree, that's why I have never written him off. He is in the know, regardless of what Jets fans think.

SAR I · 01-02-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthTown

100% agree, that's why I have never written him off. He is in the know, regardless of what Jets fans think.

SouthTown for mod.

SAR I

Borgoguy · 01-02-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Some of his best Jets analysis ever. Very insightful. I am hoping he hits the mother load and gets Tanny on.

Dead on.

Here's a link for those who want to listen:

http://tunein.com/radio/WFAN-Sports-Radio-660-s28671/

Traitor Jay & the Woodies · 01-02-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 32green

I keep staring at her hoping she'll get hotter, but she never does. I try to convince myself.

Better than Mink by a long shot though.

-

That's the problem. Don't stare. Squint.

See?

01-02-2013, 01:34 PM	#22
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	The Weapons of Mass Deflection continue, ignoring how core Mark Sanchez's failings was in the Jets downfall. It's funny who folks will and won't make excuses for and who they won't. Sanchez can be the worst QB in the league over a 4-year span, on the field, trowing INT's, dropping fumbles, gbeing inaccurate as hell, gving the other team points, and 3-and-outing.....and somehow it's a 4 year perenial top 10 Defenses fault we're bad? Rex, apparently, is an evil mastermind G.W. Bushing his GM and Staff so he can....what, Coach one more year as a fan-hated lame duck with Sanchez at QB again? And of course, he is personally responsible for every single thing, the two ***ty O-Co's (one of whom was forced on him), the absolute loser of Sanchez, the injuries to both our best players, etc, etc, etc. I can't stomach the idea that this team may seriously go into 2013 with mark Sanchez as the QB again, and with a much-weakened Defense from firing Rex and selling off his pieces (the leading J.I. Strip plan it appears). So we can be 30th on O and D and call it "rebuilding", joy. We would be competative with an average producing QB who didn't require elite everythingele around him. But no.... Last edited by Warfish; 01-02-2013 at 01:36 PM.*

01-02-2013, 01:31 PM	#21
SouthTown Veteran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,073	Mike is basically saying: -Tanny basically the fall guy, was not all his fault -Rex made or influenced MANY personnel decisions including: Tebow, Sanchez etc. -Sanchez has been terribly mishandled and mistreated -"Leaks" by Pettine may very well have been orchestrated by Rex

01-02-2013, 01:38 PM	#24
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,217	Some of his best Jets analysis ever. Very insightful. I am hoping he hits the mother load and gets Tanny on.

01-02-2013, 01:40 PM	#26
Traitor Jay & the Woodies is down with the cause. Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: The Eternal Blackness of My Mind Posts: 3,703	Just switched over to YES. Erica Herskowitz is a poor man's Rachel Nichols. Not terrible. Definite upgrade over Minko.