NYJ assistant GM Scott Cohen gaining support - Page 4 - Jets Insider.com Forums

nyahay bus · 01-08-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Why would these guys want to put the Jets on their resume. They will be working with one hand tied behind their back b.c of Rex. And if things don't work and they get fired, they might never get another shot. It is better for most of these candidates to wait for a better opportunity.

this is basically what I said in the press conference thread. Why put your professional reputation on the line by signing on with a dysfunctional organization like the Jets? Wait for something better.

fidelioion · 01-08-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

What does it matter? There's going to be the same backlash if you hire the guy immediately as if you hire the guy late.

That PR move makes no sense because the guy is still getting hired. You see the reaction around here? It wouldn't have changed if Woody hired right off the bat.

Of course it matters. You could at least make the claim, "We did a thorough search and found that this was the best guy for our franchise" blah, blah, blah..

if you don't do that you'll get the inevitable..

"The Jets didn't even test the market to see what was out there" non-sense..

NYJ37/12 · 01-08-2013, 02:51 PM

not sure what I will do if Cohen is the guy

McGinley · 01-08-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

What does it matter? There's going to be the same backlash if you hire the guy immediately as if you hire the guy late.

That PR move makes no sense because the guy is still getting hired. You see the reaction around here? It wouldn't have changed if Woody hired right off the bat.

It would in the sense that it gives off the idea that you took your time and really put in an honest search instead of just handing the job to Cohen on a whim.

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 01-08-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanchez 3:16

can we stop overreacting to tweets like they are set in stone permanent-decisions?

A few days ago Gamble was our GM according to twitter. Now? not so much.

All this means is Cohen was probably seen walking out of an office after being interviewed. Nothing more.

Continue on with your, bahhhh OMG only the JETZ.

Yes, but was he seen

, or

?

Eckesg1 · 01-08-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

It would in the sense that it gives off the idea that you took your time and really put in an honest search instead of just handing the job to Cohen on a whim.

Not if nobody buys it. People on here aren't buying it and I don't think that the media will buy it.

chrisjets23 · 01-08-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RMJK

Word is Woody wanted Tebow to sell PSLs. Tanny wanted Sparano.

How was Rex running the show when he had was forced to work with these guys. It is not knowable at this point what's really going on until someone writes a book about it after they retire.

It's why the Jets are such a dysfunctional franchise. The HC picks the personnel, the GM picks the HC's assistants and the owner steps in when he wants a player to sell PSLs.

McGinley · 01-08-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nyahay bus

this is basically what I said in the press conference thread. Why put your professional reputation on the line by signing on with a dysfunctional organization like the Jets? Wait for something better.

True, but some of these guys are interviewing for the Jags and Chargers as well. Not exactly franchises to be proud of.

crasherino · 01-08-2013, 02:56 PM

And I was just saying to myself the other day that this process was going so orderly. They targeted their guy, he canceled with other teams he seemed to be a lock. And now....not quite as straightforward.

Ah well, that's the way things go with this franchise. I'm not too worked up about this one way or another. The appearance of hiring an internal guy doesn't look great from a PR perspective, but I have honestly no idea whether Gamble, Caldwell, Ross or Cohen is the right choice.

I do know that even if their first choice (whether its Gamble or Caldwell) doesn't work out, there are enough highly respected candidates that could be looked at that if they do end up with Cohen, its on account of something legitimate.

DDNYjets · 01-08-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

True, but some of these guys are interviewing for the Jags and Chargers as well. Not exactly franchises to be proud of.

True.

But with those teams they will sink or swim based on their own decisions. With the Jets they will be married to Rex.

Sourceworx · 01-08-2013, 02:58 PM

While I wouldn't put it past this organization to make this move, we've seen this movie before. I remember quite well in 2009 after Mangini was fired, that a report came out that the Jets were strongly considering giving the job to Brian Schottenheimer after he supposedly blew them away in his interview.

Rex was hired a few days later.

McGinley · 01-08-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

True.

But with those teams they will sink or swim based on their own decisions. With the Jets they will be married to Rex.

Good point.

**** my life.

Eckesg1 · 01-08-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

True.

But with those teams they will sink or swim based on their own decisions. With the Jets they will be married to Rex.

Depends on the GM's contract.

If the Jets completely fall apart and win only 3 or 4 games, Woody is going to have to fire Rex.

tfine350z · 01-08-2013, 03:00 PM

Cant wait till we draft a kicker in the second round again

McGinley · 01-08-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tfine350z

Cant wait till we draft a kicker in the second round again

J-A-G-S! JAGS, JAGS, JAGS!

boxman · 01-08-2013, 03:02 PM

If after all this we just end up hiring in-house... well, I wouldn't even know what to say. I was alright with keeping Rex for next year if we had a firm, competent GM in place to call the shots. But if Rex runs the whole show, then Woody is a bigger fool than I thought.

Eckesg1 · 01-08-2013, 03:03 PM

And of course there is this small possibility:

What if Scott Cohen doesn't want to be there either?

GenoT · 01-08-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Funny thing is that after last year's draft I got killed here for saying that Rex is running the franchise. Today was proof. He has been running it since the day he was hired.

The decisions that hamstrung this franchise were clearly not Rex's doing. It was not his decision to hire Sparano. It was not his decision to extend Sanchez's contract. It was not his decision to draft a project wide receiver. It was not his decision to let Edwards sign somewhere else. It was not his decision to give all that guaranteed money to holmes

Eckesg1 · 01-08-2013, 03:09 PM

Kimberley A. Martin ‏@KMart_LI
Rex on his role in GM search: "My involvement will be late in the process....it's not there yet." #nyj #jets

McGinley · 01-08-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

Kimberley A. Martin ‏@KMart_LI
Rex on his role in GM search: "My involvement will be late in the process....it's not there yet." #nyj #jets

Could that be interpreted as, "I have the final say"?

01-08-2013, 02:51 PM	#63
NYJ37/12 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,665	not sure what I will do if Cohen is the guy

01-08-2013, 02:56 PM	#69
crasherino Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 16,827	And I was just saying to myself the other day that this process was going so orderly. They targeted their guy, he canceled with other teams he seemed to be a lock. And now....not quite as straightforward. Ah well, that's the way things go with this franchise. I'm not too worked up about this one way or another. The appearance of hiring an internal guy doesn't look great from a PR perspective, but I have honestly no idea whether Gamble, Caldwell, Ross or Cohen is the right choice. I do know that even if their first choice (whether its Gamble or Caldwell) doesn't work out, there are enough highly respected candidates that could be looked at that if they do end up with Cohen, its on account of something legitimate.

01-08-2013, 02:58 PM	#71
Sourceworx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 13,431	While I wouldn't put it past this organization to make this move, we've seen this movie before. I remember quite well in 2009 after Mangini was fired, that a report came out that the Jets were strongly considering giving the job to Brian Schottenheimer after he supposedly blew them away in his interview. Rex was hired a few days later.

01-08-2013, 03:00 PM	#74
tfine350z looking for a new avatar Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,123	Cant wait till we draft a kicker in the second round again

01-08-2013, 03:02 PM	#76
boxman GENO! Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 856	If after all this we just end up hiring in-house... well, I wouldn't even know what to say. I was alright with keeping Rex for next year if we had a firm, competent GM in place to call the shots. But if Rex runs the whole show, then Woody is a bigger fool than I thought.

01-08-2013, 03:03 PM	#77
Eckesg1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,352	And of course there is this small possibility: What if Scott Cohen doesn't want to be there either?

01-08-2013, 03:09 PM	#79
Eckesg1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,352	Kimberley A. Martin ‏@KMart_LI Rex on his role in GM search: "My involvement will be late in the process....it's not there yet." #nyj #jets