NYJ assistant GM Scott Cohen gaining support - Page 7 - Jets Insider.com Forums

sec318 · 01-08-2013, 04:28 PM

After watching the presser it means woody wants Rex to control everything and Cohen will be a puppet.

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Originally Posted by fidelioion

If this is the case this whole thing was a dog and pony show acting as if they were testing the waters even though they knew this was the guy the entire time.

Gamble, Korn/Ferry, going to Georgia etc...

I would be VERY, VERY upset if this were the case.

jetsfan1983 · 01-08-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaJets

When Cohen was the director of pro personnel for the Eagles, they went to 3 NFC champ games and a Super Bowl. Just because he was #2 behind Tanny doesn't mean he has Tanny's beliefs, etc. Cohen is still a talent evaluator.

Deserves to be quoted again... Even though I see us going outside of our organization to hire the next GM.

augustiniak · 01-08-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

Deserves to be quoted again... Even though I see us going outside of our organization to hire the next GM.

does anyone know when he joined the jets, and how long he was with phily and if he was with teams prior to phily?

ryan10 · 01-08-2013, 04:33 PM

from 2008

Although all the information isn’t out yet, we do know that Cohen will be helping Tannenbaum with “day to day operations of the team.” From looking at his bio on the Eagles site (you have to use the Google cached version as they’ve already taken down Cohen’s bio) you can get a sense of what his skill set is, and how he’ll be used by the Jets.

Scott Cohen works closely with general manager Tom Heckert in assessing players on NFL rosters for potential free agents and trades, players available during the season, as well as players in other pro leagues (Arena League and CFL). He also provides advance scouting reports for most NFC opponents in addition to managing the pro scouting department and handling player tryouts.

With his background in college scouting, Cohen has been involved each year in evaluating players for the draft as well as being involved in draft day trades, projecting other team’s needs and selections. He has also negotiated contracts for undrafted and future free agents.
Cohen, 39, has spent the past seven seasons as Philadelphia’s director of pro personnel, and worked for Jacksonville and Washington before that. In terms of whether this would cause ruffled feathers from others already in the organization like Terry Bradway or Joey Clickscales, the source has told reporters that Bradway & Clinkscales are already in the process of getting new contracts and titles with the team.

This is a good addition as the Eagles are a well-run organization so the fact that Cohen works so closely with Heckert is solid. Also, hearing that Clinkscales is getting a new contract is good news.

I always am afraid that should someone like Clinkscales leave, that the organization might be in trouble, so adding another staffer to take some of the duties off of Tannenbaum, as well as distribute more knowledge in the organization is a wise thing to do should that scenario play out. Allowing Tannenbaum more time to work on the strategy of things with Mangini is important, and adding Cohen will allow ‘the new guy’ to take over more of those day to day operations.

feel a bit better after reading this...

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Jet Life · 01-08-2013, 04:33 PM

@AlbertBreer: About to head to Houston. Can say this on Atlanta's Dave Caldwell -- Both Jags and Jets are confident that they can land him.

Some hope...

adpz · 01-08-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaJets

When Cohen was the director of pro personnel for the Eagles, they went to 3 NFC champ games and a Super Bowl. Just because he was #2 behind Tanny doesn't mean he has Tanny's beliefs, etc. Cohen is still a talent evaluator.

Well, it's a pretty persuasive position for some pretty good teams. Lacks the wow factor, but I'm at least pleased to see that this guy has some real track record.

Sanchez 3:16 · 01-08-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaJets

When Cohen was the director of pro personnel for the Eagles, they went to 3 NFC champ games and a Super Bowl. Just because he was #2 behind Tanny doesn't mean he has Tanny's beliefs, etc. Cohen is still a talent evaluator.

Thank you.

Seems to me that Cohen has a far deeper track record than Gamble and Caldwell based on this alone.

Funny, if the people btching about the move would take the two seconds to read up about him instead of complaining, you wouldn't have so many complaints after all.

Traitor Jay & the Woodies · 01-08-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shuler82

Cohen could be great, but he'll never be supported here. He's viewed as a Tannenbaum protege and was part of the last regime. The fans and the media want change, and Cohen is just too close to everything to provide that.

Why would it be great? Why would you fire Tannenbaum if you were just going to replace him with his protege? -- the guy that was with him for all of the decisions that resulted in the GM being dismissed?

Forget the fans and the media - isn't common sense to go in a new direction if that is why you fired the guy in the first place?

Eckesg1 · 01-08-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanchez 3:16

Thank you.

Seems to me that Cohen has a far deeper track record than Gamble and Caldwell based on this alone.

Funny, if the people btching about the move would take the two seconds to read up about him instead of complaining, you wouldn't have so many complaints after all.

Doesn't matter what he was. All everybody will see is "Rex puppet"

freestater · 01-08-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JetPotato

you bastid!!!

chesapeakejet · 01-08-2013, 04:35 PM

I SAY WE GO TO W 57TH AND STORM THE OFFICES! WHO'S WITH ME!

kmsurfs2000 · 01-08-2013, 04:36 PM

so u fire tanny and now going to let his admin run the team lol

what a ****ing joke

rex wants to buy the groceries and make the meal but rex does not even know what the kitchen looks like

norm428 · 01-08-2013, 04:36 PM

I'll admit I don't know jacksh!t about any of these GM candidates other than what I have read online, but with 7 open GM spots, no one has asked for permission to interview Cohen - not 1 team! I may not be the brightest guy in this forum, but something is REALLY wrong here (if any of this is actually true)!!!

Batmans A Scientist · 01-08-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by augustiniak

is that his background?

http://www.newyorkjets.com/ms/media-...en,-Scott.html

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Prior to joining the Jets, he spent seven seasons with the Philadelphia Eagles as the director of pro personnel, where he evaluated players on NFL rosters for traders and as potential acquisitions as free agents, as well as reviewed players in other pro leagues. Cohen also provided advanced scouting reports in addition to managing the pro scouting department and handling player tryouts. While with the Eagles he was involved each year in evaluating players for the draft as well as draft-day trades and projecting other team's needs and selections.

Hard to tell. It seems like he was somewhat removed from scouting the key players and dealt with fringe players.

ryan10 · 01-08-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by norm428

I'll admit I don't know jacksh!t about any of these GM candidates other than what I have read online, but with 7 open GM spots, no one has asked for permission to interview Cohen - not 1 team! I may not be the brightest guy in this forum, but something is REALLY wrong here (if any of this is actually true)!!!

NO WAIT!!!!! THE BROWNS MIGHT!!!! OH LORD!!!

Warfish · 01-08-2013, 04:42 PM

Said it in another thread, but is equally apt here:

It's funny, in a sad way.

I spend all morning promoting the "have faith" position.

Then I hear we're likely to lose out on both our #1 and #2 preference for GM, and are now favoring an internal lackey of Tannenbaum and Bradway.

How horribly dissapointing such an outcome would be.

Maury77 · 01-08-2013, 04:42 PM

Can't we just go back to Gamble? Did he fart during the interview?

THE_SOOTHSAYER · 01-08-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by augustiniak

if they pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to a search firm and then hire the guy down the hall, i think i'm done.

Good Lord..... if the pundits didn't have enough to crucify the team about, now this. Spend $200k to retain a search firm to hire the fired GM's lackey.

Can't make this up.

I pray this doesn't happen.

norm428 · 01-08-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

Said it in another thread, but is equally apt here:

It's funny, in a sad way.

I spend all morning promoting the "have faith" position.

Then I hear we're likely to lose out on both our #1 and #2 preference for GM, and are now favoring an internal lackey of Tannenbaum and Bradway.

How horribly dissapointing such an outcome would be.

+ a gazillion!!!

BamaJets · 01-08-2013, 04:47 PM

Everyone here realizes the money Woody spends on the search firm doesn't count against the Jets cap, right? Woody hired the search firm to help him make the right choice. Maybe Cohen was ranked third by the search group. Maybe he was first. We don't know! Does it matter if Woody spent money on a search firm and they recommend Cohen? IT'S HIS MONEY!!!

And if it is Cohen, and he comes highly recommended by this proven search firm, isn't that a good thing? Who cares if Woody spent his money on this?

01-08-2013, 04:33 PM	#124
ryan10 fan since 1978-root for the jersey!!!! 4get everything else!! All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,555	from 2008 Although all the information isn’t out yet, we do know that Cohen will be helping Tannenbaum with “day to day operations of the team.” From looking at his bio on the Eagles site (you have to use the Google cached version as they’ve already taken down Cohen’s bio) you can get a sense of what his skill set is, and how he’ll be used by the Jets. Scott Cohen works closely with general manager Tom Heckert in assessing players on NFL rosters for potential free agents and trades, players available during the season, as well as players in other pro leagues (Arena League and CFL). He also provides advance scouting reports for most NFC opponents in addition to managing the pro scouting department and handling player tryouts. With his background in college scouting, Cohen has been involved each year in evaluating players for the draft as well as being involved in draft day trades, projecting other team’s needs and selections. He has also negotiated contracts for undrafted and future free agents. Cohen, 39, has spent the past seven seasons as Philadelphia’s director of pro personnel, and worked for Jacksonville and Washington before that. In terms of whether this would cause ruffled feathers from others already in the organization like Terry Bradway or Joey Clickscales, the source has told reporters that Bradway & Clinkscales are already in the process of getting new contracts and titles with the team. This is a good addition as the Eagles are a well-run organization so the fact that Cohen works so closely with Heckert is solid. Also, hearing that Clinkscales is getting a new contract is good news. I always am afraid that should someone like Clinkscales leave, that the organization might be in trouble, so adding another staffer to take some of the duties off of Tannenbaum, as well as distribute more knowledge in the organization is a wise thing to do should that scenario play out. Allowing Tannenbaum more time to work on the strategy of things with Mangini is important, and adding Cohen will allow ‘the new guy’ to take over more of those day to day operations. feel a bit better after reading this... We Recommend Jets Take on Another Reclamation Project in Safety Jaiquawn Jarrett The Rundown: What’s Next for Jets Linebackers? Quinton Coples Makes Kiper’s All-Rookie Team Jets Bringing in Ruffin for a Workout From

01-08-2013, 04:33 PM	#125
Jet Life Veteran Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT Posts: 1,817	@AlbertBreer: About to head to Houston. Can say this on Atlanta's Dave Caldwell -- Both Jags and Jets are confident that they can land him. Some hope...

01-08-2013, 04:35 PM	#131
chesapeakejet is a geek who loves football boardgames. Schluberator & Gadfly ® Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 24,502	I SAY WE GO TO W 57TH AND STORM THE OFFICES! WHO'S WITH ME!

01-08-2013, 04:36 PM	#132
kmsurfs2000 Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 118	so u fire tanny and now going to let his admin run the team lol what a ****ing joke rex wants to buy the groceries and make the meal but rex does not even know what the kitchen looks like

01-08-2013, 04:36 PM	#133
norm428 The "Butt-er" End! Veteran Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hauppauge, New York Posts: 1,509	I'll admit I don't know jacksh!t about any of these GM candidates other than what I have read online, but with 7 open GM spots, no one has asked for permission to interview Cohen - not 1 team! I may not be the brightest guy in this forum, but something is REALLY wrong here (if any of this is actually true)!!!

01-08-2013, 04:42 PM	#136
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	Said it in another thread, but is equally apt here: It's funny, in a sad way. I spend all morning promoting the "have faith" position. Then I hear we're likely to lose out on both our #1 and #2 preference for GM, and are now favoring an internal lackey of Tannenbaum and Bradway. How horribly dissapointing such an outcome would be.

01-08-2013, 04:42 PM	#137
Maury77 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,084	Can't we just go back to Gamble? Did he fart during the interview?

01-08-2013, 04:47 PM	#140
BamaJets Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,777	Everyone here realizes the money Woody spends on the search firm doesn't count against the Jets cap, right? Woody hired the search firm to help him make the right choice. Maybe Cohen was ranked third by the search group. Maybe he was first. We don't know! Does it matter if Woody spent money on a search firm and they recommend Cohen? IT'S HIS MONEY!!! And if it is Cohen, and he comes highly recommended by this proven search firm, isn't that a good thing? Who cares if Woody spent his money on this?