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Eckesg1 · 01-09-2013, 02:23 PM

Just had a thought.

If the Jets hire Raye, that increases the chance of Norv coming here to be OC.

DDNYjets · 01-09-2013, 02:24 PM

I wouldn't mind this. He has been with them since 1996 and has worked his way up. The article says he oversees both college and NFL scouting, so that is a plus. The Chargers have drafted very well, especially on offense, during his tenure. And I think Smith is a good GM so anything he learned from him is a plus. My only issue is why they let some of those guys like Jackson and Sproles leave, but that probably had very little to do with Raye.

ToddtoBarkum1615 · 01-09-2013, 02:27 PM

If hiring him lures Norv, I'm all for it

SONNY WERBLIN · 01-09-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by freestater

The Chargers really haven't drafted all that well since Buddy Nix left.

Buddy Nix became the Bills GM in 2009. The Chargers have 9 starters who were drafted or signed as rookie free agents since Nix left. Their roster has 38 players (including guys on IR) who who were drafted or signed as rookie free agents since Nix left.

ps. let's not forget that Nix's first ever draft pick was Aaron Maybin.

JetFuel · 01-09-2013, 02:43 PM

bgivs21 · 01-09-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 10PennyToColes87

The good news: It doesn't look like Cohen's getting the job.

The bad news: They've completely moved on from Gamble.

Forget Korn/Ferry maybe woody should have hired the excellent firm Penny/Coles. I mean this seems like a knowledgable firm, with excellent information on all GM candidates.

We're sitting behind keyboards. We know naught of what is actually happening in these searches/interviews. Like a poster said- Gamble has been passed on by 3 teams!!!!! There must be something here.

I understand the frustration for having to wait, but Korn/Ferry and Woody are doing their due diligence. It seems they are not going to make an uniformed decision

King P · 01-09-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

I don't think that's really bad news. With the Chargers signing a GM, that makes 3 teams (including the Jets) that have passed over him. That's very suspicious.

Eh, not really. You gotta look at the context of things.

Jacksonville requested a 2nd interview with Gamble, but he turned them down. If the team wanted a 2nd interview, that probably means that they had some interest in him.

Gamble interviewed with SD late in the process. By then, they had a good idea of who they wanted. But we don't know what SD thought of Gamble.

SONNY WERBLIN · 01-09-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bgivs21

Forget Korn/Ferry maybe woody should have hired the excellent firm Penny/Coles. I mean this seems like a knowledgable firm, with excellent information on all GM candidates.

We're sitting behind keyboards. We know naught of what is actually happening in these searches/interviews. Like a poster said- Gamble has been passed on by 3 teams!!!!! There must be something here.

I understand the frustration for having to wait, but Korn/Ferry and Woody are doing their due diligence. It seems they are not going to make an uniformed decision

+1. It is hard, time consuming work to find the best person to fill the job. The "hot" candidate is not always the best, and I'm damn certain that most GM's try their best to prevent other teams from knowing which of their assistants is most valuable to them for as long as they possibly can.

10PennyToColes87 · 01-09-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bgivs21

Forget Korn/Ferry maybe woody should have hired the excellent firm Penny/Coles. I mean this seems like a knowledgable firm, with excellent information on all GM candidates.

We're sitting behind keyboards. We know naught of what is actually happening in these searches/interviews. Like a poster said- Gamble has been passed on by 3 teams!!!!! There must be something here.

I understand the frustration for having to wait, but Korn/Ferry and Woody are doing their due diligence. It seems they are not going to make an uniformed decision

Stay rustled.

Jungle Shift Jet · 01-09-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Life

Anyone know anything about Raye?

Yes. She was a star of the small and big screen and in her later years used Polident Green.

(Not to be confused with six of one kind of green and three score and two of another kind)

McGinley · 01-09-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 10PennyToColes87

Stay rustled.

He's straight up fictional, don't worry.

Savage69 · 01-09-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jungle Shift Jet

Yes. She was a star of the small and big screen and in her later years used Polident Green.

(Not to be confused with six of one kind of green and three score and two of another kind)

Great read on Martha.. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/martharaye.asp

Eckesg1 · 01-09-2013, 03:09 PM

I also think that Jimmy Raye would accept the Rex thing for one big reason. Raye has been with the Chargers organization for many years (17, I think). He was thought to be the favorite to be their GM, but has gotten passed for an outside candidate. If I were him, I would want out of that organization where there is no movement for growth.

Jungle Shift Jet · 01-09-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Great read on Martha.. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/martharaye.asp

Yeah, I saw that. Apparently the part about helping GIs is true, however
her actual bona fides may have been fudged.

Some people like fake ones I guess

SDJETS · 01-09-2013, 03:13 PM

Raye would be a good hire. The main charge against AJ here is that he is a megalomaniac who obsessively goes for "character guys" rather than the BPA. He wants things done his way or nothing. Thus, firing Marty and hiring Norv. His drafts have also been pretty up and down over the years, but not because of scouting, but (at least seemingly) because of his ego. The Larry English pick, for example—a classic, I know better than everyone else pick.

jetsfan1983 · 01-09-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SDJETS

Raye would be a good hire. The main charge against AJ here is that he is a megalomaniac who obsessively goes for "character guys" rather than the BPA. He wants things done his way or nothing. Thus, firing Marty and hiring Norv. His drafts have also been pretty up and down over the years, but not because of scouting, but (at least seemingly) because of his ego. The Larry English pick, for example—a classic, I know better than everyone else pick.

Character guys are typically the ones who figure out ways to get better. That's why his drafts have been so consistent.

The English pick is the only one of several years that really didn't work out. Can't bat a thousand, none of them do.

ucrenegade · 01-09-2013, 03:15 PM

would take raye over anyone from the dolphfags everyday.

bgivs21 · 01-09-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

He's straight up fictional, don't worry.

Not this kid again..

JetItalia · 01-09-2013, 03:19 PM

I cant remember which Raye it was, but there was one Jimmy Raye who used to be with the Jets organization, and he was the guy that "they would go to the booth to" to see if they should challenge a play or not. He was absolutely terrible.

Guitarjet · 01-09-2013, 03:21 PM

It's beginning to feel like every GM candidate with the Jets tells the truth about the current state of affairs. When asked how to fix the Jets each candidate replies "Dump the QB and lose money, dump the HC and lose some more money. Dump the underperforming players and lose more money, maximize number of draft picks, suck for a year then be well positioned in 2014 and beyond." There is no 1 year fix for a problem that took 4-5 years to create. Woody doesn't want to accept this fact.

01-09-2013, 02:23 PM	#21
Eckesg1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,352	Just had a thought. If the Jets hire Raye, that increases the chance of Norv coming here to be OC.

01-09-2013, 02:24 PM	#22
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,260	I wouldn't mind this. He has been with them since 1996 and has worked his way up. The article says he oversees both college and NFL scouting, so that is a plus. The Chargers have drafted very well, especially on offense, during his tenure. And I think Smith is a good GM so anything he learned from him is a plus. My only issue is why they let some of those guys like Jackson and Sproles leave, but that probably had very little to do with Raye.

01-09-2013, 02:27 PM	#23
ToddtoBarkum1615 Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 149	If hiring him lures Norv, I'm all for it

01-09-2013, 02:43 PM	#25
JetFuel All League Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,871

01-09-2013, 03:09 PM	#33
Eckesg1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,352	I also think that Jimmy Raye would accept the Rex thing for one big reason. Raye has been with the Chargers organization for many years (17, I think). He was thought to be the favorite to be their GM, but has gotten passed for an outside candidate. If I were him, I would want out of that organization where there is no movement for growth.

01-09-2013, 03:13 PM	#35
SDJETS Should be renamed SeaJets. Living large in WA now... Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,940	Raye would be a good hire. The main charge against AJ here is that he is a megalomaniac who obsessively goes for "character guys" rather than the BPA. He wants things done his way or nothing. Thus, firing Marty and hiring Norv. His drafts have also been pretty up and down over the years, but not because of scouting, but (at least seemingly) because of his ego. The Larry English pick, for example—a classic, I know better than everyone else pick.

01-09-2013, 03:15 PM	#37
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,005	would take raye over anyone from the dolphfags everyday.

01-09-2013, 03:19 PM	#39
JetItalia Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 179	I cant remember which Raye it was, but there was one Jimmy Raye who used to be with the Jets organization, and he was the guy that "they would go to the booth to" to see if they should challenge a play or not. He was absolutely terrible.

01-09-2013, 03:21 PM	#40
Guitarjet Rockin' In The Free World Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 943	It's beginning to feel like every GM candidate with the Jets tells the truth about the current state of affairs. When asked how to fix the Jets each candidate replies "Dump the QB and lose money, dump the HC and lose some more money. Dump the underperforming players and lose more money, maximize number of draft picks, suck for a year then be well positioned in 2014 and beyond." There is no 1 year fix for a problem that took 4-5 years to create. Woody doesn't want to accept this fact.