QueensJetsFan's Gripes About Woody Johnson Pile-On Thread

[pcola]

Originally Posted by batman10023

even if we went 0-16 woody would sell the team for a large profit.

Yup, he's the only one winning here.

[batman10023]

Originally Posted by Queens Jet Fan

Ahhh. The cry of the kool aid drinkers. Go root for another team. Sorry ain't happening and if it did no way ever the Giants.

Right - the real world view. It certainly seemed like today's event confirmed that my view is correct.

i think the product (generally) since woody has been an owner has been better than in previous years. not as good as we all would like.

you are an angry unhappy man when it comes to the Jets. and your biggest gripe isn't changing - woody is the owner for a long time. so, best to pick another team and be happy. life is too short.

[Queens Jet Fan]

Originally Posted by batman10023

i think the product (generally) since woody has been an owner has been better than in previous years. not as good as we all would like.

you are an angry unhappy man when it comes to the Jets. and your biggest gripe isn't changing - woody is the owner for a long time. so, best to pick another team and be happy. life is too short.

If the product has been better the despair has been worse. As a Jet fan I never felt as hopeless as I feel today over the direction of the franchise. I wish I could take your advice and just quit. Somehow I can't. Why? I wish I knew. Guess they are in my DNA.

[SAR I]

Originally Posted by batman10023

i think the product (generally) since woody has been an owner has been better than in previous years. not as good as we all would like.

you are an angry unhappy man when it comes to the Jets. and your biggest gripe isn't changing - woody is the owner for a long time. so, best to pick another team and be happy. life is too short.

Up until today I supported Woody Johnson on both sides of the ball.

Finances:

- Bought team, kept it in place.
- Attempted NYC stadium, spent millions against odds.
- Built new stadium as partner, no longer renting.
- Created a mechanism to get waitlist fans into great seats.
- Jets Top 10 in value, no longer Bottom 10.
- Built world-class practice facility.
- Spent appropriately on training, tech, coaches, non-cap areas.

Football:

- Took Parcells advice and transitioned as best as possible.
- Bradway a respected and experienced GM, Tannenbaum cap guy.
- Fired Herman Edwards appropriately, got draft pick.
- Fired Bradway but retained him for his scouting abilities.
- Promoted Tannenbaum and created a group-acquisition system.
- Fired Eric Mangini appropriately, team quit on him.
- Hired a culture-changing Rex Ryan, team responded to him.

But today is a no-go on the football side. Today was lunacy.

SAR I

[pcola]

Originally Posted by SAR I

Up until today I supported Woody Johnson on both sides of the ball.

Finances:

- Bought team, kept it in place.
- Attempted NYC stadium, spent millions against odds.
- Built new stadium as partner, no longer renting.
- Created a mechanism to get waitlist fans into great seats.
- Jets Top 10 in value, no longer Bottom 10.
- Built world-class practice facility.
- Spent appropriately on training, tech, coaches, non-cap areas.

Football:

- Took Parcells advice and transitioned as best as possible.
- Bradway a respected and experienced GM, Tannenbaum cap guy.
- Fired Herman Edwards appropriately, got draft pick.
- Fired Bradway but retained him for his scouting abilities.
- Promoted Tannenbaum and created a group-acquisition system.
- Fired Eric Mangini appropriately, team quit on him.
- Hired a culture-changing Rex Ryan, team responded to him.

But today is a no-go on the football side. Today was lunacy.

SAR I

The only thing that today lacked was the over head projector highlighting why Rex is perfect for the New York Jets.

[32green]

Originally Posted by pcola

The only thing that today lacked was the over head projector highlighting why Rex is perfect for the New York Jets.

The only thing missing today.. was at the end... "Rex" (John Goodman) ripping off his wig and shouting "live from New York....its Saturday Night!"

Les Nessman jumps up for wardrobe change...

hilarity ensues!

Good times

[Queens Jet Fan]

Originally Posted by 32green

Les Nessman jumps up for wardrobe change...

Good times

Would prefer the image of a Loni Anderson wardrobe change.

[jetstream23]

Originally Posted by Queens Jet Fan

Would prefer the image of a Loni Anderson wardrobe change.

So THAT'S who is on Rex's shoulder!

[batman10023]

Originally Posted by pcola

Yup, he's the only one winning here.

exactly.

[batman10023]

Originally Posted by Queens Jet Fan

If the product has been better the despair has been worse. As a Jet fan I never felt as hopeless as I feel today over the direction of the franchise. I wish I could take your advice and just quit. Somehow I can't. Why? I wish I knew. Guess they are in my DNA.

your despair. your not a happy guy when it comes to the Jets. Have never seen a positive post. it's not productive for your health and you are young enough to get out.

find another team but have the JETS as your second time. maybe try something in the NFC.

what about the Falcons?

[Savage69]

Originally Posted by Queens Jet Fan

Would prefer the image of a Loni Anderson wardrobe change.

You realize she's in her late 60's now I assume??

[revischrist]

Originally Posted by ASH_1962

Do you not think the same buffoon who had input into drafting Vlad Ducasse and Kyle Wilson will have as much or more input into personnel decisions in the coming years?

What about the guy that had input in the WIlkerson and Coples picks? Or do we just ignore the picks?

[GenoT]

Originally Posted by JetsFanatic

I don't agree with you. Rex is a good HC. This franchise needs a strong personnel guy at GM. The problem this season wasn't coaching it was offensive personal, or the lack thereof.

A rational fan.Didn't think there were any left. Your right on point, and with the vanilla play calling it made it worse.

[GenoT]

Originally Posted by revischrist

What about the guy that had input in the WIlkerson and Coples picks? Or do we just ignore the picks?

Kyle Wilson played very well in absense. Early on he got burned deep, but really picked up his game the second half. A very good tackler too.So i disagree, respectfully,of course

[GenoT]

Originally Posted by Queens Jet Fan

Was true till Stevie Johnson on the last game of the year. Wilson is awful.


I'm sorry but I want my coach to be a fine judge of talent on both sides of the ball. He should have input. Obviously Rex's input was lacking.

Do you remember Revis getting burned a few times by him, i do.

[intelligentjetsfan]

Originally Posted by Queens Jet Fan

It is well known that I'm not a big fan. I have constantly said he is in over his head and an incompetent in this job. I have taken a lot of grief over my vehement opposition to us joining a shared stadium with the Giants in NJ on this board. Yes, I believe that is Woody's original sin, but let's stay away from that here.

I don't see how anybody who heard Woody today can say that I was wrong in my assessment about him. The Jets are doomed as long as Woody stays the owner. How sad!

You are not wrong; the team is in the hands of an owner that is clueless. Unfortunately we have some Jets fans that if they were told by "their owner" that the **** on the table was steak, they would ask for seconds.

[ColonelForbin]

Originally Posted by Queens Jet Fan

It is well known that I'm not a big fan. I have constantly said he is in over his head and an incompetent in this job. I have taken a lot of grief over my vehement opposition to us joining a shared stadium with the Giants in NJ on this board. Yes, I believe that is Woody's original sin, but let's stay away from that here.

I don't see how anybody who heard Woody today can say that I was wrong in my assessment about him. The Jets are doomed as long as Woody stays the owner. How sad!

Totally on the money. ... That redic press conference sealed the deal for me. Rex and Woody are completely nuts.

Woody needs to get out of football operations, stop running this s**t like J&J Inc and Jerry Jones, and hire a real football guy who knows how to successfully build and run a football team.

[Queens Jet Fan]

Originally Posted by Savage69

You realize she's in her late 60's now I assume??

I will take a 60 year old Loni over Les Nisim all the time! Hey Savage you and I are not youngsters. 60 ain't that bad is it?

[Queens Jet Fan]

Originally Posted by GenoT

Do you remember Revis getting burned a few times by him, i do.

Yes Stevie Johnson is an excellent receiver. I just pointed it out because it was said that the Jets didn't give up a 100 yd receiving game all year, but they did.

[Jets337]

Originally Posted by SAR I

Up until today I supported Woody Johnson on both sides of the ball.

Finances:

- Bought team, kept it in place.
- Attempted NYC stadium, spent millions against odds.
- Built new stadium as partner, no longer renting.
- Created a mechanism to get waitlist fans into great seats.
- Jets Top 10 in value, no longer Bottom 10.
- Built world-class practice facility.
- Spent appropriately on training, tech, coaches, non-cap areas.

Football:

- Took Parcells advice and transitioned as best as possible.
- Bradway a respected and experienced GM, Tannenbaum cap guy.
- Fired Herman Edwards appropriately, got draft pick.
- Fired Bradway but retained him for his scouting abilities.
- Promoted Tannenbaum and created a group-acquisition system.
- Fired Eric Mangini appropriately, team quit on him.
- Hired a culture-changing Rex Ryan, team responded to him.

But today is a no-go on the football side. Today was lunacy.

SAR I

Disagree on the finance aspect but I would rather focus on the football part.

Who will want to be the GM of this team? Yesterdays press conference set the organization back 3-4 years. We could have rebuilt next year and been a decent team in 2014. Now even if Rex is fired after a year it will still be tough to attract a good coach and GM to come here. They will think Woody is a lunatic.