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JetsOptimist · 01-10-2013, 01:36 PM

Rex convinced Favre to play in '09. In hindsight, do you think we would have won at least 1 SB? Just curious.

Eckesg1 · 01-10-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsOptimist

Rex convinced Favre to play in '09. In hindsight, do you think we would have won at least 1 SB? Just curious.

Not in '09 because the defense still would have been ripped by Peyton, but if he matched him with the 2010 team. I think we beat the Steelers and get to the Super Bowl.

PMarsico9 · 01-10-2013, 01:39 PM

No.

Brett Favre was never that good.

Mike Holmgren deserves all the respect he gets:

He forced an absolute moron who happened to have a cannon to play football correctly.

Rex Ryan would not have been able to handle Favre at all.

dustykeller · 01-10-2013, 01:48 PM

Beerfish · 01-10-2013, 01:55 PM

They would have had a much better chance. Favre was tremendous in 2009. He was very good for the Jets before he got hurt and Mangini lost his nerve on defense.

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 01-10-2013, 02:17 PM

Yes. a little more offense and the superbowl was ours.

LockeJET · 01-10-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PMarsico9

No.

Brett Favre was never that good.

Mike Holmgren deserves all the respect he gets:

He forced an absolute moron who happened to have a cannon to play football correctly.

Rex Ryan would not have been able to handle Favre at all.

This is a bunch of crap. The next season after Favre left us, he had one of his best seasons of his career with Minny. He was a play away from the SB.

Ohio State NY Jets fan · 01-10-2013, 02:31 PM

Yes, +Millions

The 2009 Jets with an NFL caliber QB would have won 3 more regular season games, won the division with a clear path to the Superbowl

The team started 3-0 before Sanchez showed himself on bourbon street; threw a 99 yard pick 6 and fumbled for another NO TD (almost erie looking back on his legacy)

The Rex D held Brees to 0 TD's - a record that just ended this year

That team was swept by Miami with losses to Jacksonville and the 10-7 loss to the Falcons had Rex crying the blues - easy 3-4 more wins with Favre at the helm

Jets finished 9-7 and the Pats won the division that year at 10-6 (easy division title without Sanchez)

Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_New_York_Jets_season

Mangini set us up with that to-good-to be true trade (and I hope someone asks him that question one day)

section314 · 01-10-2013, 02:31 PM

Fun to speculate, but Farve was always high risk/high reward kinda guy. Don't forget, it was his int. in overtime in 2009 that led to Saints winning FG.

JoeyStylez · 01-10-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PMarsico9

No.

Brett Favre was never that good.

Mike Holmgren deserves all the respect he gets:

He forced an absolute moron who happened to have a cannon to play football correctly.

Rex Ryan would not have been able to handle Favre at all.

You fail at knowing football. Please go watch some other sport. Your departure would automatically increase the overall IQ of Jets fans everywhere.

PMarsico9 · 01-10-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LockeJET

This is a bunch of crap. The next season after Favre left us, he had one of his best seasons of his career with Minny. He was a play away from the SB.

He had a great regular season.

Then threw a stupid pick in the playoffs.

And there went the season.

PMarsico9 · 01-10-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyStylez

You fail at knowing football. Please go watch some other sport. Your departure would automatically increase the overall IQ of Jets fans everywhere.

Why don't we hug it out pal?

That way you can educate me on how Brett Favre wasn't overrated and didn't make stupid throws.

RMJK · 01-10-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsOptimist

Rex convinced Favre to play in '09. In hindsight, do you think we would have won at least 1 SB? Just curious.

What if the Queen had a set of balls.
would she then be King ?

He did well with the Vikings but he could have ruined our season with that 40 Year old plus body by getting injured. Imagine 2 years in a row injured with our fan base. It wouldn't be worth the risk.

JoeyStylez · 01-10-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PMarsico9

Why don't we hug it out pal?

That way you can educate me on how Brett Favre wasn't overrated and didn't make stupid throws.

Sorry, you're not my type. I only hug attractive females between the ages of 18-45. And if you can't see for yourself that a three time MVP is not overrated, then I can't help you.

DanNamath · 01-10-2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PMarsico9

Why don't we hug it out pal?

That way you can educate me on how Brett Favre wasn't overrated and didn't make stupid throws.

He was somewhat overrated and tended to make stupid throws. However he was still very talented. Anyone with about 60% of his talent and ability to execute would have led us to a Championship just by virtue of that D. If we could make the playoffs with Sanchez's mistakes we could have easily survived Favre's mistakes with his propensity to find the endzone. 6 touchdown game, remember? I don't think this current team has experienced 6 touchdown months.

GreenLantern · 01-11-2013, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ohio State NY Jets fan

Yes, +Millions

Jets finished 9-7 and the Pats won the division that year at 10-6 (easy division title without Sanchez)

Didn't the Chad Pennington Dolphins beat the Jets last game of the season to win the Division??

Never mind, wrong year.... I'll go back to bed

moninghaly · 01-11-2013, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Didn't the Chad Pennington Dolphins beat the Jets last game of the season to win the Division??

Never mind, wrong year.... I'll go back to bed

there is not if... in the real life

PatriotReign · 01-11-2013, 09:54 AM

Not only would've Favre lead them to a Lombardi he would've been the SB MVP.

Indeed this would have happened if a gumdrop unicorn sprinkled magical fairy dust and cured Favre of being an interception machine who was too lazy/stubborn to learn/stick with the playbook.

PMarsico9 · 01-11-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotReign

Not only would've Favre lead them to a Lombardi he would've been the SB MVP.

Indeed this would have happened if a gumdrop unicorn sprinkled magical fairy dust and cured Favre of being an interception machine who was too lazy/stubborn to learn/stick with the playbook.

This is my point.

Without Holmgren Favre didn't win anything. Holmgren was the only guy to garner enough respect from Favre to play within a system and not try to be "THE MAN."

Now how about this one:

Instead of Trading up for Sanchez, the Jets trade their 1st rounder to Washington (who wanted Sanchez badly) for Jason Campbell.

Campbell would've been exactly the type of complementary QB that this team needed.

Things would've been very different with a QB who didn't require constant bail-out by the defense and running game, both of which weren't in optimal shape.

01-10-2013, 01:36 PM	#1
JetsOptimist Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 247	What IF... Rex convinced Favre to play in '09. In hindsight, do you think we would have won at least 1 SB? Just curious.

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01-10-2013, 01:39 PM	#3
PMarsico9 This pit has no bottom All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,853	No. Brett Favre was never that good. Mike Holmgren deserves all the respect he gets: He forced an absolute moron who happened to have a cannon to play football correctly. Rex Ryan would not have been able to handle Favre at all.

01-10-2013, 01:55 PM	#5
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,115	They would have had a much better chance. Favre was tremendous in 2009. He was very good for the Jets before he got hurt and Mangini lost his nerve on defense.

01-10-2013, 02:17 PM	#6
Vinny Testaverde's Niece Post Count Not Affected By Demise of Hotties Forum All League Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 4,290	Yes. a little more offense and the superbowl was ours.

01-10-2013, 02:31 PM	#8
Ohio State NY Jets fan Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,993	Yes, +Millions The 2009 Jets with an NFL caliber QB would have won 3 more regular season games, won the division with a clear path to the Superbowl The team started 3-0 before Sanchez showed himself on bourbon street; threw a 99 yard pick 6 and fumbled for another NO TD (almost erie looking back on his legacy) The Rex D held Brees to 0 TD's - a record that just ended this year That team was swept by Miami with losses to Jacksonville and the 10-7 loss to the Falcons had Rex crying the blues - easy 3-4 more wins with Favre at the helm Jets finished 9-7 and the Pats won the division that year at 10-6 (easy division title without Sanchez) Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_New_York_Jets_season Mangini set us up with that to-good-to be true trade (and I hope someone asks him that question one day)

01-10-2013, 02:31 PM	#9
section314 ABA hoops expert Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,027	Fun to speculate, but Farve was always high risk/high reward kinda guy. Don't forget, it was his int. in overtime in 2009 that led to Saints winning FG.

01-11-2013, 09:54 AM	#18
PatriotReign Asterisks of Excellence *** All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boston area Posts: 4,356	Not only would've Favre lead them to a Lombardi he would've been the SB MVP. Indeed this would have happened if a gumdrop unicorn sprinkled magical fairy dust and cured Favre of being an interception machine who was too lazy/stubborn to learn/stick with the playbook.