The Official "I STILL BELIEVE IN REX" Thread

[SAR I]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

I totally get the vote of "no confidence" in Rex. But the grim reality is that it would be pointless to fire him right now. There is no strategic benefit for the Jets to create a HC vacancy at this moment.

A HC vacancy assures a quality GM would want to come here.

We are going to wind up with the worst GM candidate this year and still wind up with a new head coach next year. All that retaining Rex is doing is screwing up the GM opportunity. It's criminal.

SAR I

[PMarsico9]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

I totally get the vote of "no confidence" in Rex. But the grim reality is that it would be pointless to fire him right now. There is no strategic benefit for the Jets to create a HC vacancy at this moment.

It benefits the GM search.

There would be a lot more candidates, even Bill Polian, who would be interested in this job if they had full control from top to bottom.

I don't even like Bill Polian, but at the very least he understands how to tank seasons to get the top pick and an excellent QB.

Just to be clear: Coaches having a say on who the GM will is ass backwards.

[Green Bandit]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

That's a tough one..... Rookie HC's who won a SB in their first 4 years...? How about:

Mike Tomlin
Mike McCarthy
Barry Switzer
George Seifert
Jimmy Johnson
Bill Walsh
Tom Flores
Joe Gibbs

Touché you got me. But besides JJ, look at the teams they all inherited. It's easy to win Super Bowls when you have a franchise QB

[McGinley]

Originally Posted by GenoT

Whatch the name calling, buddy.You don't even have a clue about what you said in your own post.Big deal two championship losses for Rex Doesn't mean anything.Thats what you said. My response was that according to YOUR STANDARD that you stated in your own post The Ravens and Texans, and the Bengals HC should be considered failures also.Idiots are people who can't understand what other people are saying. You can't even understand what you say

Until the Texans and Bengals take a nose dive, why are they even in the conversation? Those are two teams that are on the UPSWING at the moment. That is not US.

As for the Ravens and Harbaugh, they are consistent in their regular season and consistently make the playoffs. When it comes to Harbaugh, no one is hinging everything on two AFCCG losses the same way that they are with Rex. Yeah, Harbaugh has lost in the playoffs just like every other coach. The difference between coaches like that and Rex is that they can actually hang their hats on something other than two AFCCG appearances/losses. Hell, Harbaugh was a dropped pass away from going to the Superbowl. THEN, he was a missed chip shot away from at least sending that AFCCG last year into overtime. Do you not understand this? How hard is it to understand basic logic, Geno?

Rex, on the other hand, is on the decline and in embarrassing fashion.

[SONNY WERBLIN]

Originally Posted by SAR I

A HC vacancy assures a quality GM would want to come here.

We are going to wind up with the worst GM candidate this year and still wind up with a new head coach next year. All that retaining Rex is doing is screwing up the GM opportunity. It's criminal.

SAR I

So, which GM candidates have withdrawn their name from consideration because of Rex?

[GenoT]

Originally Posted by McGinley

"When we sat down with Tony, I knew that he was the right person at the right time for our offense," - Rex Ryan.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...ve-coordinator

If thats the wat he really felt, he was way wrong.I have my doubts though about that.Please don't slam me.There are othere things he said that make me wonder if those were his true feelings.Its been reported,[for what its worth],that Ryan was the first one to run to Woody about Sparano getting the Ax

[SONNY WERBLIN]

Originally Posted by Green Bandit

Touché you got me. But besides JJ, look at the teams they all inherited. It's easy to win Super Bowls when you have a franchise QB

These guys inherited nothing:

Mike McCarthy
Jimmy Johnson
Bill Walsh
Tom Flores
Joe Gibbs

[McGinley]

Originally Posted by GenoT

If thats the wat he really felt, he was way wrong.I have my doubts though about that.Please don't slam me.There are othere things he said that make me wonder if those were his true feelings.Its been reported,[for what its worth],that Ryan was the first one to run to Woody about Sparano getting the Ax

I'm not going to slam you. As a matter of fact, I apologize for insulting you before.

If Rex has somehow learned his lesson and has had a revelation, fine. But, I seriously doubt that to be the case.

[PMarsico9]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

These guys inherited nothing:

Mike McCarthy
Jimmy Johnson
Bill Walsh
Tom Flores
Joe Gibbs

McCarthy inherited Favre, who was way more difficult to get rid of and allow the installation of Rodgers.

[PMarsico9]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

So, which GM candidates have withdrawn their name from consideration because of Rex?

Polian for one.
Likely Caldwell.

That's all we know of thus far. Alot of this will not be transparent.

[McGinley]

Originally Posted by PMarsico9

Polian for one.
Likely Caldwell.

That's all we know of thus far. Alot of this will not be transparent.

Thing about the Caldwell case is that it seemed like Jacksonville was his first choice but they were too far apart on money. He uses us as leverage and then Jacksonville gives him the money he wanted.

Could be the other way around, though. Who knows.

[GenoT]

Originally Posted by McGinley

Until the Texans and Bengals take a nose dive, why are they even in the conversation? Those are two teams that are on the UPSWING at the moment. That is not US.

As for the Ravens and Harbaugh, they are consistent in their regular season and consistently make the playoffs. When it comes to Harbaugh, no one is hinging everything on two AFCCG losses the same way that they are with Rex. Yeah, Harbaugh has lost in the playoffs just like every other coach. The difference between coaches like that and Rex is that they can actually hang their hats on something other than two AFCCG appearances/losses. Hell, Harbaugh was a dropped pass away from going to the Superbowl. THEN, he was a missed chip shot away from at least sending that AFCCG last year into overtime. Do you not understand this? How hard is it to understand basic logic, Geno?

Rex, on the other hand, is on the decline and in embarrassing fashion.

I disagree with you, respectfully,though, my Jet Friend.If Ryan had Matt Moore,or Kirk Cousins,and stuck with Sanchez,then i'd be all over him,but he didn't.This season boiled down to a QB, who could not hold onto the football, and couldn't make plays when plays were there to be made.The play of our QB,was completely responsible for 3-5 looses this year.You might not care for Rex, But you can't blame him for buttfumble turnovers that happened throughout the course of the season.Thats not bad coaching, yhats a really bad QB, that has no clue how to protect the football

[SONNY WERBLIN]

Originally Posted by PMarsico9

Polian for one.
Likely Caldwell.

That's all we know of thus far. Alot of this will not be transparent.

Polian has said he is retired, He does not want to work for anyone.

"Likely" Caldwell? Nice.... You certainly have well-honed investigative skills.

[sackdance]

Originally Posted by McGinley

If Rex has somehow learned his lesson

He is a dumb a$s to begin with.

Rex would stand out on that list of esteemed coaches as the only one to unnecessarily make a spectacle of himself and his team.

These "lessons", which let's face it - he won't take to heart, come at the franchise's expense. One skill none of us knew about Rex previous to the Jets is his uncanny ability to have those around him, less important role players, take the bullets that should have his name on them. There's nobody left but Rex, his owner, and the assistants to the assistants!

I have no idea how RR can still be defended as a viable HC for this team.

[McGinley]

Originally Posted by GenoT

I disagree with you, respectfully,though, my Jet Friend.If Ryan had Matt Moore,or Kirk Cousins,and stuck with Sanchez,then i'd be all over him,but he didn't.This season boiled down to a QB, who could not hold onto the football, and couldn't make plays when plays were there to be made.The play of our QB,was completely responsible for 3-5 looses this year.You might not care for Rex, But you can't blame him for buttfumble turnovers that happened throughout the course of the season.Thats not bad coaching, yhats a really bad QB, that has no clue how to protect the football

I'll agree that assfumble definitely contributed to this ****. Still, I'm a firm believer in this not being ALL on Intchez. There's plenty of blame to go around, and Rex is definitely one who needs some.

[LIJetsFan]

Originally Posted by McGinley

Results? Haha, what results? A 9-7 year where we snuck into the playoffs and lost in the AFCCG after Rex PROMISED us that we'd win the Superbowl, an 8-8 year where we fell apart and Rex couldn't put us back together, and a 6-10 year where we completely got embarrassed and become the laughing stock of the league? Oh, but one good year where we also lost in the AFCCG is worth it. Wow, what great results!

My opinion on Rex is formed based on the fact that he's done absolutely NOTHING for us. If you like the way his balls taste, then enjoy. I, for one, will not blindly back a fool who makes our team a complete joke.

As I started reading this post the word stupid came to mind. As I got further along the word ignorant came to mind. As I ended reading this post the word vulgar came to mind.

Thinking more about it, this often happens when I read your posts. So please I respect your right to disagree but please stop the histrionics and rudeness so I can get thru them without feeling sad for having read them.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

[jime1127]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

I totally get the vote of "no confidence" in Rex. But the grim reality is that it would be pointless to fire him right now. There is no strategic benefit for the Jets to create a HC vacancy at this moment.

So GM, DC, OC ST coach gone and Rex is the main cog that we get to rely on....great!
There is no strategic benefit to keeping him around. He stays and we get start over now with a whole new staff, then maybe start over again a year from now. The entire NFL is laughing at us, fans are embarrassed, but have faith in Rex. Seriously?

[ASG0531]

Originally Posted by McGinley

Until the Texans and Bengals take a nose dive, why are they even in the conversation? Those are two teams that are on the UPSWING at the moment. That is not US.

As for the Ravens and Harbaugh, they are consistent in their regular season and consistently make the playoffs. When it comes to Harbaugh, no one is hinging everything on two AFCCG losses the same way that they are with Rex. Yeah, Harbaugh has lost in the playoffs just like every other coach. The difference between coaches like that and Rex is that they can actually hang their hats on something other than two AFCCG appearances/losses. Hell, Harbaugh was a dropped pass away from going to the Superbowl. THEN, he was a missed chip shot away from at least sending that AFCCG last year into overtime. Do you not understand this? How hard is it to understand basic logic, Geno?

Rex, on the other hand, is on the decline and in embarrassing fashion.

Texans are on the verge of making an AFCCG. And if the Pats win, that's two consecutive AFCCGs.

edit: no road playoff wins, though

It's great, the legacy of all four teams (well Peyton, not Denver) will be affected in the next two weeks.

[McGinley]

Originally Posted by LIJetsFan

As I started reading this post the word stupid came to mind. As I got further along the word ignorant came to mind. As I ended reading this post the word vulgar came to mind.

Thinking more about it, this often happens when I read your posts. So please I respect your right to disagree but please stop the histrionics and rudeness so I can get thru them without feeling sad for having read them.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

[McGinley]

Originally Posted by ASG0531

Texans are on the verge of making an AFCCG. And if the Pats win, that's two consecutive AFCCGs.

Congrats.