Unemployed jagass

[SONNY WERBLIN]

Originally Posted by shakin318

No, the brainstorm room was at my last job. But the drinking program is current. Actually, it's weird, the culture here is like a throwback to the 60s when drinking during work was not only rampant but socially acceptable. Of course it's not as rampant or as acceptable, but it's definitely a culture of people who get hammered together often.

wait.... you mean everyone's not drinking at work? WTF? It is like the best place to drink. If you don't have a bar in your office, you'd at least better have a bottle of Jameson in your desk drawer. Gotta keep something in their since everyone's gone paperless.

[shakin318]

Originally Posted by Jetfan16

Answer my question, Mr. Korn-Ferry:

Do you give extra consideration to applicants who send in multiple applications for the same job?????

I don't have any idea how many times applicants apply for the same job...our HR department screens resumes according to the job requirements I give them. But if you really need an answer, I'd interpret multiple submissions for the same job to be indicative of strange behavior at best, mental illness at worst. I'd forward those to Sean for consideration next time there's a mod opening.

[Jetfan16]

Originally Posted by shakin318

I don't have any idea how many times applicants apply for the same job...our HR department screens resumes according to the job requirements I give them. But if you really need an answer, I'd interpret multiple submissions for the same job to be indicative of strange behavior at best, mental illness at worst. I'd forward those to Sean for consideration next time there's a mod opening.

I have a friend who doesn't have a job, and sometimes we've hung out and gone driving somewhere, and he'll be like, oh, stop at such and such place. He'll walk into that business (and yes, I have walked in and observed him do this) and deadpan ask the person if he can have 10 employment applications, and in most cases, the person will give him the 10 applications (assuming they have enough). He'll take the applications with him, get them filled out, and turn in all 10 applications at once. Then he'll go around to other businesses and do the same thing. He once got a notice from one place where they asked him to stop applying, as they said he had turned in 500 employment applications to them during one year, and that he was "flooding their databases" with all the applications he turned in.

He's pretty messed up, but yeah, anytime I hear the word application now, it just cracks me up, because this kid fills out like 30 applications a day and sends them in (he does a lot of online apps). The best part is, I don't even think he wants a job. He actually did get hired by one of these places, kind of early in the application game, and he was to start on a Monday morning. We ended up going to the casino on Sunday night, didn't get back until whenever, like 3 in the morning, so he just decided not to go in. A couple of days later, the place called him and actually asked him if he was going to come in, saying that he could still have the job. He told them no, and then they said don't ever apply here again. Ever since that time, he's been sending in 30 applications a day to places...

[32green]

Originally Posted by Jetfan16

I have a friend who doesn't have a job, and sometimes we've hung out and gone driving somewhere, and he'll be like, oh, stop at such and such place. He'll walk into that business (and yes, I have walked in and observed him do this) and deadpan ask the person if he can have 10 employment applications, and in most cases, the person will give him the 10 applications (assuming they have enough). He'll take the applications with him, get them filled out, and turn in all 10 applications at once. Then he'll go around to other businesses and do the same thing. He once got a notice from one place where they asked him to stop applying, as they said he had turned in 500 employment applications to them during one year, and that he was "flooding their databases" with all the applications he turned in.

He's pretty messed up, but yeah, anytime I hear the word application now, it just cracks me up, because this kid fills out like 30 applications a day and sends them in (he does a lot of online apps). The best part is, I don't even think he wants a job. He actually did get hired by one of these places, kind of early in the application game, and he was to start on a Monday morning. We ended up going to the casino on Sunday night, didn't get back until whenever, like 3 in the morning, so he just decided not to go in. A couple of days later, the place called him and actually asked him if he was going to come in, saying that he could still have the job. He told them no, and then they said don't ever apply here again. Ever since that time, he's been sending in 30 applications a day to places...

This...is modern day Kerouac....with a dash of Hunter Thompson.

No other way to explain it.

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[brady's a catcher]

Originally Posted by Jetfan16

I have a friend who doesn't have a job, and sometimes we've hung out and gone driving somewhere, and he'll be like, oh, stop at such and such place. He'll walk into that business (and yes, I have walked in and observed him do this) and deadpan ask the person if he can have 10 employment applications, and in most cases, the person will give him the 10 applications (assuming they have enough). He'll take the applications with him, get them filled out, and turn in all 10 applications at once. Then he'll go around to other businesses and do the same thing. He once got a notice from one place where they asked him to stop applying, as they said he had turned in 500 employment applications to them during one year, and that he was "flooding their databases" with all the applications he turned in.

He's pretty messed up, but yeah, anytime I hear the word application now, it just cracks me up, because this kid fills out like 30 applications a day and sends them in (he does a lot of online apps). The best part is, I don't even think he wants a job. He actually did get hired by one of these places, kind of early in the application game, and he was to start on a Monday morning. We ended up going to the casino on Sunday night, didn't get back until whenever, like 3 in the morning, so he just decided not to go in. A couple of days later, the place called him and actually asked him if he was going to come in, saying that he could still have the job. He told them no, and then they said don't ever apply here again. Ever since that time, he's been sending in 30 applications a day to places...

What a nutter....sounds like someone I would have loved to hang out with 15-20 years ago.

[Jetfan16]

Originally Posted by brady's a catcher

What a nutter....sounds like someone I would have loved to hang out with 15-20 years ago.

So, according to Shakin, a person who turns in two applications for the same job opening is exhibiting strange behavior at best, and mental illness at worst, so what would it be for somebody who turns in 500 applications to the same business in 1 year, let alone all the other businesses he's applied to and countless apps he's turned in to them as well?

[quantum]

Originally Posted by shakin318

Huh. I had you pegged as a Megasoreass.

And you would be perfect as a Penisaurus.

[Jetfan16]

Originally Posted by shakin318

Huh. I had you pegged as a Megasoreass.

If the person had told you that if he was a Dinosaur, he would be a Twattasaurus, would you have hired him?

[crossfire]

Originally Posted by Jetfan16

If the person had told you that if he was a Dinosaur, he would be a Twattasaurus, would you have hired him?

Only if he sent in multiple applications.

[The Boston Patriot]

Originally Posted by Jetfan16

I have a friend who doesn't have a job, and sometimes we've hung out and gone driving somewhere, and he'll be like, oh, stop at such and such place. He'll walk into that business (and yes, I have walked in and observed him do this) and deadpan ask the person if he can have 10 employment applications, and in most cases, the person will give him the 10 applications (assuming they have enough). He'll take the applications with him, get them filled out, and turn in all 10 applications at once. Then he'll go around to other businesses and do the same thing. He once got a notice from one place where they asked him to stop applying, as they said he had turned in 500 employment applications to them during one year, and that he was "flooding their databases" with all the applications he turned in.

He's pretty messed up, but yeah, anytime I hear the word application now, it just cracks me up, because this kid fills out like 30 applications a day and sends them in (he does a lot of online apps). The best part is, I don't even think he wants a job. He actually did get hired by one of these places, kind of early in the application game, and he was to start on a Monday morning. We ended up going to the casino on Sunday night, didn't get back until whenever, like 3 in the morning, so he just decided not to go in. A couple of days later, the place called him and actually asked him if he was going to come in, saying that he could still have the job. He told them no, and then they said don't ever apply here again. Ever since that time, he's been sending in 30 applications a day to places...

Why isn't this guy a hampur mod?

Sounds like he has all the qualifications.

[crasherino]

Originally Posted by 32green

This...is modern day Kerouac....with a dash of Hunter Thompson.

No other way to explain it.

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I kept waiting for some funny punch line with what he did with the apps. Bitterly disappointed to get to the end to find out that he.....wait for it.....


SUMBITTED THEM!

That's a whole lotta work for people to think you're a freak. Simply taking a dump on the floor would have been a lot easier to get the same result.

[Bonhomme Richard]

Originally Posted by The Boston Patriot

Why isn't this guy a hampur mod?

Sounds like he has all the qualifications.

Ironically, he never sent in an application.

[Timmy®]

Originally Posted by Jetfan16

as they said he had turned in 500 employment applications to them during one year, and that he was "flooding their databases" with all the applications he turned in.

reminds me of Ruby's failed mod campaigns


get on the bus

[crossfire]

Originally Posted by The Boston Patriot

Why isn't this guy a hampur mod?

Sounds like he has all the qualifications.

Sounds like Ruby has gone off the deep end after multiple mod applications were rejected.

[32green]

Originally Posted by crasherino

I kept waiting for some funny punch line with what he did with the apps. Bitterly disappointed to get to the end to find out that he.....wait for it.....


SUMBITTED THEM!

That's a whole lotta work for people to think you're a freak. Simply taking a dump on the floor would have been a lot easier to get the same result.

We laugh, but you know this guy will get hired as an airline pilot because of this one day.


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[Jetfan16]

Originally Posted by crossfire

Only if he sent in multiple applications.

Have you ever heard of a Twattasaurus?

[BushyTheBeaver]

Originally Posted by shakin318

If you're applying for a creative/marketing writing position and you dont show up with your "book" you are a fool. Of course I had seen his resume, and had marked up the hell out of it -- I knew more about him than he knew about us. You ALWAYS bring printed copies of your resume to an interview, it's idiotic and lazy not to. It's a basic rule -- like making sure to wear a suit for your phone interview.

So that's interesting. Assuming you're just not an out of touch old fart it underscores how the term "writer" (and the criteria by how one is judged) can vary widely by industy. Since you mentioned advertising and "bringing his book" I'm guessing you used "writer" to mean an ad copywriter (of which I confess I know nothing more than what I've gleaned watching Mad Men and Bewitched. In that context I can see bringing hard copy of one's portfolio to an interview making sense (although I still can't figure why you wanted extra copies of his resume...something to put your drink on?).

In my work life--sw development--"writer" means tech writer. For a tech writer the emphasis (beyond writing ability and technical aptitude, which is assumed) is familiarity with the virtual world. Among other things that means (as Quantum wrote) that the individual has an online presence where his portfolio is available. If a tech writer showed up to an interview with stacks of paper and tried to foist copy of his writing samples on me it would count against him in a big way--the equivalent of walking into Best Buy and saying you want to purchase a gramaphone.

[shakin318]

Originally Posted by BushyTheBeaver

So that's interesting. Assuming you're just not an out of touch old fart it underscores how the term "writer" (and the criteria by how one is judged) can vary widely by industy. Since you mentioned advertising and "bringing his book" I'm guessing you used "writer" to mean an ad copywriter (of which I confess I know nothing more than what I've gleaned watching Mad Men and Bewitched. In that context I can see bringing hard copy of one's portfolio to an interview making sense (although I still can't figure why you wanted extra copies of his resume...something to put your drink on?).

In my work life--sw development--"writer" means tech writer. For a tech writer the emphasis (beyond writing ability and technical aptitude, which is assumed) is familiarity with the virtual world. Among other things that means (as Quantum wrote) that the individual has an online presence where his portfolio is available. If a tech writer showed up to an interview with stacks of paper and tried to foist copy of his writing samples on me it would count against him in a big way--the equivalent of walking into Best Buy and saying you want to purchase a gramaphone.

I'll repeat myself. Failing to bring at least a single copy (if not multiple copies) of your resume to an interview is major fail. Google "what to bring to an interview" and tell me if it isn't on every single list in the top ten search results. You never know how many people are going to be interviewing you -- if the interview goes better than expected and the interviewer wants you to meet his/her superior right then and there, failing to have a clean copy of your resume handy to give him/her reflects poorly on you and your ability to be prepared. If your fallback is "I emailed my resume, it's your fault your company didn't print enough copies," I hope that warms your heart as you hit the pavement as a still-unemployed torch carrier for the new way of the world.

As for having one's "book," go back and read my post in which I said it would be great if he had one online, like many or even most copywriters do today. He had nothing in print nor online, and thus was wasting my time. In my field (marketing/advertising) a copywriting candidate wouldn't bring "stacks of paper" as one might in your pocket-protector/taped eyeglasses world -- in fact some of the best sample books I've seen have been on the candidate's iPad. By the same token, a portfolio with printed pieces often works better for showing complex printed pieces in which reading all the copy online, in context, would be difficult.

[32green]

Originally Posted by shakin318

I'll repeat myself. Failing to bring at least a single copy (if not multiple copies) of your resume to an interview is major fail. Google "what to bring to an interview" and tell me if it isn't on every single list in the top ten search results. You never know how many people are going to be interviewing you -- if the interview goes better than expected and the interviewer wants you to meet his/her superior right then and there, failing to have a clean copy of your resume handy to give him/her reflects poorly on you and your ability to be prepared. If your fallback is "I emailed my resume, it's your fault your company didn't print enough copies," I hope that warms your heart as you hit the pavement as a still-unemployed torch carrier for the new way of the world.

As for having one's "book," go back and read my post in which I said it would be great if he had one online, like many or even most copywriters do today. He had nothing in print nor online, and thus was wasting my time. In my field (marketing/advertising) a copywriting candidate wouldn't bring "stacks of paper" as one might in your pocket-protector/taped eyeglasses world -- in fact some of the best sample books I've seen have been on the candidate's iPad. By the same token, a portfolio with printed pieces often works better for showing complex printed pieces in which reading all the copy online, in context, would be difficult.

Who is this guy?




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[southside]

Originally Posted by shakin318

I'll repeat myself. Failing to bring at least a single copy (if not multiple copies) of your resume to an interview is major fail. Google "what to bring to an interview" and tell me if it isn't on every single list in the top ten search results. You never know how many people are going to be interviewing you -- if the interview goes better than expected and the interviewer wants you to meet his/her superior right then and there, failing to have a clean copy of your resume handy to give him/her reflects poorly on you and your ability to be prepared. If your fallback is "I emailed my resume, it's your fault your company didn't print enough copies," I hope that warms your heart as you hit the pavement as a still-unemployed torch carrier for the new way of the world.

As for having one's "book," go back and read my post in which I said it would be great if he had one online, like many or even most copywriters do today. He had nothing in print nor online, and thus was wasting my time. In my field (marketing/advertising) a copywriting candidate wouldn't bring "stacks of paper" as one might in your pocket-protector/taped eyeglasses world -- in fact some of the best sample books I've seen have been on the candidate's iPad. By the same token, a portfolio with printed pieces often works better for showing complex printed pieces in which reading all the copy online, in context, would be difficult.

No offense. But I'm as cutting edge as it gets. I've worked for 3 Fortune 15 companies. I'd never work for someone that has the OLD idea of interviewing. And I can assure you that I wouldn't be turned away because I don't bring my resume. You have my resume. I sent it to you. You called me because of it. I'm not bringing you another copy. You should know me. All that means is that your company is full of lazy and clueless people and all that is going to tell me is that I am going to have to do more than one person's job... a lot.

No thanks. Have fun with your cliche'd college student who knows the rules for getting hired but doesn't know his ass from the hole in the ground.

So says the guy that has worked from home for his entire 20s and never stepped foot on a college campus. You can either do a job or you can't. If you want to waste my time with bullsh!t I'd throw it so hard back in your face. I've done it before and I'll do it again.