Jim Popp for GM!!

[pcola]

Originally Posted by Vinny Testaverde's Niece

We have nothing to lose? Seriously????

Right, this is a 5 year hire. But based on the fact that Cohen may be the only other option, give the man a blank check.

[escamoter2]

Originally Posted by Vinny Testaverde's Niece

We have nothing to lose? Seriously????

We stink (for two years in a row). All of the upper echelon candidates are signed because we refused to fire Rex. We can pick something off the scrap heap or take a chance on a guy who has been successful as an actual GM (regardless if it is the CFL). The Jerry Angelo's and Scott Piolis of the world weren't successful. The rest have no experience.

[pcola]

What will Woody say if a Canadian Football League guy declines the Job?

Will he fire Rex then?

[Eckesg1]

Stu Cowan ‏@StuCowan1
Alouettes GM Jim Popp admits he wants a job in the NFL @mtlgazette: http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...444/story.html …

[jetsfan1983]

Originally Posted by pcola

What will Woody say if a Canadian Football League guy declines the Job?

Will he fire Rex then?

First of all, they know the situation so they wouldn't take the interview.

Second of all, Rex is a good coach and that is why we haven't seen anyone second-guess interviewing or taking the job.

[escamoter2]

Originally Posted by Eckesg1

Stu Cowan ‏@StuCowan1
Alouettes GM Jim Popp admits he wants a job in the NFL @mtlgazette: http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...444/story.html …

Well, let's give it to him.

[pcola]

Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

First of all, they know the situation so they wouldn't take the interview.

Second of all, Rex is a good coach and that is why we haven't seen anyone second-guess interviewing or taking the job.

Um Ok. We talked to close to 10 outside candidates to get 3 interviews.

What I think people are mistaking when it comes to vacant GM jobs. Yes there are only 32 in the world. But some are better than others. Some teams have great owners. Some have superstar QBs. Some have a long line of success.

Our job has none of this.

Even some of the bad jobs, Jax for instance, offer hungry candidates the opportunity to FIX the team. They have autonomy to make the required changes.

Then you have us where we are asking candidates to take this job, where above all of the problems that we have discussed throughout the site, where their success or failure is going to be dependent on Rex Ryan, a coach that has proven he can be a great X and O guy on defense, is beyond terrible on offense, pretty terrible when it comes to player development, and has the mentality where the short-sighted goals outweigh building the team the way the elite franchises build their team.

Good candidates can turn down this job and get more interviews. Take this job where the likelihood of failure is pretty high, never work again. Look at Tanny.

[Eckesg1]

Originally Posted by pcola

Um Ok. We talked to close to 10 outside candidates to get 3 interviews.

What I think people are mistaking when it comes to vacant GM jobs. Yes there are only 32 in the world. But some are better than others. Some teams have great owners. Some have superstar QBs. Some have a long line of success.

Our job has none of this.

Even some of the bad jobs, Jax for instance, offer hungry candidates the opportunity to FIX the team. They have autonomy to make the required changes.

Then you have us where we are asking candidates to take this job, where above all of the problems that we have discussed throughout the site, where their success or failure is going to be dependent on Rex Ryan, a coach that has proven he can be a great X and O guy on defense, is beyond terrible on offense, pretty terrible when it comes to player development, and has the mentality where the short-sighted goals outweigh building the team the way the elite franchises build their team.

Good candidates can turn down this job and get more interviews. Take this job where the likelihood of failure is pretty high, never work again. Look at Tanny.

But when you have a person like Popp who has admitted to wanting to be in the NFL, you lower your requirements a bit to get the chance.

[Toooon]

Originally Posted by pcola

Good candidates can turn down this job and get more interviews. Take this job where the likelihood of failure is pretty high, never work again. Look at Tanny.

I get your point and totally agree, but let's not get crazy about Tanny. Even if we never promoted him to GM in 2006 he wouldn't have been considered for that position by any other team. Not a question in my mind about that.

[Toooon]

Originally Posted by Eckesg1

But when you have a person like Popp who has admitted to wanting to be in the NFL, you lower your requirements a bit to get the chance.

I agree with that. But if he really is as competent as everything I've read, I doubt he'd settle for a position with no real power, even to work in the NFL. And if Woody actually plans to give power to the next GM, anyone who comes off as competent during interviews will scare off Woody and Rex, because they'll realize Rex is a goner after next year.

[Eckesg1]

Originally Posted by Toooon

I agree with that. But if he really is as competent as everything I've read, I doubt he'd settle for a position with no real power, even to work in the NFL. And if Woody actually plans to give power to the next GM, anyone who comes off as competent during interviews will scare off Woody and Rex, because they'll realize Rex is a goner after next year.

So why are they interviewing competent people? And I still believe that if the Jets go 4-12 and under that Woody will fire Rex. The media will put so much pressure on him that he will have to.

[pcola]

Originally Posted by Toooon

I agree with that. But if he really is as competent as everything I've read, I doubt he'd settle for a position with no real power, even to work in the NFL. And if Woody actually plans to give power to the next GM, anyone who comes off as competent during interviews will scare off Woody and Rex, because they'll realize Rex is a goner after next year.

He is garnering respect from NFL front offices. He has interviewed the last 2 years. No reason those interviews would stop since he is apparently a great interview.

If he comes here, it would be to work with a coach that is short term (only 2 years left), one that is replacing his entire staff and because they are waiting on the GM, all of the quality assistants who are not under contract will have plenty of offers. Not to mention the cap and free agent situation.

From the Jets point of view: this is a Jet move. Boom or Bust. It will make more headlines than any other GM hire. Probably ever. he could solve the OC problem with an innovative offensive mind.

From his perspective, if he comes here in a very challenging situation and he fails, he probably taints the entire CFL forever. Plus, no other front office may be willing to give him a second chance.

What will happen:

He will probably take an assistant GM position with an established GM. One who is confident in their track record and one that won't feel threatened by his presence.

[Eckesg1]

Originally Posted by pcola

He is garnering respect from NFL front offices. He has interviewed the last 2 years. No reason those interviews would stop since he is apparently a great interview.

If he comes here, it would be to work with a coach that is short term (only 2 years left), one that is replacing his entire staff and because they are waiting on the GM, all of the quality assistants who are not under contract will have plenty of offers. Not to mention the cap and free agent situation.

From the Jets point of view: this is a Jet move. Boom or Bust. It will make more headlines than any other GM hire. Probably ever. he could solve the OC problem with an innovative offensive mind.

From his perspective, if he comes here in a very challenging situation and he fails, he probably taints the entire CFL forever. Plus, no other front office may be willing to give him a second chance.

What will happen:

He will probably take an assistant GM position with an established GM. One who is confident in their track record and one that won't feel threatened by his presence.

If everybody thinks Rex is a buffoon as you claim, then Popp would get a pass because everybody would get the situation he's working in.

[pcola]

Originally Posted by Eckesg1

If everybody thinks Rex is a buffoon as you claim, then Popp would get a pass because everybody would get the situation he's working in.

I base my opinion on Rex strictly on how the team performs, how many games the offense couldn't score, how many time we were out of the game in the first half, his you tube videos, tattoos, and in-articulate press conferences.

What's really sad is, I think his best defensive game was the Houston game in 2009. Defense has regressed. The reason we are still highly ranked is because teams come into our games being ultra conservative knowing that we cannot score and we eventually turn the ball over multiple times.

If we had Luck throwi g the ball all over the place, our D would be ranked much longer.

[Eckesg1]

Originally Posted by pcola

I base my opinion on Rex strictly on how the team performs, how many games the offense couldn't score, how many time we were out of the game in the first half, his you tube videos, tattoos, and in-articulate press conferences.

What's really sad is, I think his best defensive game was the Houston game in 2009. Defense has regressed. The reason we are still highly ranked is because teams come into our games being ultra conservative knowing that we cannot score and we eventually turn the ball over multiple times.

If we had Luck throwi g the ball all over the place, our D would be ranked much longer.

1. Are you talking about the foot videos?

2. Really? Holding the 14-2 2010 Patriots to 21 points didn't impress you?

[pcola]

Originally Posted by Eckesg1

1. Are you talking about the foot videos?

2. Really? Holding the 14-2 2010 Patriots to 21 points didn't impress you?

Yes, the wins over the Patriots were awesome. But just the ferocity of Pace and Scott blitzing Schaub on every single snap. The D was unstoppable that day. They couldn't get first downs, didn't score until very late in the game.

After watching that game I thought we would lead the league in sacks.

And I have the 2010 Pats playoff game on the DVR. I watch it a lot. Love the Edwards flip at the end. Probably the best game of my lifetime with the 2002 GB and Ind games as close behind.

[Toooon]

No one questions Rex's credentials as a defensive coach, the question is whether he is a head coach. Four years in and we still seem to lead the league in 12 men on the field penalties and blown timeouts because the offense is confused about the play. At what point does that stuff get fixed? And I haven't even mentioned the handling of Sanchez, which is grounds for firing on its own.

[Eckesg1]

Originally Posted by Toooon

No one questions Rex's credentials as a defensive coach, the question is whether he is a head coach. Four years in and we still seem to lead the league in 12 men on the field penalties and blown timeouts because the offense is confused about the play. At what point does that stuff get fixed? And I haven't even mentioned the handling of Sanchez, which is grounds for firing on its own.

I don't remember that many of those to be honest. Maybe one or two, but not that many.

[DDNYjets]

Phuck it.

Count me in.

I'm jumpin on the Popp bandwagon.

[Ron Swanson]

Why do you guys want a guy from the CFL over an upcoming guy like Gamble (Idc if he didn't interview well, his resume says it all), Gaine, Seahawks guy, Dorsey, etc.