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Jordy · 01-12-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Conkboy

My opinion is Rex is not qualified which to me means he also in not qualified to be a head coach... However, you really are not making a commitment to a coach if you don't let him build his staff. If you don't do that, the writing is on the wall that he is not long for this job. It all goes back to should Rex stay or go? You allowing him to stay really should mean you allow him to build his coaching staff.

We would be so much better off if they just moved on from him already...

I agree with everything except that Rex got his chance last year with Sparano and it failed miserably as the guy who "had the mirror image of Rex's offensive philosophy" was a monumental disaster. And for that reason alone, the choice should not be his to make this year.

Conkboy · 01-12-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

I agree with everything except that Rex got his chance last year with Sparano and it failed miserably as the guy who "had the mirror image of Rex's offensive philosophy" was a monumental disaster. And for that reason alone, the choice should not be his to make this year.

You could argue for that reason alone he should be fired... Number 5 pick in the draft... just below average and a plateau in his career and you hire Tony ****ing Sporano to ruin him and your offense...

southparkcpa · 01-12-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Conkboy

You could argue for that reason alone he should be fired... Number 5 pick in the draft... just below average and a plateau in his career and you hire Tony ****ing Sporano to ruin him and your offense...

You forget...Chad did well under Tony. marks failings started WELL BEFORE Tony.

I do not like Sparano but Marks under performance is not his doing IMO.

C Mart · 01-12-2013, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by southparkcpa

You forget...Chad did well under Tony. marks failings started WELL BEFORE Tony.

I do not like Sparano but Marks under performance is not his doing IMO.

Sparano wasnt the OC with Chad..Henning was. Again, different coaching positions, different responsibilities.

southparkcpa · 01-12-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

Sparano wasnt the OC with Chad..Henning was. Again, different coaching positions, different responsibilities.

I hate Sparano, I'm simply trying to understand what the JETS were thinking. perhaps I'm wrong but didn't Chad help Mark off season to understand Sparano offense.

My premise is management did not put a system in place in 2011 2012 that would complement Mark. It goes well beyond Sparano but clearly includes Sparano.

Jet Blast · 01-12-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Cavanaugh and Sparano were Rex choices.

I think he should stay away from the offense.

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In theory, if you believe Rex is your coach beyond 2013, then yes let him pick his assistants.

BUT....if you allow the new GM to pick the assistants you immediately improve your chances next year. One, we all know the GM will be here so when he brings in assistant coaches, they will be here long term. So you can improve the quality of coaches you can recruit. Plus, it gets the rebuilding process started because these assistants will be able to evaluate the entire roster over the course of a year vice 30 days after next season is over.

Plus, the GM may be able to bring in the potential new HC.

But as usual, we are not making the most optimal decisions here. The decision to let Rex hire the coach is a statement to Rex that he is 100% responsible for this team next year.

For the record, I believe Woody should have fired Rex with Tanny. I also happen to agree that Rex crapped the bed by hiring Cavanaugh and Sparano. But I didn't make my point clear. If Rex is going to be the coach, then let him choose his staff like other coaches do. Don't tie his hands behind his back. If you don't trust him to make the right choices then fire his ass. Live or die by your decision Woody- you're either all in or all out. I don't like this wishy-washy, half-assed sh!t.

RMJK · 01-12-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by southparkcpa

You forget...Chad did well under Tony. marks failings started WELL BEFORE Tony.

I do not like Sparano but Marks under performance is not his doing IMO.

more like JJ Watts hitting him and batting down his throws.

pcola · 01-12-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Blast

For the record, I believe Woody should have fired Rex with Tanny. I also happen to agree that Rex crapped the bed by hiring Cavanaugh and Sparano. But I didn't make my point clear. If Rex is going to be the coach, then let him choose his staff like other coaches do. Don't tie his hands behind his back. If you don't trust him to make the right choices then fire his ass. Live or die by your decision Woody- you're either all in or all out. I don't like this wishy-washy, half-assed sh!t.

Good point. I guess we all are projecting that the Jets won't have a good season next year so the choice to fire Rex will be obvious next Jan.

Of course, Woody is not expecting a bad season next year so he is going to give Rex everything he needs, his choice of coaches and talented GM. If this is in fact the way Woody is thinking, and the Jets are as bad as some of us fear, Rex won't make it to December.

Conkboy · 01-12-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Blast

For the record, I believe Woody should have fired Rex with Tanny. I also happen to agree that Rex crapped the bed by hiring Cavanaugh and Sparano. But I didn't make my point clear. If Rex is going to be the coach, then let him choose his staff like other coaches do. Don't tie his hands behind his back. If you don't trust him to make the right choices then fire his ass. Live or die by your decision Woody- you're either all in or all out. I don't like this wishy-washy, half-assed sh!t.

I against I · 01-12-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Also, it would be hard to believe that after interviewing a dozen or so candidates, that Scott Cohen would emerge as the best choice.

the best choice to keep staus quo.

Jordy · 01-12-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Blast

For the record, I believe Woody should have fired Rex with Tanny. I also happen to agree that Rex crapped the bed by hiring Cavanaugh and Sparano. But I didn't make my point clear. If Rex is going to be the coach, then let him choose his staff like other coaches do. Don't tie his hands behind his back. If you don't trust him to make the right choices then fire his ass. Live or die by your decision Woody- you're either all in or all out. I don't like this wishy-washy, half-assed sh!t.

That's fair and I agree, except I don't trust Rex to choose any staff members on offense.

pcola · 01-12-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

That's fair and I agree, except I don't trust Rex to choose any staff members on offense.

When Woody made the decision to allow Rex to choose his assistants, I believe we were only replacing Sporano, Cavanaugh, and one defensive assistant because Thurman was going to replace Pettine. We already had a replacement for Westoff.

Since then, we have seen the defensive side of the ball lose multiple coaches. I honestly believe that if Woody had this to do all over, he would have fired Rex.

It's one thing to have faith in a HC (with $6M left on his contract), it's another to watch all of HIS defensive guys jump at the first opening - hell even Buffalo!

C Mart · 01-12-2013, 08:24 PM

Santonio Holmes ‏@santonio10
Boy, this game got me on the edge of my seat!

McGinley · 01-12-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

Santonio Holmes ‏@santonio10
Boy, this game got me on the edge of my seat!

That's just the ganja, Tone.

hatnlvr · 01-12-2013, 08:34 PM

What ever happened to Norv for OC???? We seemed to be going backwards in the process.

C Mart · 01-12-2013, 08:36 PM

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What ever happened to Norv for OC???? We seemed to be going backwards in the process.

He's the Browns OC

hatnlvr · 01-12-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

He's the Browns OC

Exactly! While we muddle through this process and continually miss out on candidates.

southparkcpa · 01-12-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hatnlvr

Exactly! While we muddle through this process and continually miss out on candidates.

the GM in NY reports to REX.

hatnlvr · 01-12-2013, 08:49 PM

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the GM in NY reports to REX.

Yeah it appears that way

C Mart · 01-12-2013, 08:51 PM

Jay Feely ‏@jayfeely I'm telling you what Tucker did, sneaking a practice kick in between periods in OT, is against NFL rules.

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C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	Santonio Holmes ‏@santonio10 Boy, this game got me on the edge of my seat!

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hatnlvr Jets Fan for Life! All Pro Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,267	What ever happened to Norv for OC???? We seemed to be going backwards in the process.

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C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	Jay Feely ‏@jayfeely I'm telling you what Tucker did, sneaking a practice kick in between periods in OT, is against NFL rules.