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johnnysd · 01-16-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth

@Steiny31
It sounds like the final four are: Kahn, Idzik, Sundquist and Cohen.

Idzik or Khan for me personally.

Cohen just wont frickin go away will he?

Sourceworx · 01-16-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth

@Steiny31
It sounds like the final four are: Kahn, Idzik, Sundquist and Cohen.

Idzik or Khan for me personally.

I wouldn't mind Khan at all, but I'd prefer Sundquist or Idzik.

Jordy · 01-16-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth

@Steiny31
It sounds like the final four are: Kahn, Idzik, Sundquist and Cohen.

Idzik or Khan for me personally.

Hopefully, Cohen is truly #4 on the list. I'd be satisfied with either of the first 3.

Sourceworx · 01-16-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnysd

Cohen just wont frickin go away will he?

I think he's the fallback should the others turn them down.

Seth · 01-16-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Braumeister

I wouldn't mind Khan at all, but I'd prefer Sundquist or Idzik.

Only reason I am not liking Sundquist so much is because I hate the idea of hiring a retread.

Seth · 01-16-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Braumeister

I think he's the fallback should the others turn them down.

Which according to the media would be everybody...including Cohen himself!

Jordy · 01-16-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnysd

Cohen just wont frickin go away will he?

LOL. I get that same feeling. He's like a photo bomber in the GM picture.

Sourceworx · 01-16-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth

Only reason I am not liking Sundquist so much is because I hate the idea of hiring a retread.

I don't have an issue with it, in his case. He did a good job in Denver.

Seth · 01-16-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Braumeister

I don't have an issue with it, in his case. He did a good job in Denver.

He had one great draft, but aside from that it is sort of average. I also feel he may have been Shan's whooping boy.

Jordy · 01-16-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Braumeister

I think he's the fallback in case the roof caves in.

Fixed.

eaglenj · 01-16-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Braumeister

If it's true that the finalists are Khan, Cohen, and Idzik (and I take everything that's reported with a mountain of salt at this point), then I agree.

Khan is strictly a cap guy. Cohen is strictly a scout.

Idzik's a bit of both.

So what you are saying is that in the last 7 years of working for the steelers Khan never sat in draft or personnel meetings?

To take that a step further, the GM has to rely on his scouts to do their job, he cant run the entire FO and also handle the detail-oreientated aspect of scouting players. Do we really believe in his time in Pitts he didnt realize how to do that?

Its the GMs job to set a macro-level vision and then ensure that it gets implemented by the people they hire. Whether his background is as a scout or on the business side, a guy like Khan has been part of a good organization for a long time, I find it hard to believe he would be considered as a top NFL exec if he hadnt picked up some nuances of the player personnel side of things.

daburghjet · 01-16-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth

Only reason I am not liking Sundquist so much is because I hate the idea of hiring a retread.

Saw a good point made about "retreads." Moving from Coordinator to HC or Front Office to GM comes with a totally different set of responsibilities, and the positive thing about hiring someone that has been in that position before is that they will hopefully learn from mistakes they made as they were learning the ins and outs of the position.

Still, I'm personally in favor of Idzik but would be happy with someone like Sundquist who did have some success and has experience in the job.

Ron Swanson · 01-16-2013, 11:26 AM

Steiny's not reliable guys. Remember that. Last year "Tim Tebow won't be a Jet." All season "Ricky Sapp will play and will play A LOT!" a week or so ago "My guy @Brian_Bassett (another hack) better get credit for nailing the Gamble-Jets story!"

Sourceworx · 01-16-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Fixed.

I think it's safe to say if all others turn them down, then the roof has caved in. Unless Woody is completely in love with Cohen, I think he knows there will be a huge backlash if Cohen is the GM.

Seth · 01-16-2013, 11:27 AM

I am sick of morons like Cimini labeling Idzik as a ''cap guy''. He has experience in coaching and as a scout. Why do none of these beat writers do the slightest bit of research?

Jordy · 01-16-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth

He had one great draft, but aside from that it is sort of average. I also feel he may have been Shan's whooping boy.

Actually, that's very accurate. Outside of 2006, his draft record is pretty unimpressive.

Sourceworx · 01-16-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by eaglenj

So what you are saying is that in the last 7 years of working for the steelers Khan never sat in draft or personnel meetings?

To take that a step further, the GM has to rely on his scouts to do their job, he cant run the entire FO and also handle the detail-oreientated aspect of scouting players. Do we really believe in his time in Pitts he didnt realize how to do that?

Its the GMs job to set a macro-level vision and then ensure that it gets implemented by the people they hire. Whether his background is as a scout or on the business side, a guy like Khan has been part of a good organization for a long time, I find it hard to believe he would be considered as a top NFL exec if he hadnt picked up some nuances of the player personnel side of things.

I agree. But his specialty is in contract negotiations/cap management.

I think shying away from cap guys just because Tanny was one is foolish. If his decision-making and thought process are sound, he'll be fine.

revischrist · 01-16-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Hopefully, Cohen is truly #4 on the list. I'd be satisfied with either of the first 3.

Agreed. I am hoping that the only reason he is still on the list is that he is an inside guy and they don't want to eliminate a guy that is going to stay in the organization.

Jordy · 01-16-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

Agreed. I am hoping that the only reason he is still on the list is that he is an inside guy and they don't want to eliminate a guy that is going to stay in the organization.

That may be a first for us.

revischrist · 01-16-2013, 11:39 AM

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That may be a first for us.

It wouldn't be fair if I didn't acknowledge the few times we actually agree.

01-16-2013, 11:26 AM	#33
Ron Swanson Rookie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 741	Steiny's not reliable guys. Remember that. Last year "Tim Tebow won't be a Jet." All season "Ricky Sapp will play and will play A LOT!" a week or so ago "My guy @Brian_Bassett (another hack) better get credit for nailing the Gamble-Jets story!"

01-16-2013, 11:27 AM	#35
Seth One does not simply learn to butt fumble instantaneously. Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 261	I am sick of morons like Cimini labeling Idzik as a ''cap guy''. He has experience in coaching and as a scout. Why do none of these beat writers do the slightest bit of research?