The Fat man "Idzik is Tannenbaum" nothing has changed

[DDNYjets]

Geez. Even Ira hates the move.

LOL.

[revischrist]

Originally Posted by canadianjetsfan

Think whatever you want about Francessa, but the truth hurts and Francessa has done nothing but voice the reality of the situation which is that nothing has changed.
Thanks Woody, have a nice week end up in the hamptons.

LOL, no nothing has changed, SOJFs like you are still sad and pathetic.

[Dirtstar]

Originally Posted by parcellsguy

Rapid Reaction: Is Idzik a good hire?
By Rich Cimini

Quick takeaways on the news that the Jets have decided to hire former Seattle Seahawks vice president of football administration John Idzik as their new general manager:

1. What they did: The Jets veered off course. They set out trying to find a GM with deep roots in scouting and personnel, but they chose a longtime executive who made his bones on the business side, dealing mostly with salary-cap management and contract negotiations. The Jets will present Idzik as a hybrid -- he attended personnel meetings in Seattle -- but that's not his area of expertise. Like former GM Mike Tannenbaum, he's a capologist making the crossover. They needed a leader who sees the world from a scout's perspective, not an executive who learned his football in a room.

2. Narrow view: This was a shortsighted decision. Owner Woody Johnson wanted someone to clean up the messy cap situation ($19.4 million over) and the number of bloated contracts. The real problem is a thin roster. One of the candidates told me the Jets need to replace 12 starters, conservatively. Yes, the Jets have contract issues, but they're in this cap predicament because of poor talent evaluations, overvaluing players such as Mark Sanchez, Santonio Holmes and David Harris. They're paying Holmes like a top-10 receiver; any personnel man worth his stopwatch will tell you he's not even in the top 20.

3. Outside the box: This move smacks of the 1980s Jets, when they always left the league scratching its head because of against-the-grain decisions. Seven teams were in the GM market. The first six opted for executives with personnel backgrounds; the Jets went the other way. Are they smarter than everyone else? As one longtime GM told me, "This isn't the time to put a cap guy in charge."

4. The Rex factor: The big question is, what does this mean for Rex Ryan? In the short term, it could mean more influence in personnel matters. Like Tannenbaum, Idzik probably will lean heavily on Ryan for input. Ryan can pick defensive linemen (Muhammad Wilkerson), but that's about it. We all know he has a blind spot when it comes to offense. He pushed to draft Sanchez in 2009 when the scouts wanted Josh Freeman. This sets up a potentially dangerous situation: The coach should coach, the GM should pick the players -- except, in this case, the GM has never picked players. How do they fill the void? Maybe assistant GM Scott Cohen sticks around in a personnel role.

[ssp242]

hands. His disdain for the Jets is sickening. Turn him off.

[Borgoguy]

Originally Posted by Dirtstar

LMAO!

[JetFuel]

Originally Posted by canadianjetsfan

Think whatever you want about Francessa, but the truth hurts and Francessa has done nothing but voice the reality of the situation which is that nothing has changed.
Thanks Woody, have a nice week end up in the hamptons.

Francessa is a POS he is anti jet so no matter who they hire he would try to ridicule. He called the jets a sewer what kind of reporting is that ?

The jets wont go on his show and have shut him out off all things jets so the only thing he does is spew garbage.

[Jet Nut]

Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet

Believe what you want but he did spend 11 years on personnel issues & evaluations for the Bucs. Just sayin'...... I mean why let facts get in the way of ripping the Jets!

I love the foolish idea that the cap isn't important.

[Todd Burger]

Originally Posted by canadianjetsfan

Think whatever you want about Francessa, but the truth hurts and Francessa has done nothing but voice the reality of the situation which is that nothing has changed.
Thanks Woody, have a nice week end up in the hamptons.

+ 1,000
Nothing will change as long as Rex is in charge and Francesa knows that.

[canadianjetsfan]

Originally Posted by revischrist

LOL, no nothing has changed, SOJFs like you are still sad and pathetic.

Albert Einstein once said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
Think about this quote for a second and ask yourself, does this quote apply to the way the Jets are being run?

[augustiniak]

Originally Posted by Jet Nut

I love the foolish idea that the cap isn't important.

the jets have been criticized and mocked for the sanchez and holmes deals. then they turn around and say the cap isn't important.

[John_0515]

Ink isn't dry on the paper yet, and he's getting ripped.

I'll reserve judgement for about 2 years unless he does something really aggregious.

[canadianjetsfan]

Originally Posted by JetFuel

Francessa is a POS he is anti jet so no matter who they hire he would try to ridicule. He called the jets a sewer what kind of reporting is that ?

The jets wont go on his show and have shut him out off all things jets so the only thing he does is spew garbage.

But if the Jets would have hired someone who actually knows football, he would acquiesce.

[revischrist]

Originally Posted by canadianjetsfan

Albert Einstein once said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
Think about this quote for a second and ask yourself, does this quote apply to the way the Jets are being run?

Idzik is not Mr. T. They are different people with different talents. Just because Idzik is smart does not mean he will make the same mistakes mr. t. Idzik played football and coached football. He isn't just a suit.

But you are already brainwashed by fatcessa to believe that Rex is in charge with ZERO proof, so there is no point in having a conversation with you.

Did Rex get a 5 year extension? Do you even know his contract status? he is a lame duck head coach that will need to win this year to stay. He had ZERO input in this decision and was just lucky he wasnt fired already. But keep thinking that Rex, with 1 year left on his deal, is somehow running this organization. Pathetic.

[Borgoguy]

[Jet Nut]

Originally Posted by canadianjetsfan

Think whatever you want about Francessa, but the truth hurts and Francessa has done nothing but voice the reality of the situation which is that nothing has changed.
Thanks Woody, have a nice week end up in the hamptons.

Really?

What has Idziks responsibilities been over the years?

Which players has he recommended to others involved in drafts? Or who not to draft?

Has he been involved?

How do you or Francessa know?

When he claimed that Rex used injuries as an excuse to save his butt, when he didn't say that.

When he said no one wants the Jets job this hire and then the rip job is reality?

sure, go cry somewher

[Jet Nut]

Originally Posted by augustiniak

the jets have been criticized and mocked for the sanchez and holmes deals. then they turn around and say the cap isn't important.

They?

Fans who are clueless?

No team would ever say that

[Jet Nut]

Why whenever the Jets make a move does it seem like some clown without a clue and a handful of posts start whining about someone they dont have a clue about?

[JetFuel]

Originally Posted by canadianjetsfan

But if the Jets would have hired someone who actually knows football, he would acquiesce.

Are you kidding me? This POS does not care who gets hired he would trash them anyway regardless of whom they hire.

You need to realize he has an agenda against the Jets.

[GenoT]

Originally Posted by canadianjetsfan

Albert Einstein once said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
Think about this quote for a second and ask yourself, does this quote apply to the way the Jets are being run?

Let us know when your brain thaws, my suggestion is stick your head in the oven for a couple of hours.Thank You

[sec.101row23]

People are nuts if they think that Tanny and Idzik are the "same" Look at Tanny's work history and duties:


Pittsfield Mets
Tannenbaum was an intern for the Pittsfield Mets during the 1991 season.[3]
[edit]Cleveland Browns
Tannenbaum worked in the Cleveland Browns' personnel department acting as an assistant under Bill Belichick.[1]
[edit]New Orleans Saints
Tannenbaum worked as an intern in the New Orleans Saints personnel department while he attended law school[1] In 1996, he worked for the team as a player personnel assistant.[1]
[edit]New York Jets
Tannenbaum was hired by the New York Jets on February 19, 1997 as the Director of Player Contract Negotiations.[1] Over the years, Tannenbaum served in numerous administrative positions with the team including Senior Vice President of Football Operations and Assistant General Manager.
Tannenbaum succeeded Terry Bradway as the team's new general manager in 2006.[4][5]
Tannenbaum signed a contract extension with the team through 2014.[6]
Following the last game of the 2012 NFL regular season, Jets owner Woody Johnson announced that Tannenbaum would not return for the 2013 season.[7]


Now look at the work history of Idzik:

John Idzik begins his sixth season with the Seahawks after joining the club on February 16, 2007. With Seattle, Idzik oversees player negotiations, the team’s compliance with the NFL salary cap, player personnel transactions, all football operations budgets, staff and team contracts, team travel and most aspects of the day-to-day football operations while also remaining active in player evaluations. In addition, he serves as the club’s primary liaison to the NFL Office and represents the club at League meetings.

Prior to joining the Seahawks, Idzik spent three seasons as Senior Director of Football Operations for the Arizona Cardinals, helping to build an eventual NFC champion. Idzik entered the NFL in 1993 with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He spent 11 years with the Buccaneers, first as a Pro Personnel Assistant and then was elevated to Director of Football Administration in 1996 and Assistant General Manager in 2001. Prior to his tenure with the Buccaneers, Idzik spent the 1991-92 seasons as a graduate assistant coach at Duke University, where he assisted with the offensive line and running backs. In 1990 he was the offensive backfield coach for the Aberdeen Oilers (Scotland) of the British American Football League. Idzik’s first coaching assignment came in 1982 as receivers coach at the State University of New York at Buffalo.

Raised in a football family, Idzik’s father, also John, was the head coach of the Aberdeen club after serving as an NFL assistant coach for the Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Colts, Philadelphia Eagles, and N.Y. Jets. They became one of the NFL’s few father-son Super Bowl champions in 2003 when the younger Idzik’s Buccaneers won Super Bowl XXXVII, as his father was the offensive backfield coach of the Super Bowl V champion Baltimore Colts.

A native of Detroit, Idzik graduated with magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa honors from Dartmouth College in 1982 earning a bachelor’s degree in mathematics, where he also played wide receiver for the Ivy League Champion Big Green. He later earned a master’s degree in liberal studies from Duke University in 1992.



Now tell me they are the "same"..