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King Pepa · 01-18-2013, 06:46 PM

Football discussion Shocking huh??

What are going to be The challenges we will have going from Ground n pound to a WCO. How would our existing roster adapt.

escamoter2 · 01-18-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by King Pepa

Football discussion Shocking huh??

What are going to be The challenges we will have going from Ground n pound to a WCO. How would our existing roster adapt.

Time to bring back Chad Pennington.

bigdanNJ · 01-18-2013, 06:48 PM

first the jets need to draft or pick up in FA some quality players in the skilled positions. we have no playmakers right now. its going to take some time. ive been waiting for 30 yrs, so a few more yrs in no biggie.

johnnysd · 01-18-2013, 06:52 PM

I would think it would start with cutting Sanchez, Greene

dustykeller · 01-18-2013, 06:54 PM

signing Reggie Bush (a pass catching, speedy/playmaking HB) would be a good start.

But our cap is such a mess, I doubt we'll be going that route.

rextilleon · 01-18-2013, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by King Pepa

Football discussion Shocking huh??

What are going to be The challenges we will have going from Ground n pound to a WCO. How would our existing roster adapt.

Well its all about the QB. I think its going to take at least two years. First you have to find a competent QB---very difficult.

jetswin · 01-18-2013, 06:55 PM

I'm not too worried about a transition period in that the Jets offense is transitioning from nothing.

New coaches, new front office, to sit back and enjoy the ride is my plan.

SCITSCAT · 01-18-2013, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by escamoter2

Time to bring back Chad Pennington.

DDNYjets · 01-18-2013, 06:56 PM

I'm not thrilled about the WCO. But after these past two years, I will take any offense I can get.

To answer your question, I don't see Sanchez excelling if we run a WCO b.c the only thing worse than his accuracy is his decision making. I think McElroy might do better in a WCO but I do not see him as a long-term answer.

Alex Smith would be perfect but I do not want to give up picks for him.

No matter who we get to play QB, we are going to have to invest in and improve our OL. That is the key IMO. We can live with average RBs if we improve our OL.

What is going to be interesting is to see what we do with the TEs and WRs. With little money to spend in FA I do not expect much changes in personnel. Will Keller be back? I doubt it. I think Holmes and Kerley will be good in any offense. It will be interesting to see how much improvement Hill makes. He could add a really great dimension to the offense, but that is asking a lot of him.

Mornhinweg has his work cut out for him.

Nike · 01-18-2013, 06:57 PM

sanchez will be asked to take a pay cut if not he wont be given a legit chance at the starting qb job and he will sit and rot and we will go with either mcelroy tebow or ?.

shuler82 · 01-18-2013, 06:57 PM

I think Greene is gone. We'll need an RB who can catch passes. McKnight showed some flashes... not saying he's our feature back at all, but he could be in line for a bigger role.

Keller could come back. You need pass catching TEs and he certainly fits the bill.

Holmes and Kerley would seem suited for the WCO. Hill, not so much. Not sure what we'll do with Edwards.

I think a change at QB is a coming..

Nike · 01-18-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shuler82

I think Greene is gone. We'll need an RB who can catch passes. McKnight showed some flashes... not saying he's our feature back at all, but he could be in line for a bigger role.

Keller could come back. You need pass catching TEs and he certainly fits the bill.

Holmes and Kerley would seem suited for the WCO. Hill, not so much. Not sure what we'll do with Edwards.

I think a change at QB is a coming..

agree. edwards become a major contributor to this offense.

Redlichtie · 01-18-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdanNJ

first the jets need to draft or pick up in FA some quality players in the skilled positions. we have no playmakers right now. its going to take some time. ive been waiting for 30 yrs, so a few more yrs in no biggie.

Would see Reggie Bush as a great fit moving forward though not sure if we can afford him. at 28 I think Bush still has several good years in him and his receiving skills make him a very attractive option.I see a bit of a Thomas Jones style situation where he could be poised to have some of his bigger seasons as a late bloomer.

Wouldn't be shocked if the player to gain the most here with this move is Joe McKnight.I think he's been criminally under utilised up until now and going into a contract year I can see a scenario where he breaks out at last.

Would love to see Tavon Austin in green.electrifying player in a not-too-dissimilar mode to DeSean Jackson.

I can't see all 3 of the above happening but each alone isn't beyond the realms of possibility.Certainly agree we need playmakers.

Magnus · 01-18-2013, 07:01 PM

Didn't Schottenheimer run a west coast offense?

iahawkeyejet · 01-18-2013, 07:04 PM

I personally think the WCO offense is an ideal fit for most of our WR's, with the exception of Hill, but Hill can be the guy used to stretch the field vertically while guys like Holmes, Kerley and Gates work underneath.

I think McKnight is a fit for the WCO, Greene definitely is not, and I don't think Powell is too great of a fit either. A RB like Andre Ellington or Joseph Randle could be options in the 3rd round of the draft to help here.

The obvious elephant in the room is QB. Sanchez isn't an ideal fit for any scheme, but least of all the WCO. Timing and accuracy are key, and we don't have that QB on the roster. Ryan Nassib in round 2 could work in a WCO, but the best fit is Geno Smith, in my opinion. Worth the # 9 pick? Some think he'll go #1, some wouldn't touch him at 9. I don't know if they will or won't, and can't decide if they should or shouldn't yet, but the chances they will are more likely now than they were yesterday for Smith.

Redlichtie · 01-18-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnus

Didn't Schottenheimer run a west coast offense?

Pretty sure Paul Hackett did too

Yankeejet22 · 01-18-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnus

Didn't Schottenheimer run a west coast offense?

No. I believe it was the Coryell Offense.

johnnysd · 01-18-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnus

Didn't Schottenheimer run a west coast offense?

No he didnt, neither did Sparano. They ran the Erhardt system for the most part.

ryan10 · 01-18-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shuler82

I think Greene is gone. We'll need an RB who can catch passes. McKnight showed some flashes... not saying he's our feature back at all, but he could be in line for a bigger role.

Keller could come back. You need pass catching TEs and he certainly fits the bill.

Holmes and Kerley would seem suited for the WCO. Hill, not so much. Not sure what we'll do with Edwards.

I think a change at QB is a coming..

this!!!

Kentucky Jet · 01-18-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rextilleon

Well its all about the QB. I think its going to take at least two years. First you have to find a competent QB---very difficult.

well lets see, how long did it take Wilson, Luck and RG3? Even Sanchez did fine in year 1. While it is difficult it can be done.

01-18-2013, 06:56 PM	#9
DDNYjets Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,579	I'm not thrilled about the WCO. But after these past two years, I will take any offense I can get. To answer your question, I don't see Sanchez excelling if we run a WCO b.c the only thing worse than his accuracy is his decision making. I think McElroy might do better in a WCO but I do not see him as a long-term answer. Alex Smith would be perfect but I do not want to give up picks for him. No matter who we get to play QB, we are going to have to invest in and improve our OL. That is the key IMO. We can live with average RBs if we improve our OL. What is going to be interesting is to see what we do with the TEs and WRs. With little money to spend in FA I do not expect much changes in personnel. Will Keller be back? I doubt it. I think Holmes and Kerley will be good in any offense. It will be interesting to see how much improvement Hill makes. He could add a really great dimension to the offense, but that is asking a lot of him. Mornhinweg has his work cut out for him. Last edited by DDNYjets; 01-18-2013 at 06:59 PM.

01-18-2013, 06:46 PM	#1
King Pepa All League Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 0	WCO- How are we going to make the Transition Football discussion Shocking huh?? What are going to be The challenges we will have going from Ground n pound to a WCO. How would our existing roster adapt.

01-18-2013, 06:48 PM	#3
bigdanNJ Veteran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,166	first the jets need to draft or pick up in FA some quality players in the skilled positions. we have no playmakers right now. its going to take some time. ive been waiting for 30 yrs, so a few more yrs in no biggie.

01-18-2013, 06:52 PM	#4
johnnysd Founding Member of the Geno Bandwagon Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,166	I would think it would start with cutting Sanchez, Greene

01-18-2013, 06:54 PM	#5
dustykeller America's Hat Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 734	signing Reggie Bush (a pass catching, speedy/playmaking HB) would be a good start. But our cap is such a mess, I doubt we'll be going that route.

01-18-2013, 06:55 PM	#7
jetswin stumblin mumblin butt fumblin Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Westchester Co. Posts: 35,514	I'm not too worried about a transition period in that the Jets offense is transitioning from nothing. New coaches, new front office, to sit back and enjoy the ride is my plan.

01-18-2013, 06:57 PM	#10
Nike Fix it or sell it Woody! Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,386	sanchez will be asked to take a pay cut if not he wont be given a legit chance at the starting qb job and he will sit and rot and we will go with either mcelroy tebow or ?.

01-18-2013, 06:57 PM	#11
shuler82 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: hoboken Posts: 5,685	I think Greene is gone. We'll need an RB who can catch passes. McKnight showed some flashes... not saying he's our feature back at all, but he could be in line for a bigger role. Keller could come back. You need pass catching TEs and he certainly fits the bill. Holmes and Kerley would seem suited for the WCO. Hill, not so much. Not sure what we'll do with Edwards. I think a change at QB is a coming..

01-18-2013, 07:01 PM	#14
Magnus Veteran Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,769	Didn't Schottenheimer run a west coast offense?

01-18-2013, 07:04 PM	#15
iahawkeyejet On Iowa All League Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,675	I personally think the WCO offense is an ideal fit for most of our WR's, with the exception of Hill, but Hill can be the guy used to stretch the field vertically while guys like Holmes, Kerley and Gates work underneath. I think McKnight is a fit for the WCO, Greene definitely is not, and I don't think Powell is too great of a fit either. A RB like Andre Ellington or Joseph Randle could be options in the 3rd round of the draft to help here. The obvious elephant in the room is QB. Sanchez isn't an ideal fit for any scheme, but least of all the WCO. Timing and accuracy are key, and we don't have that QB on the roster. Ryan Nassib in round 2 could work in a WCO, but the best fit is Geno Smith, in my opinion. Worth the # 9 pick? Some think he'll go #1, some wouldn't touch him at 9. I don't know if they will or won't, and can't decide if they should or shouldn't yet, but the chances they will are more likely now than they were yesterday for Smith.