Idzeks Biggest Decision - What to About Revis...

[section314]

The biggest challenge that Idzik faces is to significantly upgrade the talent level on the Jets. Explain to me again how trading your best player accomplishes that? Stop this nonsense, please.

[CanadaSteve]

Originally Posted by patman

What team out there is going to pay 15 mill a year for Revis and trade you three players? The market is not as big as you think, when peppers was a FA they were only a few teams that could afford him and back then the cap was going up every year.

That is why there may be a possibility in trading Cromartie. Yes, he has two years left at around $10 million a season, but his dead money in each of those seasons is only $1.25 million. He has HUGE roster bonus' each year, so a contract could be reworked to extend it 1-2 years, and then his hit for each year is only around $6-7 million. It is possible.

I think it is more realistic that you might get a 2nd and a conditional 4th that could turn into another 2nd or 3rd for Revis, with the new team understanding he could be a one year rental player if he is going to play hardball and want his $15 million per season.

[CanadaSteve]

Originally Posted by section314

The biggest challenge that Idzik faces is to significantly upgrade the talent level on the Jets. Explain to me again how trading your best player accomplishes that? Stop this nonsense, please.

You mean the best player that missed the entire season and the defense didn't miss a beat? Yes, indeed stop this nonsense.

[tedtedthefootballhead]

I'd love to keep Revis on the team....but if trading him brings us a windfall of players/draft picks ala the Herschel Walker comparison and some Super Bowl trophies....yeah I want that before I die.

EDIT: Besides....I don't have a Revis jersey to mourn

[Maury77]

Originally Posted by Dirtstar

Sell high, buy low.


meaning: trade Cro, resign Revis.

That is the smart play.

[jetlifer]

I don't care about the specific player, I care about the Jets being a winning franchise. We have Revis now and we have won nothing.

If Idzik's strategy is to leverage this great player into multiple picks/players which leads to championships then I'm all for it.

Not saying I want Revis to go but I want a winning franchise and every option should be considered.

[GenoT]

Originally Posted by Winstonbiggs

Since we can't fix the QB position and will have to draft and develop a QB the year after next we might as well keep him. Don't see anyone giving us a heist for Revis.

Teams are going deep into the playoffs by getting production out of young players who are talented and on their first contracts. We aren't going to get a Hershel Walker type deal for Revis. The model has changed.

If a team like a Tampa is convinced revis is healthy, a 1st and 3rd isn't out of the realm of possibility. Warmack and Dysert.I would fly through the roof, and i don't think thats an unreasonable asking price

[Jet Black]

Originally Posted by K-Met57

did you really just say for a SUPER BLUE CHIP PROSPECT AND SOME OTHER TOP PROSPECTS? ok...u got me...Revis for Luck and the colts next 9 first rounders... lol

r u 12?

Again with the insults; sigh. No I am not 12 nor am I a wise ass.

When the draft rolls around there will be players available who are difference makers, but you know what? In addition just HAVING picks give us options whether to make a trade, move up or down and get more picks etc. That is what a sharp GM would do.

Maybe it is time we began to take a page from Belichek and starting thinking about the what is best for the TEAM. If Revis is will to sign a cap friendly contact that would be great but I don't see it. He wants to get PAID, period.

When he walks in a year and we have nothing to show for it lets have this conversation again. Guys like you never have anything constructive to add to the discussion....

[Jet Black]

Originally Posted by jetlifer

I don't care about the specific player, I care about the Jets being a winning franchise. We have Revis now and we have won nothing.

If Idzik's strategy is to leverage this great player into multiple picks/players which leads to championships then I'm all for it.

Not saying I want Revis to go but I want a winning franchise and every option should be considered.

Jetlifer, you hit the nail on the head in every way. Great post....

[Jet Black]

Originally Posted by CanadaSteve

You mean the best player that missed the entire season and the defense didn't miss a beat? Yes, indeed stop this nonsense.

These guys have all bought into the Revis is GOD propaganda; you have to wonder if his agent posts on this board....

[DDNYjets]

I wonder if Revis' status played a role in the interviews. Wonder if some candidates discussed his situation and how they would handle it.

[Long Suffering Jets Fan]

Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

Trade him now or hes walking. Thats the options.

Sign him now is another option. That means trade Cromartie while his value is at an all time high.

[Long Suffering Jets Fan]

Originally Posted by Jet Black

Interesting... hadn't really thought of that. What do you think he would bring in a trade?

All pro CB, gotta be worth a mid number one and a third in this years draft, is my guess. If you take a one this year, you can probably get a 2 thrown in next year.

[patman]

Originally Posted by GenoT

If a team like a Tampa is convinced revis is healthy, a 1st and 3rd isn't out of the realm of possibility. Warmack and Dysert.I would fly through the roof, and i don't think thats an unreasonable asking price

You think they will be ok with paying him 15 mill? They are already paying Jackson and Carl Nicks over 10 mill a season, Freeman will be a FA next year if they add Revis that will be 4 guys making 40% of the cap for the whole team.
If I was them I would sign Grimes and Moore away from the division rival for the same 15 mill and keep the picks for cheap labor to balance out the 15 mill for just two starters .

[Savage69]

Originally Posted by Jet Black

These guys have all bought into the Revis is GOD propaganda; you have to wonder if his agent posts on this board....

Deion Sanders a first ballot HOF'er was on 5 different teams in his career. Revis will probably be on at least 3 before he retires.. He can walk after next year and he wants close to QB type money.. I can't see any team giving up high picks for him when they can wait and give up nothing..

[Nike]

Originally Posted by Jet Black

I love Revis but if we could bring back a package of draft picks and or some young players, I would be inclined to trade him... Assuming teams would be willing to give up much from someone coming off a season ending injury. What say my fellow Jet Posters?

please stop posting.

idziks biggest and most important decision is who will be the starting qb of this team. a new gm doesnt trade the best cb in football for i dont know players.

[Caught_Jetster]

Its nice to have a guy who is the best at his position on the roster, it really is.

But unless that position is QB then its kind of a Pyrrhic victory - look at the final 4 left in the SB - how many elite CB's can you see?

Baltimore lost their No.1 guy early.
New England has Talib and a 7th round rook
Atlanta have Asante Samuel who is way past his best
SF have a terrific front 7 but their DB's are the weakness.

I'm not sure how much value Cro and Revis bring - but this year should be all about clearing out high ticket items and rebuilding through the draft - 2013 is a write off anyhow.

[GenoT]

Originally Posted by patman

You think they will be ok with paying him 15 mill? They are already paying Jackson and Carl Nicks over 10 mill a season, Freeman will be a FA next year if they add Revis that will be 4 guys making 40% of the cap for the whole team.
If I was them I would sign Grimes and Moore away from the division rival for the same 15 mill.

I know there are teams of a #1 Corner. with revis,there getting the best, i have no idea what these teams are willing to pay to get revis. Its hard for me to believe with the money being thrown around,that there isn't a team that would work something out.

[nycdan]

Originally Posted by Nike

please stop posting.

idziks biggest and most important decision is who will be the starting qb of this team. a new gm doesnt trade the best cb in football for i dont know players.

Actually, he's doing just fine.

Why would the QB decision have any bearing on the Revis decision (if there is even one to be made)? That's a wasted sentence right there.

As for your last comment, it's an opinion your entitled to, but nothing more. A new GM will do whatever he deems improves the team by his criteria, including trading a top player. One of the benefits of importing from outside the organization is he should have no ties/loyalties to current players that impair his objectivity.

Simply put...there should be NO sacred cows. Fact is we have one in Rex, and probably another in Sanchez because of salary cap issues, but beyond that, anything should be fair game.

If someone is willing to overpay for 'the best CB in the game' then I'm all ears.

[patman]

Originally Posted by Long Suffering Jets Fan

All pro CB, gotta be worth a mid number one and a third in this years draft, is my guess. If you take a one this year, you can probably get a 2 thrown in next year.

It is not that his value is not worth it as a football player, it is. He is the best at his position in the nfl. But for a team looking for a top corner do you want to pay his salary and give up the picks. If he was making 7 mill a year for the next 5 years, the jets would get 2#1s plus more. But the guy wants more 12% of the total cap and he is coming off an ACL and is only signed for one year.