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Cleansweep2013 · 01-20-2013, 06:34 PM

Im not defending Cav, or saying lee is going to be better.. but its a position coach.. If a position coach needs to coach a player how to play his own position we have much bigger problems.. I dont know who the qb coach is for patriots, or denver, indy, ect.. But I will bet they made very little difference in the lives of their qb..

Ven0m · 01-20-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

So then the INT machine/choke master/cluster f**k known as Ryan Fitzpatrick was just a fluke?

Can't turn **** into something other then ****. Fitzpatrick had 6 good games before the league caught up to him (and that was before Lee even started to work there). He just managed to con the Bills into a horrible contract before then.

iahawkeyejet · 01-20-2013, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Terrible hiring.

But it gets worse . . .

This might serve as proof that we are stuck with Tebow.

I was wondering who would be the first to come to this conclusion.

Dreamers · 01-20-2013, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

So then the INT machine/choke master/cluster f**k known as Ryan Fitzpatrick was just a fluke?

Fit was already in place so it is hard to say he ruined him. Guys like Henne and Beck on the other hand.

He did do a good job with getting a lot out of Chad though.

Ruby2 · 01-20-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

So then the INT machine/choke master/cluster f**k known as Ryan Fitzpatrick was just a fluke?

He was a 7th round pick out of harvard.

The fact that he started for 3 years is miraculous.

You want to knock this hire, ok sure, I dont really care either way considering that position coaches are over rated anyways in my book, but to knock him for Fitzpatrick is just something I can't agree with.

Ven0m · 01-20-2013, 06:40 PM

Beck was benched pre-Lee, FWIW.....

Ruby2 · 01-20-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleansweep2013

Im not defending Cav, or saying lee is going to be better.. but its a position coach.. If a position coach needs to coach a player how to play his own position we have much bigger problems.. I dont know who the qb coach is for patriots, or denver, indy, ect.. But I will bet they made very little difference in the lives of their qb..

This.

Ron Swanson · 01-20-2013, 06:43 PM

This is a bad hire

Eckesg1 · 01-20-2013, 06:44 PM

I like this hire because Idzik wants to create a system like they have in Seattle with the read option. David Lee worked with running QBs in Miami so he would be a good option

DDNYjets · 01-20-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iahawkeyejet

I was wondering who would be the first to come to this conclusion.

Is it not a legitimate hypothesis?

BTW, I used "might" therefore no conclusion was made. But don't let me stop you from coming to conclusions.

Sourceworx · 01-20-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

So then the INT machine/choke master/cluster f**k known as Ryan Fitzpatrick was just a fluke?

Fitz is not an NFL-starting caliber QB.

And before people start tearing into me, neither is Sanchez.

iahawkeyejet · 01-20-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Is it not a legitimate hypothesis?

BTW, I used "might" therefore no conclusion was made. But don't let me stop you from coming to conclusions.

No, it isn't.

Jetworks · 01-20-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleansweep2013

Im not defending Cav, or saying lee is going to be better.. but its a position coach.. If a position coach needs to coach a player how to play his own position we have much bigger problems.. I dont know who the qb coach is for patriots, or denver, indy, ect.. But I will bet they made very little difference in the lives of their qb..

A position coach's importance is relative to the player(s) being coached. Sanchez could benefit from a quality coach, Brady, not so much. Look at the success the DL had under Dunbar this year.

C Mart · 01-20-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleansweep2013

Im not defending Cav, or saying lee is going to be better.. but its a position coach.. If a position coach needs to coach a player how to play his own position we have much bigger problems.. I dont know who the qb coach is for patriots, or denver, indy, ect.. But I will bet they made very little difference in the lives of their qb..

One major responsibility is identifying and correcting fundamental flaws/techniques. Position coaches are extremely important and shouldn't be dismissed as not important.

Inspector Oofus · 01-20-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman Harris

Dude, I was thinking the same thing! lol

Tinstar · 01-20-2013, 06:51 PM

This is an awesome hire and i don't know that much about this cat. What i do know is when the Miami Dolphins had nothing going for them he was smart enough to figure out a concept that allowed them to be somewhat successful.

By the way, when everyone was patting Sparano on the back for being named the Jets OC last yr, what everyone forgot to realize is that it was this guy who allowed Saprano to look good.

Think about this when you critize this hire. Consider what you saw last yr on offense and understand what kind of coach it would take to make that look decent.

Awesome Hire by the Jets. He should help Starting QB Greg McElroy improve his game, LOL.

Jordy · 01-20-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

So then the INT machine/choke master/cluster f**k known as Ryan Fitzpatrick was just a fluke?

Actually, his TO ratio got better and his QB rating went up with Lee last year.

JetsFanatic · 01-20-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

Then, OH YEAH!!. He did wonders with Fitzpatrick.

He did do a nice job with a 7th round pick from Harvard.

C Mart · 01-20-2013, 06:55 PM

For those ripping him for Fitz. Look at the 2nd half of the '11 season Fitz sucked and Lee wasn't even his coach in '11

Jordy · 01-20-2013, 06:57 PM

Blows my mind that anyone can call this a bad hire after 4 years of Matt Cavanaugh.

01-20-2013, 06:34 PM	#21
Cleansweep2013 1 more year until Sanchez is delievering pizzas on sundays.. Rookie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 600	Im not defending Cav, or saying lee is going to be better.. but its a position coach.. If a position coach needs to coach a player how to play his own position we have much bigger problems.. I dont know who the qb coach is for patriots, or denver, indy, ect.. But I will bet they made very little difference in the lives of their qb..

01-20-2013, 06:40 PM	#26
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	Beck was benched pre-Lee, FWIW.....

01-20-2013, 06:43 PM	#28
Ron Swanson Rookie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 741	This is a bad hire

01-20-2013, 06:44 PM	#29
Eckesg1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,352	I like this hire because Idzik wants to create a system like they have in Seattle with the read option. David Lee worked with running QBs in Miami so he would be a good option

01-20-2013, 06:51 PM	#36
Tinstar Saved,and Thankfull All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,444	This is an awesome hire and i don't know that much about this cat. What i do know is when the Miami Dolphins had nothing going for them he was smart enough to figure out a concept that allowed them to be somewhat successful. By the way, when everyone was patting Sparano on the back for being named the Jets OC last yr, what everyone forgot to realize is that it was this guy who allowed Saprano to look good. Think about this when you critize this hire. Consider what you saw last yr on offense and understand what kind of coach it would take to make that look decent. Awesome Hire by the Jets. He should help Starting QB Greg McElroy improve his game, LOL.

01-20-2013, 06:55 PM	#39
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,289	For those ripping him for Fitz. Look at the 2nd half of the '11 season Fitz sucked and Lee wasn't even his coach in '11

01-20-2013, 06:57 PM	#40
Jordy Keeping it real... Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tårnby, Denmark Posts: 23,145	Blows my mind that anyone can call this a bad hire after 4 years of Matt Cavanaugh.