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Jet Nut · 01-20-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

So then the INT machine/choke master/cluster f**k known as Ryan Fitzpatrick was just a fluke?

Right, because you could be a successful NFL QB with proper coaching.

Ryan Fitzpatrick was a top flight NFL prospect and it's on the QB coach to blow it.

persiussa · 01-20-2013, 07:38 PM

This is the first hiring I truly dislike. Either way I'm not gonna get upset about it. You never know maybe it will work out great.

persiussa · 01-20-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Nut

Right, because you could be a successful NFL QB with proper coaching.

Ryan Fitzpatrick was a top flight NFL prospect and it's on the QB coach to blow it.

That may be going to far. He was a pleasant surprise as a 6th round pick.

Jet Nut · 01-20-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

I'm sorry but I just don't like this hire.

I agree it is hard considering where we are coming from but for me it's like going from Schotty to Shades again.

I would have been happy with a no name QC guy from Green Bay.

I would be shocked if you liked any move the Jets make.

Jet Nut · 01-20-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by persiussa

That may be going to far. He was a pleasant surprise as a 6th round pick.

I just find it amazingly simple for people to think that a coaches ability is based on how good his QB plays only.

The thinking that leads people to think Rodgers QB QB coaches have to be better than Fitzpatricks.

NO one has a clue how much a particular QB coach helped or didnt help and added to a teams QB

DDNYjets · 01-20-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Nut

I would be shocked if you liked any move the Jets make.

If you have been reading this "unreadable" board, then you would know that this is the only hire I have knocked. I think the OC hire is a clear upgrade and I am waiting till the draft to see if I like Idzik.

This hire I have no problem calling from the jump. Just like the Sparano hire last year.

Conkboy · 01-20-2013, 07:47 PM

Wait until you guys see he we hire as the towel boy this year!!!

Jet Nut · 01-20-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

If you have been reading this "unreadable" board, then you would know that this is the only hire I have knocked. I think the OC hire is a clear upgrade and I am waiting till the draft to see if I like Idzik.

This hire I have no problem calling from the jump. Just like the Sparano hire last year.

You're a whiner, dont know how you can argue it.

C Mart · 01-20-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

If you have been reading this "unreadable" board, then you would know that this is the only hire I have knocked. I think the OC hire is a clear upgrade and I am waiting till the draft to see if I like Idzik.

This hire I have no problem calling from the jump. Just like the Sparano hire last year.

What exactly is it that you don't like about the guy as a QB Coach?

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 01-20-2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

What exactly is it that you don't like about the guy as a QB Coach?

The Jets hired him... That's all it takes for some...

persiussa · 01-20-2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Nut

I just find it amazingly simple for people to think that a coaches ability is based on how good his QB plays only.

The thinking that leads people to think Rodgers QB QB coaches have to be better than Fitzpatricks.

NO one has a clue how much a particular QB coach helped or didnt help and added to a teams QB

Far enough, good point. Sometimes the guy just doesn't have it. Fitzpatrick has had some really high ups and some pretty low downs since he was drafted. He's severely inconsistent.

detectivekimble · 01-20-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

What exactly is it that you don't like about the guy as a QB Coach?

He probably doesn't even know. That, or he'll just tell you that he wanted someone from GB, NO, NE, or Denver . . . even if the guy just wiped Aaron Rodgers' ass.

It's like when some people wanted Carmichael from NO to be the OC, even though they don't know jack **** about him.

DDNYjets · 01-20-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

What exactly is it that you don't like about the guy as a QB Coach?

I don't want anything to do with the wildcat.

And please don't try to tell me the wildcat has nothing to do with this hire. Rex thought Sparano would help with it, but then he realized that Sparano was riding Lee's coattails so now we go out and get Lee.

I think Sanchez sucks and I would cut him even with the cap hit just b.c I hate the idea of bringing him back this year. But I will say that he has been in a bad situation since Day 1 and the wildcat was part of that.

And aside from that, what QB has he coached or improved that I would want on my team? IMO, none.

And IMO there are only 3 QBs that are legitimate passers and runners that can actually win games doing it. RG3, Wilson and Kaep. I don't include Newton b.c he hasn't won. And none of them have proven longevity. So I don't care about the "new age" QB offense. Give me a pocket passer who is athletic enough to move when he needs to and I will be more than happy.

Untouchable · 01-20-2013, 08:05 PM

Are people really knocking Lee based on Fitzpatrick?

LOL

As someone else stated, Fitz was a 7th round pick out of Harvard for f*ck sake. It's amazing he ever even started a game, much less 3 1/2 seasons.

Untouchable · 01-20-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

And aside from that, what QB has he coached that I would want on my team?

I'd take Henne or a 38 year old Pennington over Sanchez.

Conkboy · 01-20-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

I don't want anything to do with the wildcat.

And please don't try to tell me the wildcat has nothing to do with this hire. Rex thought Sparano would help with it, but then he realized that Sparano was riding Lee's coattails so now we go out and get Lee.

I think Sanchez sucks and I would cut him even with the cap hit just b.c I hate the idea of bringing him back this year. But I will say that he has been in a bad situation since Day 1 and the wildcat was part of that.

And aside from that, what QB has he coached that I would want on my team?

How about you enlighten us all with how much wildcat the Bills ran last year!!!!
They guy designed a wing t offense from Arkansas that the Dolphins used with some moderate success and you decide to label him a wildcat QB...

Better yet how about you enlighten us to how much wildcat his starting QBs who he coached ran!

DDNYjets · 01-20-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite

The Jets hired him... That's all it takes for some...

You're right. But that's not me.

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Originally Posted by detectivekimble

He probably doesn't even know. That, or he'll just tell you that he wanted someone from GB, NO, NE, or Denver . . . even if the guy just wiped Aaron Rodgers' ass.

It's like when some people wanted Carmichael from NO to be the OC, even though they don't know jack **** about him.

Some detective you are.

When we were searching for our OC I actually posted that I would not automatically be in love with someone from those teams b.c I am not sure how much of their "genius" had to do with having a great QB. I completely understand that some QBs make their teams and coaches look much better than they are. Which is part of the reason why I actually like our OC hire despite Vick making him look bad the past two years.

DDNYjets · 01-20-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

I'd take Henne or a 38 year old Pennington over Sanchez.

I agree. Over Sanchez, I would. Doesn't mean I want any of them though.

Bleedgreen · 01-20-2013, 08:14 PM

He wasn't brought in here for Tebow or the Wildcat. Morhinweg wouldn't be here if that was the case. To me, he was clearly brought in here to work on Sanchez' mechanics. Starting with his wide feet separation (throwing base) and lack of follow through. The Jets are paying him 8.25 million. They are going to do whatever they can to get their moneys worth. If he's a mechanics guru, then this is an excellent hire. Especially in the accuracy department, which paramount in the WCO. The Jets need to continue supporting him by bringing in more receiving talent (including a RB), and a couple of Guards that have the speed and agility to pull. All of these moves and future moves on offense will be to support the WCO.

DDNYjets · 01-20-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Conkboy

How about you enlighten us all with how much wildcat the Bills ran last year!!!!
They guy designed a wing t offense from Arkansas that the Dolphins used with some moderate success and you decide to label him a wildcat QB...

Better yet how about you enlighten us to how much wildcat his starting QBs who he coached ran!

Bills don't have a HC obsessed with the wildcat and the fact that he lost Brad Smith. And they don't have Tim Tebow.

I will tell you what. Let's wait until one of Rex's pressers when he discusses the hire. Then we will see how justified my opinion/worries are.

01-20-2013, 07:38 PM	#62
persiussa All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,505	This is the first hiring I truly dislike. Either way I'm not gonna get upset about it. You never know maybe it will work out great.

01-20-2013, 07:47 PM	#67
Conkboy "All Conked Up" All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,525	Wait until you guys see he we hire as the towel boy this year!!!

01-20-2013, 08:05 PM	#74
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,403	Are people really knocking Lee based on Fitzpatrick? LOL As someone else stated, Fitz was a 7th round pick out of Harvard for f*ck sake. It's amazing he ever even started a game, much less 3 1/2 seasons.

01-20-2013, 08:14 PM	#79
Bleedgreen All League Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,655	He wasn't brought in here for Tebow or the Wildcat. Morhinweg wouldn't be here if that was the case. To me, he was clearly brought in here to work on Sanchez' mechanics. Starting with his wide feet separation (throwing base) and lack of follow through. The Jets are paying him 8.25 million. They are going to do whatever they can to get their moneys worth. If he's a mechanics guru, then this is an excellent hire. Especially in the accuracy department, which paramount in the WCO. The Jets need to continue supporting him by bringing in more receiving talent (including a RB), and a couple of Guards that have the speed and agility to pull. All of these moves and future moves on offense will be to support the WCO.