Now Ian O'Connor rips the Jets...when is enough enough?? - Page 2 - Jets Insider.com Forums

John_0515 · 01-25-2013, 12:15 PM

Any sports writer who thinks the Jets should keep Revis this season, and give him a mega contract doesn't know anything about football.

Revis is a luxury at this point. The necessity of a QB, OL, an offense in general (right?) and the goal to win games (not be the #1 defense) are the overriding factors in all of this. Whatever Revis gets the Jets will help.

Having a top 10 defense, and a top 10 offense will have us in playoffs every year.

Having a top 5 defense, and a bottom 5 offense, makes these threads possible.

JetFreak89 · 01-25-2013, 12:16 PM

O'Connor is the least biased writer of them all, if he is saying this it means something.

I really don't understand why people are so confused. It is damn near impossible to build a consistently Super Bowl worthy team without having a STRING of good drafts put together.

The last few years, the Jets have not been able to put together a string of good drafts.

In order to compensate for this, the Jets turned to FA signings to go for it all. The problem with that strategy is that it is very short term because the team operates under a salary cap.

The Jets went for it all from 2009-2012. We did not succeed. If Mark Sanchez would have turned into a franchise QB we MAY have been able to sustain some semblance of success. That didn't happen.

Now it is time to pay the piper. 2013-2014 will be correction years for going for it all in 2009-2012 and hopefully going forward we can string together a few good drafts to get us back on the right track.

revischrist · 01-25-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

You're joking, right?

The Colts and Redskins were in a rebuilding mode this year and they ended up in the playoffs. The Jets were rebuilding in Rex's first year and came close to the Super Bowl.

Rebuilding in the NFL is not the same as it is in Baseball. With a few breaks just about any team can go from 6-10 to 10-6. The only time you enter a season with a plan to "rebuild" and settle for losing 10-14 games is when you lose Peyton Manning and are angling for Andrew Luck.

SAR I · 01-25-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JonEJet

What a professional journalist...enough of these clowns.

They are right.

The Jets are playing you for a fool, not the media.

SAR I

JetsFanatic · 01-25-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

Not for nothing, but this is part of the reason why many of us were rooting for the Patriots to beat the Giants in past two SB's they played.

Perhaps many of you understand what it's like to be in this town during the dark days, and how we are treated by the press in comparison. The Jets are the dog that gets kicked.

But go root for the Giants... they are not our rival.

100% Correct!!!

JonEJet · 01-25-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SAR I

They are right.

The Jets are playing you for a fool, not the media.

SAR I

Good try hijacking this thread too

JetsFanatic · 01-25-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SAR I

The Jets are playing you for a fool

SAR I

It takes one to know one.

PatsFanTX · 01-25-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

The Colts and Redskins were in a rebuilding mode this year and they ended up in the playoffs.

Do the Jets have an Andrew Luck or RGIII on their roster?

DDNYjets · 01-25-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Do the Jets have an Andrew Luck or RGIII on their roster?

You know what he meant.

Rebuilding is not a death sentence. 2006 was supposed to be a rebuilding year and we made the playoffs. It isn't impossible. Although I think we are in for a very rough year.

Of course adding RG3 or Luck would help the cause.

TheBlairThomasFumble · 01-25-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

I stopped reading the newspapers and blogs etc a long time ago. These guys have the profesionalism of a high school news reporter. They break fictional stories with "anonymous sources" that turn out to be right as often as sideshowbob is right. They have learned that you can't sell papers talking positively about the Jets and instead have transformed themselves into deadspin/TMZ. They hope to parlay this into appearances on talk shows and eventually a TV/Radio show for themselves . Good old fashioned media is dead.

I come here for all my Jets news.

For actual analysis - critical and otherwise - by guys who played D3 football and have an actual understanding of x's and o's and thus don't need to write Jets soap opera pieces to keep their jobs, visit:

http://turnonthejets.com/

PatsFanTX · 01-25-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

You know what he meant.

Rebuilding is not a death sentence. 2006 was supposed to be a rebuilding year and we made the playoffs. It isn't impossible. Although I think we are in for a very rough year.

Of course adding RG3 or Luck would help the cause.

How many of the 22 Jets starters on offense and defense will be different next year?

John_0515 · 01-25-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

How many of the 22 Jets starters on offense and defense will be different next year?

More than half, I'd say.

intelligentjetsfan · 01-25-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JonEJet

That's your opinion...I bet Rex and Idzik aren't thinking next year is a rebuilding year.

If Idzik is not thinking that next season is a rebuilding year then the wrong man was hired for the position.

PatsFanTX · 01-25-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by John_0515

More than half, I'd say.

That's my point.

Last year the Colts turned over 15 out of their 22 starters, but they have a great QB.

Without a viable NFL QB, teams that turn over 50%+ of their roster are looking at a 4-6 win season.

Who knows, maybe the Jets find a sleeper QB in the 6th round.

Borgoguy · 01-25-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

That's my point.

Last year the Colts turned over 15 out of their 22 starters, but they have a great QB.

Without a viable NFL QB, teams that turn over 50%+ of their roster are looking at a 4-6 win season.

Who knows, maybe the Jets find a sleeper QB in the 6th round.

God knows we had one under center this past season.

John_0515 · 01-25-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

That's my point.

Last year the Colts turned over 15 out of their 22 starters, but they have a great QB.

Without a viable NFL QB, teams that turn over 50%+ of their roster are looking at a 4-6 win season.

Who knows, maybe the Jets find a sleeper QB in the 6th round.

Excellent statistic. I'd love for you to quote the source.

Jets will be in the basement of the AFCE next season if the offense remains where it is.

PatsFanTX · 01-25-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by John_0515

Excellent statistic. I'd love for you to quote the source.

Jets will be in the basement of the AFCE next season if the offense remains where it is.

I quoted myself.

John_0515 · 01-25-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

I quoted myself.

Exactly.

DDNYjets · 01-25-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by John_0515

Excellent statistic. I'd love for you to quote the source.

Jets will be in the basement of the AFCE next season if the offense remains where it is.

Honestly at this point I would sign for the #1 pick in 2014. It might pay to suck this year.

The Colts have sucked at the right time twice now.

Borgoguy · 01-25-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Honestly at this point I would sign for the #1 pick in 2014. It might pay to suck this year.

The Colts have sucked at the right time twice now.

We're going to suck anyway? Go the whole nine yards and really get serious about rebuilding.

01-25-2013, 12:15 PM	#21
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,122	Any sports writer who thinks the Jets should keep Revis this season, and give him a mega contract doesn't know anything about football. Revis is a luxury at this point. The necessity of a QB, OL, an offense in general (right?) and the goal to win games (not be the #1 defense) are the overriding factors in all of this. Whatever Revis gets the Jets will help. Having a top 10 defense, and a top 10 offense will have us in playoffs every year. Having a top 5 defense, and a bottom 5 offense, makes these threads possible.

01-25-2013, 12:16 PM	#22
JetFreak89 All League Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,343	O'Connor is the least biased writer of them all, if he is saying this it means something. I really don't understand why people are so confused. It is damn near impossible to build a consistently Super Bowl worthy team without having a STRING of good drafts put together. The last few years, the Jets have not been able to put together a string of good drafts. In order to compensate for this, the Jets turned to FA signings to go for it all. The problem with that strategy is that it is very short term because the team operates under a salary cap. The Jets went for it all from 2009-2012. We did not succeed. If Mark Sanchez would have turned into a franchise QB we MAY have been able to sustain some semblance of success. That didn't happen. Now it is time to pay the piper. 2013-2014 will be correction years for going for it all in 2009-2012 and hopefully going forward we can string together a few good drafts to get us back on the right track.