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Old 01-26-2013, 12:16 PM   #121
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Right now, while Revis is rehabbing, is the time to try to negotiate a long-term contract. The Jets can likely get him locked up for less now than he'll command a year from now. I don't think there's any reason to believe that he won't come back and dominate in 2013, he's got the work ethic and determination.

Izdik should call Revis' agents and start talks ASAP. The new GM needs to get this done.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:18 PM   #122
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Get real!
the guy is coming off an injury. you put the 60 million guar
on the table and see if he passes on it. if so ship his
ass out. we need a lot of help. one guy can't hold the
team hostage. not worth it.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:18 PM   #123
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I'm going to do that now. Seriously.

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:19 PM   #124
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Unpopular opinion coming:

Right now, while Revis is rehabbing, is the time to try to negotiate a long-term contract. The Jets can likely get him locked up for less now than he'll command a year from now. I don't think there's any reason to believe that he won't come back and dominate in 2013, he's got the work ethic and determination.

Izdik should call Revis' agents and start talks ASAP. The new GM needs to get this done.
If only that were true Buzz.. I agree 100% it's worth a shot though..
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:20 PM   #125
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The $$$$ Revis wants isn't worth it. Take away Brady how do the Pats do? Take away Revis how do we do? Enough said.
This argument again??? The Jets have plenty of money devoted to QB. Sanchez and Tebow just suck.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:21 PM   #126
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I understand, and have thought about that. Difference between them and us, is that we have a Pro Bowl Cornerback already, but zero offense to go along with our defense.

AND, if our offense was on the field more, the defense would have been ranked even higher.

We have no offense. They both do.
I absolutely agree but in my opinion Cromartie is the guy you trade as his value is not only at an all time high but also because he does not nearly have the same presence on the game and the team as Revis. Think about it how many special special defensive players the two Super Bowl teams have. Not only from a talent standpoint but also from their aura and effect on the others. Lewis, Reed of course and Willis and Justin Smith. You also got other guys in there as Ngata, Pollard or Whitner who just make the rest of the team so much better. Those guys in the end are the difference in my opinion for a great defense or just a very good one. Special players make the defense. Revis is clearly in that category, maybe not as a vocal leader but from his entire effect on the rest of the team.

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:22 PM   #127
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the guy is coming off an injury. you put the 60 million guar
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ass out. we need a lot of help. one guy can't hold the
team hostage. not worth it.
Let's see how he does at camp, that will tell us where he's at physically. If he's healthy, field offers for Cro and Revis then make a decision who stays and which goes.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:22 PM   #128
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The $$$$ Revis wants isn't worth it. Take away Brady how do the Pats do? Take away Revis how do we do? Enough said.
They won 11 games without Brady...
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:23 PM   #129
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This argument again??? The Jets have plenty of money devoted to QB. Sanchez and Tebow just suck.
While that is true the total money of Sanchez and Tebow doesn't equal the total of Revis and Cro ..
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:23 PM   #130
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If only that were true Buzz.. I agree 100% it's worth a shot though..
Yeah, they have to try, and it has to be real soon. If he asks for something like $20 million then you explore other options, but at least sit down and talk, this is one of the biggest decisions in franchise history.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:23 PM   #131
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Unpopular opinion coming:

Right now, while Revis is rehabbing, is the time to try to negotiate a long-term contract. The Jets can likely get him locked up for less now than he'll command a year from now. I don't think there's any reason to believe that he won't come back and dominate in 2013, he's got the work ethic and determination.

Izdik should call Revis' agents and start talks ASAP. The new GM needs to get this done.
I'm down for this, Buzz, but we're going to gut the team. We have to prepare for 2013 to be a very down year regardless. We're practically in full rebuild.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:24 PM   #132
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They won 11 games without Brady...
But got beat out for Div title by Chaddy and the Fins who were a 1-15 team the year before..
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:24 PM   #133
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I absolutely agree but in my opinion Cromartie is the guy you trade as his value is not only at an all time high but also because he does not nearly have the same presence on the game and the team as Revis. Think about it how many special special defensive players the two Super Bowl teams have. Not only from a talent standpoint but also from their aura and effect on the others. Lewis, Reed of course and Willis and Justin Smith. Those guys in the end are the difference in my opinion for a great defense or just a very good one. Special players make the defense. Revis is clearly in that category, maybe not as a vocal leader but from his entire effect on the rest of the team.
Also remember that Cro relies on his freakish athleticism - once that fades I don't expect Cromartie to be nearly as effective. Revis doesn't have the blazing speed or agility, he just positions himself and works off technique, something that will have way more longevity than Cro's game.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:26 PM   #134
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While that is true the total money of Sanchez and Tebow doesn't equal the total of Revis and Cro I don't belive..
Sanchez alone makes more than Brady, or least he did in 2012 I believe. People keep saying that Revis has prevented us from getting a good QB and pass rusher, but that's just not the case. The players at those positions aren't good
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:28 PM   #135
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Right now, while Revis is rehabbing, is the time to try to negotiate a long-term contract. The Jets can likely get him locked up for less now than he'll command a year from now. I don't think there's any reason to believe that he won't come back and dominate in 2013, he's got the work ethic and determination.

Izdik should call Revis' agents and start talks ASAP. The new GM needs to get this done.
And see what you can get for Cromartie at the same time while his value is at it's peak.

Also I think that is exactly what "Is Dick" is doing now. Getting leverage by letting Revis know he's' expendable while preparing an offer to resign him.
It's all a game and at the end of the day I believe (unless the Jets get an unbelievable deal) that Revis will be resigned.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:29 PM   #136
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But got beat out for Div title by Chaddy and the Fins who were a 1-15 team the year before..
And didn't make the playoffs in a very polarized AFC that year.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:29 PM   #137
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Sanchez alone makes more than Brady, or least he did in 2012 I believe. People keep saying that Revis has prevented us from getting a good QB and pass rusher, but that's just not the case. The players at those positions aren't good
If only that CBA for Rookies was around in 09..
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:30 PM   #138
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Sanchez alone makes more than Brady, or least he did in 2012 I believe. People keep saying that Revis has prevented us from getting a good QB and pass rusher, but that's just not the case. The players at those positions aren't good
Don't forget that David Harris is counting $13M against the cap this season. Based on his play, he's worth about $7-8 but people aren't burning down Florham Park for that - only for Revis, who is the best player on our roster by a landslide.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:33 PM   #139
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Right now, while Revis is rehabbing, is the time to try to negotiate a long-term contract. The Jets can likely get him locked up for less now than he'll command a year from now. I don't think there's any reason to believe that he won't come back and dominate in 2013, he's got the work ethic and determination.

Izdik should call Revis' agents and start talks ASAP. The new GM needs to get this done.
Yes.

I'm sorry, but you don't just trade HOF players. This guy isn't just a physical beast, but he's got a mental edge like Michael Jordan.

And no, Revis' contract isn't what would hold the Jets back. Stupid contracts like David Harris' and Santonio Holmes' are the problem. You can pay for greatness. You can't pay for mediocrity.
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While that is true the total money of Sanchez and Tebow doesn't equal the total of Revis and Cro ..
You're comparing two upper level starters with one lower level starter and one low level backup. Of course the two starters are going to earn more combined in that case.
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