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Old 01-27-2013, 05:15 PM   #321
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That would suck...we might go 6 and 10.


Any JETS fan that thinks Revis should get paid what he's asking is not looking at the cap and thinking in terms of 5 years. we will be a bottom tier team with a great CB. We can do that without Mevis.
I never said pay Revis. Keep him for 1 more year and let him earn his payday helping us get to 10-6 next year and back into the playoffs. Jets will have plenty of cap room in 2014 to go after another elite CB in FA or they can just trade a late rd pick for Aso.


Mevis wants to hold out of TC and preseason? Ok. The guy could literally drive straight from his house to Metlife Stadium in Sept and play at an elite level.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:16 PM   #322
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Have you found an independent analyst/expert who agrees with this?

I haven't , I say trade the MEVIS.


Found one

http://www.danpatrick.com/2013/01/24...t-trade-revis/

Guess it's smarter to keep him
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:19 PM   #323
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No, it's not because we've locked money up in them, it's because they suck and because we have zero depth and talent throughout the rest of the team. Make no mistake if Sanchez and Holmes and Keller and Greene were solid players and we had a good offense then extending Revis is a no brainer. But fact is they all suck. All of them. None are anywhere near what they are paid and expected to be. Mark is not a starting QB, so we need to find a new one. Holmes is not a #1 receiver, Keller is a one dimensional limited TE, Greene is a situational power back. We need to find quality replacements for all of them, as well as OL, LB, and S. To fill all these needs we need picks and time to develop them. Ain't no sense paying a CB top dollar for a team that's going to be rebuilding over the next 3 years when we can trade him for multiple high value picks to address all the holes.
Oh yeah, we are going to suck anyway so we might as well just trade away our best player in the history of the organization. Are you for real?

You DO NOT give up on a guy a truly GREAT player like Revis just because the rest of the team sucks. That's stupidity. That's booting him out the door for something that isn't his fault, although you'd like to blame him by the sounds of things.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:19 PM   #324
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Found one

http://www.danpatrick.com/2013/01/24...t-trade-revis/

Guess it's smarter to keep him
OK we found one. Michael Irvin. His rationale is absent of any football logic that addresses the cap, the future or real comparison.

I'll take Ditka and Tom Jackson's view instead.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:23 PM   #325
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OK we found one. Michael Irvin. His rationale is absent of any football logic that addresses the cap, the future or real comparison.

I'll take Ditka and Tom Jackson's view instead.
Of course you will, they agree with your point

However, the smart play is paying the man. Another 1st and 2nd if we can get trading for him is no guarantee that we get equal value

Also, you haven't even told me how we can afford to trade him seeing that if we do, it costs an additional $3 Million against the cap this year
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:26 PM   #326
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Lets just have the best CB in the world play for the league minimum. He has already made enough money. Hell, he should just be a good guy and play for free.

That's the only way people will be happy. It's greedy to want to get paid for what you are worth.
I dont think most people here have a HUGE problem with him wanting to get paid. The argument here is that this franchise isn't in the greatest position to pay him giving our roster and cap situation. I don't understand what is so hard to comprehend about that. Stop letting your emotions cloud your better judgement....
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:26 PM   #327
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Of course you will, they agree with your point

However, the smart play is paying the man. Another 1st and 2nd if we can get trading for him is no guarantee that we get equal value

Also, you haven't even told me how we can afford to trade him seeing that if we do, it costs an additional $3 Million against the cap this year
The 3 mil,is against the cap regardless so it is not an issue.

I say we try to get a top pick and an OLINE man or more.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:26 PM   #328
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Of course you will, they agree with your point

However, the smart play is paying the man. Another 1st and 2nd if we can get trading for him is no guarantee that we get equal value

Also, you haven't even told me how we can afford to trade him seeing that if we do, it costs an additional $3 Million against the cap this year
Good point.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:31 PM   #329
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I dont think most people here have a HUGE problem with him wanting to get paid. The argument here is that this franchise isn't in the greatest position to pay him giving our roster and cap situation. I don't understand what is so hard to comprehend about that. Stop letting your emotions cloud your better judgement....
There is no emotion whatsoever going into this. I'm ok with trading Revis. But what I am not ok with is trading him for picks. I want players, not picks. It's obvious that i have zero emotional attachment if I'm willing to trade him. That is all you pro "trade revis at any cost" supporters can say. This is what I think you are having a hard time comprehending.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:33 PM   #330
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The 3 mil,is against the cap regardless so it is not an issue.

I say we try to get a top pick and an OLINE man or more.
The $3 Million is additional

http://www.nyjetscap.com/darrellerevis.html
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:41 PM   #331
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Of course you will, they agree with your point

However, the smart play is paying the man. Another 1st and 2nd if we can get trading for him is no guarantee that we get equal value

Also, you haven't even told me how we can afford to trade him seeing that if we do, it costs an additional $3 Million against the cap this year
The ONLY truly stupid play is to "pay the man".

Please let us know at what number that even you would feel Revis becomes too expensive. "Pay him whatever it costs" is an intellectually dishonest position. Tell us where you would draw the line.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:01 PM   #332
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Spend your high draft picks and money on the D front 7 and suddenly your CB can be very effective without being pro-bowlers.
This is great advice, unfortunately Rex does not believe in this approach!!!!!!!!

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Old 01-27-2013, 06:02 PM   #333
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There is no emotion whatsoever going into this. I'm ok with trading Revis. But what I am not ok with is trading him for picks. I want players, not picks. It's obvious that i have zero emotional attachment if I'm willing to trade him. That is all you pro "trade revis at any cost" supporters can say. This is what I think you are having a hard time comprehending.
Players don't get traded for players. Not on this level of talent. You may as well start throwing pennies into the wishing well.

Not to mention - the only time players generally DO get traded for another - is when they're approaching contract years (such as revis) and they're generally being traded under the expectation that an extension will follow suite.

You don't really understand what you're talking about. Picks is the only thing we'll get.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:04 PM   #334
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Players don't get traded for players. Not on this level of talent. You may as well start throwing pennies into the wishing well.

Not to mention - the only time players generally DO get traded for another - is when they're approaching contract years (such as revis) and they're generally being traded under the expectation that an extension will follow suite.

You don't really understand what you're talking about. Picks is the only thing we'll get.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:09 PM   #335
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Players don't get traded for players. Not on this level of talent. You may as well start throwing pennies into the wishing well.

Not to mention - the only time players generally DO get traded for another - is when they're approaching contract years (such as revis) and they're generally being traded under the expectation that an extension will follow suite.

You don't really understand what you're talking about. Picks is the only thing we'll get.
Oh and we are not just talking about Joe Schmo getting traded. Glad you kept me updated about what I don't know. Thanks
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:35 PM   #336
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the dumb azz reporters always seem to think they have got their stories right. the only thing that can be said is, assuming their sources was highly placed, the jets themselves don't know what's what. very possible that all that info went out the door with tannenbaum.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:39 PM   #337
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The ONLY truly stupid play is to "pay the man".

Please let us know at what number that even you would feel Revis becomes too expensive. "Pay him whatever it costs" is an intellectually dishonest position. Tell us where you would draw the line.
He deserves to be paid as the highest corner in the game

If that is 13-14 Million, so be it...We won't be paying a QB big money for at least another 5 years
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:55 PM   #338
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When it comes to these media rag whiners' coverage of our NYJ...it's trash...and trashier.
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:00 PM   #339
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Manti Te'o, Lance Armstrong - there are consequences. Why not the NY sports 'writers'?
And that's the biggest problem with the beat writers today, they can publish whatever stories they want and they are not held accountable when they print a story that's false.
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:08 PM   #340
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C Mart has updated his post but I thought it was worth highlighting that this story written by Cannizzarro is an utter fabrication.



According to Manish and Cimini (I know, true journalists themselves worthy of Pulitzers) Tannenbaum picked the brains of confidantes on the REvis situation but never discussed trading him.



http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...to-knee-injury

Just more bullcrap and spin from the media quoting 'NFL sources', they have no credibility whatsoever, they just need to justify their existences.
What is so hard to believe that Tanny was kicking the tires on a trade. that is doing due diligence. What do you want your GM to do, close his eyes and wish for the best.
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