What is the most successful draft (any team, any year) in history?

[nycdan]

I think the Mike Haight draft might have actually been worse than the Roger Vick one.

[Beerfish]

Patriots.

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[WestCoastOffensive]

Originally Posted by nycdan

This. Nothing else really even comes close.

That 86 Niner draft got them 3 more super bowls. You should revise your comments.

[Untouchable]

Originally Posted by John_0515

1987 - NEW YORK JETS

RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 21 Roger Vick RB Texas A&M
2 42 Alex Gordon LB Cincinnati
3 75 Onzy Elam LB Tennessee State
5 129 Kirby Jackson DB Mississippi State
6 161 Tracy Martin WR North Dakota
7 187 Gerald Nichols DT Florida State
8 196 Eddie Hunter RB Virginia Tech
8 214 Mike Rice -- Montana
9 241 Ron McLean NT Cal State-Fullerton
10 268 Sid Lewis DB Penn State
11 300 Kirk Timmer LB Montana State
12 327 Bill Ransdell QB Kentucky

/Thread

Good God

Don't ever take me there again.

[revislsland]

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/09000d5d82861ca6#photo=4

Has that 2000 Jets draft at #9 all time

[nycdan]

Originally Posted by WestCoastOffensive

That 86 Niner draft got them 3 more super bowls. You should revise your comments.

Nope. Still not even close. The 49ers won 3 SBs because they had Montana and drafted Rice in the 85 draft.

86 draft had five nice players. Only two of them were pro-bowlers, Haley and Taylor. Rathman, McKyer and Roberts were nice pieces but despite it being an all-time great draft, I don't see it anywhere near the Steelers haul of 4 HOF players.

[WestCoastOffensive]

Originally Posted by nycdan

Nope. Still not even close. The 49ers won 3 SBs because they had Montana and drafted Rice in the 85 draft.

86 draft had five nice players. Only two of them were pro-bowlers, Haley and Taylor. Rathman, McKyer and Roberts were nice pieces but despite it being an all-time great draft, I don't see it anywhere near the Steelers haul of 4 HOF players.

Steve Wallace was a stud LT; and Taylor was as good as John Stallworth any day; Stallworth came up at at time when the NFL changed the rules to favor the WR; I don't understand why he's in the HOF frankly; they should apply the same criteria to Taylor since Rice is in the HOF...just stick him in there; he had a SB winning catch! Hayley has 5 rings. Griffin McKyer - started almost immediately and got 2 rings.

You need to rethink it.

[nycdan]

I'm not doubting how good the 86 draft was for the 49ers. You make good arguments and in terms of depth it was actually rather awesome. But I will just respectfully disagree with your position that its on par with the 74 Steelers.

Personally, I think Webster and Lambert are the two best players of those two drafts combined. Then you could debate Swann vs. Haley for #3 and #4. But that's only my opinion and definitely is subject to debate.

Also, I don't think Haley's 5 trips to the SB are distinctive since I believe all four of the Steelers went to 4 SBs. Regardless, # of SBs isn't really a measure of the player, is it?

FWIW, nfl.com ranked them here: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09...o&confirm=true

49ers came out #5 but since they combined the Cowboys 91/92 drafts, it probably should be #4.

[SCITSCAT]

Originally Posted by Mohegangreen

I think it was the Jets' Blair Thomas Draft...😏

Or Johnny Lam Bam Jones
or JJ Watts
or Ken Obrien over Marino
Or TE Kyle over Warren Sapp

[Dreamers]

Dallas 89, Carolina 1st draft, and SD 01 AND 04 come to mind.

[SCITSCAT]

Originally Posted by Dreamers

Dallas 89, Carolina 1st draft, and SD 01 AND 04 come to mind.

Dallas 89 was beautiful, believe they traded Herschell Walker for a bounty of pics that included:

Michael Irving, Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson, etc.. It was a draft like we should do with our #1 DB in the world. Wish we could get a bounty...

[Mohegangreen]

Originally Posted by SCITSCAT

Or Johnny Lam Bam Jones
or JJ Watts
or Ken Obrien over Marino
Or TE Kyle over Warren Sapp

In '86 we had the Mike Haight draft, that was an all time great, it's right up there with the Roger Vick draft in '87, the entire 80's was a disaster...

The torture never ends...

[crasherino]

Originally Posted by John_0515

1987 - NEW YORK JETS

RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 21 Roger Vick RB Texas A&M
2 42 Alex Gordon LB Cincinnati
3 75 Onzy Elam LB Tennessee State
5 129 Kirby Jackson DB Mississippi State
6 161 Tracy Martin WR North Dakota
7 187 Gerald Nichols DT Florida State
8 196 Eddie Hunter RB Virginia Tech
8 214 Mike Rice -- Montana
9 241 Ron McLean NT Cal State-Fullerton
10 268 Sid Lewis DB Penn State
11 300 Kirk Timmer LB Montana State
12 327 Bill Ransdell QB Kentucky

/Thread

Originally Posted by Untouchable

Good God

Don't ever take me there again.

It makes me sick. If there were a poster named Roger Vick, I'd ban his ass just on principle.

[WestCoastOffensive]

Originally Posted by nycdan

I'm not doubting how good the 86 draft was for the 49ers. You make good arguments and in terms of depth it was actually rather awesome. But I will just respectfully disagree with your position that its on par with the 74 Steelers.

Personally, I think Webster and Lambert are the two best players of those two drafts combined. Then you could debate Swann vs. Haley for #3 and #4. But that's only my opinion and definitely is subject to debate.

Also, I don't think Haley's 5 trips to the SB are distinctive since I believe all four of the Steelers went to 4 SBs. Regardless, # of SBs isn't really a measure of the player, is it?

FWIW, nfl.com ranked them here: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09...o&confirm=true

49ers came out #5 but since they combined the Cowboys 91/92 drafts, it probably should be #4.

Thanks Dan.

You still playing the bass?

[WestCoastOffensive]

Originally Posted by crasherino

It makes me sick. If there were a poster named Roger Vick, I'd ban his ass just on principle.

In Ancient Japan, carp would try to climb the Dragon Gate; a waterfall of tremendous volume and power. Legend is that by successfully climbing the falls, a carp could become a Moderator, meaning no one could ever ban them again.

This is the Sisyphean fate of Roger Vick.

[nycdan]

Originally Posted by WestCoastOffensive

Thanks Dan.

You still playing the bass?

Indeed I am. Gig about twice a year in the city. Listening to "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" as I type this which has one of the most enjoyable rolling bass lines out there.

Can't believe you remember that. Did I post a picture of my Ken Smith bass a few years ago or something like that?

[nycdan]

Originally Posted by WestCoastOffensive

In Ancient Japan, carp would try to climb the Dragon Gate; a waterfall of tremendous volume and power. Legend is that by successfully climbing the falls, a carp could become a Moderator, meaning no one could ever ban them again.

This is the Sisyphean fate of Roger Vick.

Mind....blown.

This board needs more of this and less OMGSanchezSux. Especially in the offseason.

[WestCoastOffensive]

Originally Posted by nycdan

Indeed I am. Gig about twice a year in the city. Listening to "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" as I type this which has one of the most enjoyable rolling bass lines out there.

Can't believe you remember that. Did I post a picture of my Ken Smith bass a few years ago or something like that?

Yeah, I have a mind that remembers all kinds of stuff...I think you talked it up a bit in one of those "Guitar" type threads.

Love the A-Bros! IMOER is A Minor, but they go the the relative C Major7 to get that Wes Montgomery type sound. (to my ears )

[Mohegangreen]

Originally Posted by nycdan

I think the Mike Haight draft might have actually been worse than the Roger Vick one.

Was just about to make the same observation, 86 and 87 by the Jets were probably the worst back to back drafts by a franchise in NFL history

[CanadaSteve]

Originally Posted by revislsland

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/09000d5d82861ca6#photo=4

Has that 2000 Jets draft at #9 all time

Hence, why in my first comment, I said this was probably one of the top ten draft years for any team of all time.

When you draft five guys in one year that all play 10 plus years in the NFL, you've done something right.