BREAKING:MARSHALL FAULK CALLS OUT PATRIOTS FOR CHEATING

[PMarsico9]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Yep, that crime was worse than the Black Sox scandel.

Taping from the sidelines instead of the press box is worse than throwing games for money.

Bountygate was less bad than Spygate since it had zero impact on wins and losses.

It's ridiculous that Belichick didn't get the penalties he did as well as be suspended for a year.

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Beerfish

He knew just how damaging they were. He knew that if a lawsuit was filed as a result they could be used as clear cut evidence of misconduct that could get the league in big trouble.

I'm surprised that an organization is or was allowed to destroy something that could become evidence in later actions.

This!!!!!

Are the rest of you INSANE!!!!!

People, especially lawyers like Goddell don't just destroy evidence that would exonerate a team and make the NFL look Good!!!!!

Good Grief!!!!

[PatsFanTX]

Originally Posted by PMarsico9

Bountygate was less bad than Spygate since it had zero impact on wins and losses.

Yep, having a HC and DC encouraging their players to purposely injure opposing players and then paying them to do so is "less bad" than taping opponents from the sidelines rather than the press box.

[PETER PAT]

Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan

Marshall Faulk: 'I'll never be over being cheated out of Super Bowl'
Jan 30
1/30/2013 9:24:28 AM

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"I understand Bill (Belichick) is a great coach," said Faulk. "But No. 13 (Kurt Warner) will tell you. Mike Martz will tell you. We had some plays in the red zone that we hadn't ran. I think we got to fourth down -- we ran three plays that we hadn't ran, that Mike drew up for that game - Bill's a helluva coach . . . we hadn't ran them the whole year (and the Patriots were ready for them)." Faulk stated that the only time those plays were practiced were at the walk-through.


http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescri...-/Default.aspx

Does he understand that the whole taping of the Rams walk through was a figment of a reporters imagination, who had to retract the whole story and admit he had no evidence when he wrote the story, and the story was made up. Walsh, said he never taped it, (and this is a guy, who at no point was looking to cover up anything) and he knew of no one else in the org who taped it, and he would have know if there was a tape of it. Goddell who overreacted to begin with stated he never saw a tape, and not one shred of evidence was ever proved of a walk through tape existed.

Faulk does even understand what the Pats were fined for, what the violations actually were. He did not know that the reported had to retract the story, and how the Herald admitted the story had no basis.

[The Boston Patriot]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Yep, having a HC and DC encouraging their players to purposely injure opposing players and then paying them to do so is "less bad" than taping opponents from the sidelines rather than the press box.

Why are you arguing with the JI trolls?

[canadianjetsfan]

It never fails, you Patriot trolls will never stop defending BB.
I say get over it and move on.
happy reading.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sport...thout-cheating

[southside]

Marshall actually played the game.

Marshall knows the difference between knowing how a play is defensed or not.

If he believes that (due to the coincidental story) the Pats did in fact video tape the walk through and (due to his years of HOF experience) comes to the conclusion that it's the reason that those 3 brand new plays were completely defensed which wouldn't have been possible otherwise...

Well then I'm going to believe Marshall and not a bunch of sissy apologists. They cheated. No one else was doing it. Get over it. And it's funny you say that the other coaches admitted to doing the same thing because I've never read one report that said as much... and EVEN if they did say it how would they know when they weren't able to actually see EXACTLY what the Pats were doing?

Logic and reasoning ability doesn't exist with you people.

[FlagmanL11]

Originally Posted by Warfish

So did many Yankees on the recent World Series teams, bagful of Lance Armstrongs the lot of them. Just cause they didn't fail a test doesn't mean they weren't juiced.

I don't see many calling for their titles to be all asterisked, although they certainly could warrant it.

There is no do over. They cheated, they won, it's done. A small vocal minority in New York won't change their legacy anymore than a small vocal minority in Boston might one day change the Yankees legacy over steroids.

Look forward. Not back IMO.

and when the small vocal minority in Boston speak, just say "Manny"

[Mohegangreen]

Mangini and Belichick were just about to kiss and make up and now they're back to square one again...What a shame...😝

[AFCEastFan]

Originally Posted by southside

Marshall actually played the game.

Marshall knows the difference between knowing how a play is defensed or not.

If he believes that (due to the coincidental story) the Pats did in fact video tape the walk through and (due to his years of HOF experience) comes to the conclusion that it's the reason that those 3 brand new plays were completely defensed which wouldn't have been possible otherwise...

Right. And he has no incentive to be self-delusional in an attempt to explain away why he blew his last chance to win a Super Bowl against a clearly inferior team.

[southside]

Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

Right. And he has no incentive to be self-delusional in an attempt to explain away why he blew his last chance to win a Super Bowl against a clearly inferior team.

I'll tell you who has more incentive to be delusional....

[SMC]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Yep, having a HC and DC encouraging their players to purposely injure opposing players and then paying them to do so is "less bad" than taping opponents from the sidelines rather than the press box.

But why destroy the evidence in Spygate but not in Bountygate?

That's the one thing no one has been able to explain.

The NFL keeps records of everything but in this solitary situation, for a reason Goodell refuses to provide, he decides to destroy the evidence.

[SMC]

Originally Posted by Warfish

Sure it is, unless you think the Pats were the only team who flaunted taping rules.

No, it's not. It's an absurd comparison.

The Pats taped the Rams walkthrough in the SB.

Did the Rams do the same? Did the Rams tape the Pats practices.

Unless your answer is "yes" your whole argument gets blown up.

That said, I agree with you that Spygate doesn't matter now. What's interesting is that PLAYERS are the ones who keep bringing it up.

[AFCEastFan]

Originally Posted by SMC

The Pats taped the Rams walkthrough in the SB.

Please call John Tomase ASAP. He would like his reputation back.

[AFCEastFan]

Originally Posted by southside

I'll tell you who has more incentive to be delusional....

Since the Patriots have the hardware and not Faulk and his overrated team, I would respectfully disagree.

[Mohegangreen]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Yep, having a HC and DC encouraging their players to purposely injure opposing players and then paying them to do so is "less bad" than taping opponents from the sidelines rather than the press box.

The walkthrough was taped from the press box, nice try, though

[southside]

Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

Since the Patriots have the hardware and not Faulk and his overrated team, I would respectfully disagree.

Last I checked Faulk has the hardware from 1999.

[SCITSCAT]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Good. Anytime Spygate gets any exposure I am happy.

We need to hold Goodell just as responsible as the Pats. The coverup is just as bad, if not worse, than the crime.

Yes, and it is criminal.

[intelligentjetsfan]

It's amazing how some posters continue to miss the point on this issue.

The patriots were warned by several teams to stop filming the opposing sidelines. It was not just the Jets and Mangini who complained. Other teams including the packers and lions all threatened to expose them if they did not stop. If all of the other teams were doing it, as some here have driveled, how could they realistically complain to the commissioner?

Again, this issue is most certainly not just a Jets issue; Rams fans have a right to be upset (just think about the Rams fans who spent thousands on going to that Super Bowl only to see a fraudulent product). Anyone who competed against the patriots, directly or indirectly, were affected by their cheating.

And again, if the Patriots did nothing wrong how do you explain the denials and destroyed tapes? What would be the need to do either? How do you explain the severe fines and loss of draft picks?

[SCITSCAT]

Originally Posted by SMC

But why destroy the evidence in Spygate but not in Bountygate?

That's the one thing no one has been able to explain.

The NFL keeps records of everything but in this solitary situation, for a reason Goodell refuses to provide, he decides to destroy the evidence.

Yep.

Better to destroy the tape then deal with the real problem.