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ASG0531 · 02-01-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

I agree, no intelligent successful head coach would hire a family member as an assistant coach in ANY Capacity:

Mike- Kyle Shanahan
Jim Mora- Jim Mora Sr.

and then there is this:
Bill Belichick and Steve Belichick

New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick announced some new responsibilities for coaches Thursday and there is a notable addition to the staff in 2012 -- Belichick's son. and has been named a Patriots coaching assistant.

I am sure there are plenty more.

LOL, the kid basically cut game film for the players and ran coffee. Not even remotely comparable to those other examples.

Ven0m · 02-01-2013, 01:19 PM

I wouldn't have an issue with Rob coming aboard, his resume speaks for itself and I don't really get the 'fueling the circus' stuff considering positional coaches almost never speak to the media. You're hiring him to a position where he never has to talk to Cimini, Mehta, ect.

Garcia is done as a player, and as pointed out it would be counterproductive to name him as a coach. Nevermind, who knows if that's something Garcia would even want.

Jet Nut · 02-01-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

I agree, no intelligent successful head coach would hire a family member as an assistant coach in ANY Capacity:

Mike- Kyle Shanahan
Jim Mora- Jim Mora Sr.

and then there is this:
Bill Belichick and Steve Belichick

New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick announced some new responsibilities for coaches Thursday and there is a notable addition to the staff in 2012 -- Belichick's son. and has been named a Patriots coaching assistant.

I am sure there are plenty more.

Shula and his son worked together.

Jet Nut · 02-01-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ASG0531

LOL, the kid basically cut game film for the players and ran coffee. Not even remotely comparable to those other examples.

Exactly how Bellichich started his career.

What does what their responsibilities are have to do with the fact that they could get along and do what they were hired to do?

revischrist · 02-01-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ASG0531

LOL, the kid basically cut game film for the players and ran coffee. Not even remotely comparable to those other examples.

And you think it will end there? Belichick will settle for his own son to be a glorified ball boy? What happens when he gets promoted? will it be because he was good or because he was daddy's little boy? At least with Rob, he has shown to be a successful DC and he would be OVER-qualified as LB coach. So yeah, the situations are not comparable. Much more justified to give Rob a job.

leftturn3 · 02-01-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

Again, Mike and Kyle Shanahan work together. As did the Mora's and it appears the Belichicks.

Yes, but we are also talking about personalities that are night and day compared to the Ryan Brothers. I am not saying it can't work and if it does more power to the Jets, I am simply saying that they both have bigger than life personalities, it could be a ticking time bomb.

Borgoguy · 02-01-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LeonM

Rob getting all of the attention. I am not shocked. No thoughts on Jeff Garcia lol

I have a few thousand on his wife, Carmella DeCesare.

PavlovsDogs · 02-01-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

We're going to need a bigger clown car.

LOL!

chirorob · 02-01-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

I agree, no intelligent successful head coach would hire a family member as an assistant coach in ANY Capacity:

Mike- Kyle Shanahan
Jim Mora- Jim Mora Sr.

and then there is this:
Bill Belichick and Steve Belichick

New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick announced some new responsibilities for coaches Thursday and there is a notable addition to the staff in 2012 -- Belichick's son. and has been named a Patriots coaching assistant.

I am sure there are plenty more.

Hiring your kid where you are the boss, I can see. I will offer my own kids a job at some point.

Hiring your twin (not even little, but twin) brother to work directly under you and as a subordinate to you, when you both have huge personalities is a bad idea.

Eckesg1 · 02-01-2013, 02:32 PM

I just don't see Rob coming here to work under Dennis Thurman, let alone his brother. He wants to run a defense, not be a subservient.

Garcia, I don't care.

Apache 51 · 02-01-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeJam Football

Do we really need Rex more involved with the offense? That was the theme last offseason and we see how that turned out. I think the Jets need Rex to stay away from the offense and let Mornhenwig do his thing.

That's right. I heard 3 time SB winning HC Joe Gibbs this morning say when asked how do to contain guys like RGIII, answer I don't know I'm an Offense guy.

Apache 51 · 02-01-2013, 05:25 PM

Would love to have them both, Garcia for sure. Rob, might make things uncomfortable?

Mainejet · 02-01-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeJam Football

Do we really need Rex more involved with the offense? That was the theme last offseason and we see how that turned out. I think the Jets need Rex to stay away from the offense and let Mornhenwig do his thing.

And you say that without any mention of Mike Tannenbaum? The NYJ had zero talent on offense, especially after Holmes went down. Yet, you want to blame that 100% on Rex Ryan? I think you are bing a little hard on the guy.

You can only work what you are given for talent. Rex Ryan was given ZERO, a fat f*cking donut in regards to offensive players in 2012.

Mainejet · 02-01-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Snell41

Great idea, take him away from the one thing he's good at so he can assert his influence on the thing he's wosrt at. Come on man!

Excuse me, can you answer one question for me....

Is he, or is he not our HEAD COACH?!

If you think the answer to that question is YES, then he absolutely should be getting involved in something he was never familiar with prior to becoming the HC of the NYJ. That is the HC's responsibility.

SizzleBear287 · 02-01-2013, 06:36 PM

No to Rob Ryan, Rex is bad enough and I trust Rex more than Rob. Just look at why Jason Garrett said he fired Rob Ryan and the team Rob was with before the Cowboys hired him.

ice-coleman · 02-01-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

We're going to need a bigger clown car.

+100

MadCroatian · 02-01-2013, 07:05 PM

Whenever I hear Jeff Garcia speak I cannot believe he married such a hottie.
https://www.google.com/search?q=jeff+garcia's+wife

Foggy · 02-01-2013, 09:24 PM

I remember when Jeff Garcia was gay.

I guess he was cured...

ubrnostrum · 02-01-2013, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

No problem with the Jets hiring Rob. He is a good coordinatory and thinks like his brother. Perfect fit. It's not like other head coaches haven't hired siblings or sons (Kyle Shanahan).

As for Jeff Garcia, i have no problem bringing him.

The Shannahans and the Belichicks are NOT the Ryan Twins. It would be bedlam if Rob came here.

And if he's fit and keen to join, I say bring Jeff in for TC and see what happens. Couldn't really hurt, but I doubt it would happen.

RMJK · 02-01-2013, 10:10 PM

Rob is definitely qualified, so I say sure. He'll work hard and Rex trusts his Bro.

They only negative is the media will have a field day with Press conferences etc when things aren't going well. I just don't trust the media especially with the open style we have in NY.

02-01-2013, 01:19 PM	#22
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	I wouldn't have an issue with Rob coming aboard, his resume speaks for itself and I don't really get the 'fueling the circus' stuff considering positional coaches almost never speak to the media. You're hiring him to a position where he never has to talk to Cimini, Mehta, ect. Garcia is done as a player, and as pointed out it would be counterproductive to name him as a coach. Nevermind, who knows if that's something Garcia would even want.

02-01-2013, 02:32 PM	#30
Eckesg1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,352	I just don't see Rob coming here to work under Dennis Thurman, let alone his brother. He wants to run a defense, not be a subservient. Garcia, I don't care.

02-01-2013, 05:25 PM	#32
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,608	Would love to have them both, Garcia for sure. Rob, might make things uncomfortable?

02-01-2013, 06:36 PM	#35
SizzleBear287 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409	No to Rob Ryan, Rex is bad enough and I trust Rex more than Rob. Just look at why Jason Garrett said he fired Rob Ryan and the team Rob was with before the Cowboys hired him.

02-01-2013, 07:05 PM	#37
MadCroatian Dollar goes in... Soda comes out.... ALIENS! Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 601	Whenever I hear Jeff Garcia speak I cannot believe he married such a hottie. https://www.google.com/search?q=jeff+garcia's+wife

02-01-2013, 09:24 PM	#38
Foggy Lifer Waterboy Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 94	I remember when Jeff Garcia was gay. I guess he was cured...

02-01-2013, 10:10 PM	#40
RMJK Think outside the box. Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warwick, New York Posts: 15,781	Rob is definitely qualified, so I say sure. He'll work hard and Rex trusts his Bro. They only negative is the media will have a field day with Press conferences etc when things aren't going well. I just don't trust the media especially with the open style we have in NY.