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Winstonbiggs · 02-03-2013, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

He was 9-7,12-4 and 8-8 to me that's 2 winning and one ho hum.. If 9-7 isn't a winning season the Giants should not have won the Bowl in 2011..

Parcells was a compiler that's why he saddled us with CM.

32green · 02-03-2013, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Astoria

This guy was the absolute worst thing to happen to the Jets in the last 20 years.

Parcells. Bill Parcells? The worst thing...in 20 years?

Disagree.

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Wouldn't you say it's easier to get sacks as a DE then a DT ??

Good point.

nycdan · 02-03-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Wouldn't you say it's easier to get sacks as a DE then a DT ??

Of course. I did note the position difference. I don't disagree with the choice...just saying that it probably came down to one vs. the other at that point and that the metrics mentioned regarding Sapp (Pro bowls, 1st team All Pros and sacks) all were matched or exceeded by Strahan (I think he had quite a bit more sacks actually). DT vs. DE probably played a part but I imagine the Favre flop had some impact in some voters' minds as well.

Savage69 · 02-03-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Winstonbiggs

Parcells was a compiler that's why he saddled us with CM.

No argument there if we had Terrell Davis in 98 we would have made and won the bowl..

JetsFanatic · 02-03-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Winstonbiggs

Parcells was a compiler that's why he saddled us with CM.

You had to get him started, didn't you.

Winstonbiggs · 02-03-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JetsFanatic

You had to get him started, didn't you.

Savage is The Man!

Savage69 · 02-03-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nycdan

Of course. I did note the position difference. I don't disagree with the choice...just saying that it probably came down to one vs. the other at that point and that the metrics mentioned regarding Sapp (Pro bowls, 1st team All Pros and sacks) all were matched or exceeded by Strahan (I think he had quite a bit more sacks actually). DT vs. DE probably played a part but I imagine the Favre flop had some impact in some voters' minds as well.

That and Sapp has better teeth..

JetsFanatic · 02-03-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Winstonbiggs

Savage is The Man!

He goes way back just like myself. I actually remember Super Bowl III.

Savage69 · 02-03-2013, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JetsFanatic

He goes way back just like myself. I actually remember Super Bowl III.

I do more then remember it I made 10K betting on it..

Charlie Brown · 02-03-2013, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

No argument there if we had Terrell Davis in 98 we would have made and won the bowl..

Yea or Jim Brown, Gayle Sayers or Walter Payton!!! Hehehehehe

Carl Spackler · 02-03-2013, 09:12 AM

Warren Sapp getting in is a joke. Klecko was way better than him. this is a popularity contest.

Savage69 · 02-03-2013, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Yea or Jim Brown, Gayle Sayers or Walter Payton!!! Hehehehehe

Here's facts CB.. In 98 he avg 3.5 ypc with 8 td's with Vinny as QB with the best Jet QB stats ever.. With Neil O'Donnell in 97 Murrell had 3.6 and 7 td's on 69 less carries not to mention we didn't have Mawae or Fabini in 97.. Don't start with me CB..

Savage69 · 02-03-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Warren Sapp getting in is a joke. Klecko was way better than him. this is a popularity contest.

Well I wouldn't say Sapp was more popular then Strahan but I do agree Klecko should be in..

Carl Spackler · 02-03-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Well I wouldn't say Sapp was more popular then Strahan but I do agree Klecko should be in..

Klecko is the only guy in history to make the pro bowl at 3 different positions on the d line. Sapps claim to fame was being morbidly obese and having a big mouth

Savage69 · 02-03-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Klecko is the only guy in history to make the pro bowl at 3 different positions on the d line. Sapps claim to fame was being morbidly obese and having a big mouth

And being a hell of a DT..

Charlie Brown · 02-03-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Here's facts CB.. In 98 he avg 3.5 ypc with 8 td's with Vinny as QB with the best Jet QB stats ever.. With Neil O'Donnell in 97 Murrell had 3.6 and 7 td's on 69 less carries not to mention we didn't have Mawae or Fabini in 97.. Don't start with me CB..

I just want to see you bash the only Jet to make the HOF in what seems like half a century....... hehehehhe

Note the RBs I mentioned, cause if anyone says CM was their class I know better. Gayle Sayers was better in his short time then if CM had played six more years....So in many ways you are correct, CM was a compilier. See I am your friend.......

Savage69 · 02-03-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I just want to see you bash the only Jet to make the HOF in what seems like half a century....... hehehehhe

Note the RBs I mentioned, cause if anyone says CM was their class I know better. Gayle Sayers was better in his short time then if CM had played six more years....So in many ways you are correct, CM was a compilier. See I am your friend.......

I never thought anything else CB..

JetsFanatic · 02-03-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

I do more then remember it I made 10K betting on it..

Niiiiiiiiice!!!

SAR I · 02-03-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

He was 9-7,12-4 and 8-8 to me that's 2 winning and one ho hum.. If 9-7 isn't a winning season the Giants should not have won the Bowl in 2011..

He was 9-7 after 1-15.

He was 12-4 our best record in history.

He was 8-8 after losing his franchise QB in Week 1.

I'm going to Canton in August for the induction, will bring Tailgate Ed with me to cook and clean.

SAR I

James Hasty · 02-03-2013, 09:46 AM

I think all five candidates that got in were deserving.

With that being said, Will Shields should have been in last year and got screwed again this year. This year it came down to Shields vs Allen and Allen has the SB rings that Shields never got. While there is a very good case for Allen as a first ballot hall of famer my feeling is that he should have had to wait in line behind Shields (who should have been in already).

02-03-2013, 09:12 AM	#51
Carl Spackler Waterboy Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Pigsknuckle arkansas Posts: 11	Warren Sapp getting in is a joke. Klecko was way better than him. this is a popularity contest.

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James Hasty All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,541	I think all five candidates that got in were deserving. With that being said, Will Shields should have been in last year and got screwed again this year. This year it came down to Shields vs Allen and Allen has the SB rings that Shields never got. While there is a very good case for Allen as a first ballot hall of famer my feeling is that he should have had to wait in line behind Shields (who should have been in already).