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Dunnie · 02-03-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JetsFanatic

You people make me laugh how you re-invent history. Truth be known he had a great arm but was not a very good QB.

Disagree Completely ... O'Brien on any other team would have been Marinoesque.

Dunnie · 02-03-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

+1 The only Jet QB in history with no rushing td's.. Namath with braces on had 7.. Blame the line that Freeman avg 4.5 ypc behind, the truth was Kenny was a statue pigeons used to crap on because he took forever to get rid of the ball and never learned how to throw it away.. Guys with their feet in cement were more mobile but yes he had a great arm..

Rushing TDs are over rated. They are no more important than passing TDs. O'Brien is probably the most 'talented' QB the Jets have ever possesed ... Namath was greater because of SB and lasting effect etc , but OB was amazingly talented.

JetsFanatic · 02-03-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunnie

Disagree Completely ... O'Brien on any other team would have been Marinoesque.

You're crazy. Remember when O'Brien was on the one inch line and saw Louis Oliver coming from the back of the end zone and instead of an easy TD he froze and braced to get hit?

How about the time we needed to beat NE to make the playoffs and on fourth and goal from the three instead of running in for an easy TD he threw the ball away. Remember that too?

Or when he took 60+ sacks in 1985. Funny thing was when Ryan played that very same Oline looked good.

O'Brien threw a beautiful football, in a throwing contest I would take him in a second. As a QB he was mediocre at best with no football instincts.

And BTW there were years he had more talented teams then Marino. Walker & Toon at WR; Mickey Shuler at TE; and McNeil and Hecter in the Backfield. Sanchez would give his right nut for talent like that!

Savage69 · 02-03-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunnie

Rushing TDs are over rated. They are no more important than passing TDs. O'Brien is probably the most 'talented' QB the Jets have ever possesed ... Namath was greater because of SB and lasting effect etc , but OB was amazingly talented.

Ok Kenny had Toon,Walker and Shuler and had a career high of 25 tds passing. Sanchez sucks and he has a high of 26 not counting his 6 rushing tds.. I get it you grew up with KO but to say he was the most Talented Jet QB ever?? You must mean drafted because I think some may say Favre and Boomer were better and even Todd has a 25 td passing season.. Not to mention Vinny had 29 tds in 98..

Down, Set, Haiku · 02-03-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Ok Kenny had Toon,Walker and Shuler and had a career high of 25 tds passing. Sanchez sucks and he has a high of 26 not counting his 6 rushing tds.. I get it you grew up with KO but to say he was the most Talented Jet QB ever?? You must mean drafted because I think some may say Favre and Boomer were better and even Todd has a 25 td passing season.. Not to mention Vinny had 29 tds in 98..

Great post and what I bolded is what I don't understand with some fans, i grew up with KOB and was a huge KOB fan as well, which is why I can look back now with a more mature mind and deduce that he was a big part of a garbage era in Jet football. As a child you're captivated by your sports heroes, you make endless justifications for them, and they can do no wrong, but as a man you should be able to look back more objectively cause simply put, you know more. At 6 years old pretty long bombs are the things of dreams, as a man you realize it's way, way more than that.

It's like that first piece of tail you get and at the time you have no idea how you can ever live without her. Then you grow up, move on, try different things, and voila, that first girl is just that, the first one, nothing more or less and chances are you've gotten bigger and better pieces of poon.

I'll leave with this query: If you take any football fan from that era and asked them they could start a franchise with any QB not named Montana, Elway, nor Marino, how many would jump up and pick Ken O'(freaking) Brien? Aside from biased Jet fans I'd bet at most 1% of those polled would choose OB. Hell, in a big game you can give me either Simms or Hostetler over our coveted statue (though over a season's course I'd take OB over the Hoss).

Rambler · 02-05-2013, 09:10 AM

Granted O'Brien was pretty good but remember we passed on Dan Marino when we took him.

ucrenegade · 02-05-2013, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jims jetts

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/11/17/t...oints-in-game/

he was one of the reasons i choose the jets over the giants when i was 10 who every other family mbr liked.

I always loved his passing alot better than simms, it just sux simms is the one with the ring but i think has alot to do with the way an organization is run.

ucrenegade · 02-05-2013, 02:57 PM

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A passing game that goes for the Win!

suckchez can never do that it would have been a pick 6

geekbeatking · 02-05-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jims jetts

A passing game that goes for the Win!]

Thank you for posting this. This team was my favorite growing up. I was 12 and remember that game. I also remember countless Sundays of my father chanting "Joe must go!" with the crowd...good times.

sec318 · 02-05-2013, 03:12 PM

2 words Joe Walton

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Originally Posted by adpz

O'Brien definitely had some great, great games.

It's a long time ago and looking back, I can't quite remember why he was never able to get over the hump personally or with the Jets.

Untouchable · 02-05-2013, 03:18 PM

You know you have a terrible QB history when half of your fanbase is yearning for the days of Kenny O'Brien.

Savage69 · 02-05-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ucrenegade

he was one of the reasons i choose the jets over the giants when i was 10 who every other family mbr liked.

I always loved his passing alot better than simms, it just sux simms is the one with the ring but i think has alot to do with the way an organization is run.

Also it has to do with a QB never winning a playoff game..

Down, Set, Haiku · 02-05-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ucrenegade

he was one of the reasons i choose the jets over the giants when i was 10 who every other family mbr liked.

I always loved his passing alot better than simms, it just sux simms is the one with the ring but i think has alot to do with the way an organization is run.

Uh... Simms only had the best SB ever to earn his ring. Big Blue D or not, the Giants win that game regardless of their D. Simms went out there and simply won that game. Kenny O' couldn't even hold the freaking fort in Cleveland.

Down, Set, Haiku · 02-05-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

You know you have a terrible QB history when half of your fanbase is yearning for the days of Kenny O'Brien.

Seriously

Biggreenugly · 02-06-2013, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

You know you have a terrible QB history when half of your fanbase is yearning for the days of Kenny O'Brien.

LMAO!!!....I know! How soon we forget how his arm strength was never the same after the 1986 season. He was never more than just a solid decent QB. But in Jets history he's second to Namath....haha.

jims jetts · 02-10-2013, 04:11 PM

The Ken O'Brien passing game was one of the best in Jets history just look at the all time Jets rankings! (O'Brien,Toon,Waker and Shuler all ranked high)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...ll-time/page/8

John_0515 · 02-10-2013, 04:16 PM

Toon reminds me of Randy Moss. Maybe AJ Green.

Dunnie · 02-10-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Ok
Kenny had Toon,Walker and Shuler and had a career high of 25 tds passing. Sanchez sucks and he has a high of 26 not counting his 6 rushing tds.. I get it you grew up with KO but to say he was the most Talented Jet QB ever?? You must mean drafted because I think some may say Favre and Boomer were better and even Todd has a 25 td passing season.. Not to mention Vinny had 29 tds in 98..

Sanchez plays in an era when it's a crime to hit the QB ... Nough said. And you are correct ... I should have said drafted.

jims jetts · 02-12-2013, 06:54 PM

I would take Pat Ryan or Ken O'Brien over Sanchez!

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2011/11/27/t...l-november-27/

McElroid · 02-13-2013, 01:29 AM

All I know is I'll take KO over MS any day.

Back then it was the best of time and it was the worst of times.

These are just the worst of times.

02-05-2013, 09:10 AM	#26
Rambler Former D-1 Safety Practice Squad Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 445	Granted O'Brien was pretty good but remember we passed on Dan Marino when we took him.

02-05-2013, 03:18 PM	#31
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,409	You know you have a terrible QB history when half of your fanbase is yearning for the days of Kenny O'Brien.

02-10-2013, 04:11 PM	#36
jims jetts a proud father for the third time Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Barnegat,NJ Posts: 695	The Ken O'Brien passing game was one of the best in Jets history just look at the all time Jets rankings! (O'Brien,Toon,Waker and Shuler all ranked high) http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...ll-time/page/8

02-10-2013, 04:16 PM	#37
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,132	Toon reminds me of Randy Moss. Maybe AJ Green.

02-12-2013, 06:54 PM	#39
jims jetts a proud father for the third time Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Barnegat,NJ Posts: 695	I would take Pat Ryan or Ken O'Brien over Sanchez! http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2011/11/27/t...l-november-27/

02-13-2013, 01:29 AM	#40
McElroid Waterboy Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 33	All I know is I'll take KO over MS any day. Back then it was the best of time and it was the worst of times. These are just the worst of times.