Enjoy an Ads-Free Jets Insider - Become a Jets Insider VIP!
LATEST JI HEADLINES
TOP STORY
New Jets RB Goodson Arrested on Drugs and Weapons
Charges
 
5/16 : Joe McKnight Doesn't Appreciate Questioning His Roster Spot
5/15 : QB Garrard to leave Jets
5/15 : uSTADIUM App Looks to Revolutionize Social Sports Media
5/14 : Idzik's Offensive Game Plan: Depth Along Front Line
Go Back   Jets Insider.com Forums > Main Forums > The Landing Strip: All NY Jets and NFL - 24/7 > JetsInsider Draft Forum
Register FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

JetsInsider Draft Forum A forum to discuss all subjects related to the NY Jets and the NFL Draft. Post all of your mock drafts and predictions here. For more detailed info please go to our sister site, www.draftinsider.net!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-04-2013, 11:02 AM   #21
Beerfish
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 19,071
Quote:
Originally Posted by Untouchable View Post
OG Chance Warmack - Alabama

Both Slauson and Moore are set to hit the market and Warmack is the best OG prospect to come out in well over a decade.

It's not the sexy pick, but it's the smart pick.

For some reason I see that quote about every 2nd year. I heard it about Iuapiti and last year with DeCastro.
Beerfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 02-04-2013, 11:12 AM   #22
King P
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 870
if we draft Warmack, we better be trading down.
King P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 11:31 AM   #23
Run Jets Run
Undrafted Free Agent
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 162
Quote:
Originally Posted by stanner View Post
Leon Sandcastle

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
+1 Guys looks like an ugly Deon Sanders out there.
Run Jets Run is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 02:15 PM   #24
crasherino
Board Moderator
Jets Insider VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 16,826
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronxville Jets Fan View Post
Ansah is also my sleeper pick. Seems like a classic "Rex pick," but the question is whether Idzik will be comfortable enough rolling the dice on such high reward-high risk type guy with his first ever draft pick. My guess is that he goes real conservative by trading down a few picks and taking Warmack. A Warmack pick also shows that he's the boss.
Quote:
Originally Posted by King P View Post
if we draft Warmack, we better be trading down.
Whether or not you agree with taking a Guard in the first round is a legitimate debate, but I don't think its realistic to expect that Warmack will be around anywhere beyond 10. Sure, it could happen, but the Jets are not trading down with the expectation of taking Warmack.

That being said, if it comes down to Warmack at 9 or Jonathan Cooper at 15 plus an additional pick(s), I'd probably go with option 2.
crasherino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 03:21 PM   #25
Tinstar
Saved,and Thankfull
All Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Delaware
Posts: 5,453
Quote:
Originally Posted by Untouchable View Post
OG Chance Warmack - Alabama

Both Slauson and Moore are set to hit the market and Warmack is the best OG prospect to come out in well over a decade.

It's not the sexy pick, but it's the smart pick.

Warmack is the sexy pick, but what he is not is the smart pick. You do not select a player who will need to be signed to a big contract or let go within 3 yr with a top 10 pick. Those picks are for players at premium positions who you should have no problem paying because of their importance to the team.


Ask yourself this question. If Revis was as important to the team as some Jet fans and the media would have us think, would we as fans and the media be even having a conversation about keeping or trading Revis.

Even me, i can come up with a senario for signing Brick Ferguson. I cannot think of a good reason to keep Revis on this team.
Tinstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 04:08 PM   #26
augustiniak
All Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 8,112
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinstar View Post
Warmack is the sexy pick, but what he is not is the smart pick. You do not select a player who will need to be signed to a big contract or let go within 3 yr with a top 10 pick. Those picks are for players at premium positions who you should have no problem paying because of their importance to the team.


Ask yourself this question. If Revis was as important to the team as some Jet fans and the media would have us think, would we as fans and the media be even having a conversation about keeping or trading Revis.

Even me, i can come up with a senario for signing Brick Ferguson. I cannot think of a good reason to keep Revis on this team.
watching the super bowl, i wasn't saying to myself, 'wow, look at those guards, they're really winning it for these teams'. the jets can find quality guards, but it's not wise to use a top 10 pick on one.
augustiniak is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 04:32 PM   #27
nycdan
I'm tired of pretending I'm not a total b1tchen rock star from Mars.
All League
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Thornwood, NY
Posts: 4,781
Quote:
Originally Posted by augustiniak View Post
watching the super bowl, i wasn't saying to myself, 'wow, look at those guards, they're really winning it for these teams'. the jets can find quality guards, but it's not wise to use a top 10 pick on one.
Actually, the 49ers have what is generally considered the top OLine in the NFL. And Gore ran for 5.8 ypc (and Kaepernick for 8.9) in the game. So while it may not have jumped out on the TV, that line is a big part of SF's success this year.

Last edited by nycdan; 02-04-2013 at 04:38 PM.
nycdan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 04:37 PM   #28
augustiniak
All Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 8,112
Quote:
Originally Posted by nycdan View Post
Actually, the 49ers have what is generally considered the top OLine in the NFL. And Gore ran for 5.8 ypc (and Kaepernick for 8.9). So while it may not have jumped out on the TV, that line is a big part of SF's success this year.
true. but, unlike the jets, the 49ers have playmakers. their qb is accurate and can scramble. he holds onto the football. their rbs are fast. their wrs can catch. they drafted a wr in the first round, signed manningham and moss and drafted james, just to make sure they had enough playmakers.

AND they have a very good offensive line.
augustiniak is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 05:20 PM   #29
Untouchable
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 22,403
Quote:
Originally Posted by augustiniak View Post
watching the super bowl, i wasn't saying to myself, 'wow, look at those guards, they're really winning it for these teams'. the jets can find quality guards, but it's not wise to use a top 10 pick on one.
You don't think that if their respective draft classes could be redone, guys like Marshall Yanda and Mike Iupati wouldn't be Top 10 picks?

If you're going offense at #9, it's either an OL or a QB. There isn't a single RB, receiver or TE worthy of a Top 20 pick, much less Top 10.

The group of tweeners in this draft is just as deep as the OL, so I could just as easily say we could get an OLB in the 2nd or 3rd round as you could for an OG.

I'd rather take the best overall OL prospect in this draft than take the 3rd/4th rated passrusher at #9 (Mingo/Ansah). The only defensive player that I could get fully on board with at #9 is Damontre Moore and there's a snowballs chance in hell that he falls to us.
Untouchable is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 05:27 PM   #30
Joe W. Namath
Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014.
All Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Posts: 7,823
Offensive skill position player. Either qb, rb, wr or te.
Joe W. Namath is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 05:32 PM   #31
nycdan
I'm tired of pretending I'm not a total b1tchen rock star from Mars.
All League
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Thornwood, NY
Posts: 4,781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath View Post
Offensive skill position player. Either qb, rb, wr or te.
What QB, RB, WR or TE would you consider taking at #9? I agree with UT. There isn't a single one that makes sense there. The top 20 players in this draft are almost all OL, DL and OLB. It's almost freakishly devoid of offensive 'skill position' players.
nycdan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 05:46 PM   #32
Joe W. Namath
Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014.
All Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Posts: 7,823
Quote:
Originally Posted by nycdan View Post
What QB, RB, WR or TE would you consider taking at #9? I agree with UT. There isn't a single one that makes sense there. The top 20 players in this draft are almost all OL, DL and OLB. It's almost freakishly devoid of offensive 'skill position' players.
There is guys out there. Remmebr in 2010, CJ Spiller was thought to be a early 2nd late 1st round pick. After the combine and pro day, he shot up. There will be an offensive guy or 2 that shoots up the board after the combine.
Joe W. Namath is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 06:08 PM   #33
chiefst2000
Champion of Common Sense
All Pro
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,833
Quote:
Originally Posted by nycdan View Post
What QB, RB, WR or TE would you consider taking at #9? I agree with UT. There isn't a single one that makes sense there. The top 20 players in this draft are almost all OL, DL and OLB. It's almost freakishly devoid of offensive 'skill position' players.
I'll take Geno at #9. If not Id trade down or grab Best Available OLB. Definatly not a G or T at that spot.
chiefst2000 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 06:17 PM   #34
BamaJets
Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,777
Just take someone who can contribute right away. No more projects. The Jets aren't good enough to be using early picks on projects.

From the outset, Idzik doesn't exactly strike me as a guy who is going to go for the flashy names. Just give me some football players in this draft.
BamaJets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 06:18 PM   #35
Tinstar
Saved,and Thankfull
All Pro
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Delaware
Posts: 5,453
Quote:
Originally Posted by Untouchable View Post
You don't think that if their respective draft classes could be redone, guys like Marshall Yanda and Mike Iupati wouldn't be Top 10 picks?

If you're going offense at #9, it's either an OL or a QB. There isn't a single RB, receiver or TE worthy of a Top 20 pick, much less Top 10.

The group of tweeners in this draft is just as deep as the OL, so I could just as easily say we could get an OLB in the 2nd or 3rd round as you could for an OG.

I'd rather take the best overall OL prospect in this draft than take the 3rd/4th rated passrusher at #9 (Mingo/Ansah). The only defensive player that I could get fully on board with at #9 is Damontre Moore and there's a snowballs chance in hell that he falls to us.
1 - Agree

2 - Agree

3 - That player at this point in the draft must play a premium position. OG is not that.
Tinstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 06:53 PM   #36
FijiJet
waiting for our pass rush thunderbolt
All League
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,439
Give me Moore at #9 and I'll be ecstatic
FijiJet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 08:45 PM   #37
ARodFLKeysJetsFan
Jets GM John Idzik is handling business....
Hall Of Fame
Charter JI Member
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Currently Norfolk, VA....
Posts: 18,325
Quote:
Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
Go big and ugly this year.

Next year we can add the ornaments.
Yep, Jets need some youth on the O-Line for sure.
ARodFLKeysJetsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 11:05 PM   #38
detjetsfan
Supports Coach Ryan
All League
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 4,006
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
For some reason I see that quote about every 2nd year. I heard it about Iuapiti and last year with DeCastro.
And Iupati has been excellent for the 49ers and DeCastro played well for the Steelers his rookie season once he got over the knee injury.
detjetsfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 11:07 PM   #39
detjetsfan
Supports Coach Ryan
All League
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 4,006
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaJets View Post
Just take someone who can contribute right away. No more projects. The Jets aren't good enough to be using early picks on projects.

From the outset, Idzik doesn't exactly strike me as a guy who is going to go for the flashy names. Just give me some football players in this draft.
+1

No raw WR's or workout warrior DE's trying to convert to OLB. We need guys who can get on the field right away with all of our day 1 picks to avoid the real cap hell.
detjetsfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2013, 11:11 PM   #40
SCITSCAT
Hoping Idzik is the GM we've Needed! Am Hopeful.
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,055
We have a lot of components needed on this roster, TRADE Down, get more pics and do it a couple of times and get some depth.
SCITSCAT is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Enjoy an Ads-Free Jets Insider - Become a Jets Insider VIP!

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:37 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2013, JetsInsider.com LTD