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rmeyer52 · 02-04-2013, 04:04 PM

Even though Colin Kaepernick is catching flack for his first-half jitters in the Super Bowl, the 49ers defense — the secondary specifically — was the real reason why they lost last night.

Joe Flacco completed 22 of 33 passes for 287 yards and 3 TDs. He didn't just dink and dunk San Francisco to death, he supplemented his short passes with a handful of back-breaking deep balls. He was getting anything he wanted.
We probably should have seen it coming.

The 49ers secondary got sliced up by Matt Ryan in the first half of the NFC title game, and gave up 31 points to the Green Bay Packers in the divisional round.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/49ers...#ixzz2Jy06bTO0

Traitor Jay & the Woodies · 02-04-2013, 04:05 PM

Put down the crack pipe.

McGinley · 02-04-2013, 04:05 PM

Warfish · 02-04-2013, 04:10 PM

Revis is worth four (4) Alex Smiths.

joiseyjet · 02-04-2013, 04:10 PM

Is there something Alex did from the bench last nite that makes us want to trade our best player for?

PatsFanTX · 02-04-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

Revis is worth four (4) Alex Smiths.

If Revis played the entire season last year, the Jets still finish 6-10.

If Alex Smith was the Jets starting QB last year, they finish 9-7 and slip into the playoffs.

John_0515 · 02-04-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

If Revis played the entire season last year, the Jets still finish 6-10.

If Alex Smith was the Jets starting QB last year, they finish 9-7 and slip into the playoffs.

I agree with this.

PMarsico9 · 02-04-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

If Alex Smith was the Jets starting QB last year, they finish 9-7 and slip into the playoffs.

Alex Smith stinks. Worst thing I think I've ever read by you. You should be banned.

Alex Smith is not a viable NFL QB without the NFL's best TE, three great WR's, 2-3 dominant RB's, a great O-line, and a dominant defense.

And then all he does is not lose you the game. He wins you nothing.

If you need all that around you Sanchez has proven even he can get you to a conference championship which is exactly all Smith did.

Dirtstar · 02-04-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

If Revis played the entire season last year, the Jets still finish 6-10.

If Alex Smith was the Jets starting QB last year, they finish 9-7 and slip into the playoffs.

what does that have to do with their trade value?

McGinley · 02-04-2013, 04:19 PM

I'm someone who's FOR trading Revis, but Revis for Smith is stupid. Trading the best CB in the game for a guy who is a game-manager at best and has only had one good year in 8 seasons is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

10PennyToColes87 · 02-04-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtstar

what does that have to do with their trade value?

Nothing. As usual, he's diverting the topic to random nonsense.

McGinley · 02-04-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 10PennyToColes87

Nothing. As usual, he's diverting the topic to random nonsense.

Well, he can divert his mouth to my balls for all I care.

Beerfish · 02-04-2013, 04:24 PM

The Jets would require picks as well as Smith if a deal was to be made with the 49ers.

The niners will have a LOT of picks to offer up in a trade whether it be making a pitch for Revis or trying to trade up for the Jets pick.

They have:

1st
2nd
3rd x 2
4th x 2
5th x 2
6th x 2
7th x 4

A total of 14 picks if they get the comp picks they are projected to get.

DDNYjets · 02-04-2013, 04:24 PM

Make it happen Tanny.

PMarsico9 · 02-04-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

I'm someone who's FOR trading Revis, but Revis for Smith is stupid. Trading the best CB in the game for a guy who is a game-manager at best and has only had one good year in 8 seasons is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Link to where he's running 4.3's again already?

Link to article on his full recovery?

Proof?

Oh you think ACL's are nothing? I had one. It was terrible. The recovery was awful. Take a knife and stab yourself in the knee for 2 hours every day while they put you in that motorized monster at rehab.

http://www.nfl.com/player/domoniquef...36/careerstats

This guy was well on his way to being a top flight CB. He blew out his ACL and could never recover. He finally gave up last year.

CB when you are not built like Browner, Sherman, or Cromartie requires great speed. There is no guarantee Revis will EVER come back to what he was. It is presumptuous to think so.

It's also presumptuous to think that to trade him you won't have to undervalue him. I don't think you will even get a single first round pick for him without packaging a pick with him.

He has the Jets by the balls, there's zero incentive for any GM to offer what they want or what he's truly worth for a CB coming off ACL reconstruction who runs contrary to the trend of big CB's that is going on right now.

Raider9175 · 02-04-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

The Jets would require picks as well as Smith if a deal was to be made with the 49ers.

The niners will have a LOT of picks to offer up in a trade whether it be making a pitch for Revis or trying to trade up for the Jets pick.

They have:

1st
2nd
3rd x 2
4th x 2
5th x 2
6th x 2
7th x 4

A total of 14 picks if they get the comp picks they are projected to get.

You can't trade compensation picks. The team that gets a compensation pick has to make the pick.

McGinley · 02-04-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PMarsico9

Link to where he's running 4.3's again already?

Link to article on his full recovery?

Proof?

Oh you think ACL's are nothing? I had one. It was terrible. The recovery was awful. Take a knife and stab yourself in the knee for 2 hours every day while they put you in that motorized monster at rehab.

http://www.nfl.com/player/domoniquef...36/careerstats

This guy was well on his way to being a top flight CB. He blew out his ACL and could never recover. He finally gave up last year.

CB when you are not built like Browner, Sherman, or Cromartie requires great speed. There is no guarantee Revis will EVER come back to what he was. It is presumptuous to think so.

It's also presumptuous to think that to trade him you won't have to undervalue him. I don't think you will even get a single first round pick for him without packaging a pick with him.

He has the Jets by the balls, there's zero incentive for any GM to offer what they want or what he's truly worth for a CB coming off ACL reconstruction who runs contrary to the trend of big CB's that is going on right now.

His name alone will make it a bad deal. We're not talking about trying to get 3 1sts or some other stupid crap that some have came up with. Trading him for Smith is ****ing stupid.

ubrnostrum · 02-04-2013, 04:30 PM

Smith and a conditionary 2nd in 13 and a third in 14 for Revis

Warfish · 02-04-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

If Revis played the entire season last year, the Jets still finish 6-10.

If Alex Smith was the Jets starting QB last year, they finish 9-7 and slip into the playoffs.

I don't agree. But that IS one way of assigning value.

I'll give you another.

Revis is a sure-fire Hall of Fame player, the best at his position in the NFL.

Smith is a JAG QB, the equivalent of many players that come out every year in the draft.

It may not be possible to "replace" a Revis.

Smith can be replaced every year, any year, by almost any top-three-round QB.

GreenReaper · 02-04-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

Revis is worth four (4) Alex Smiths.

Don't even want one Smithee. That Supe was a game with two strong armed QBs. Smith can't make those lasers, or long passes that we saw in this game.

Crabtree...or any of the 49ers wideouts were not targeted that much when Smith was QB. 49ers were among the teams that least threw successfully to their WRs. Due to the fact Smith has a limited arm. But when Kap took over...Crabtree and Moss were targeted more often.

When you play NEast football in the outdoors...you need a QB with an arm that can make all the throws...like the deep out, etc.

02-04-2013, 04:04 PM	#1
rmeyer52 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Simi Valley, California Posts: 2,709	Revis for Alex Smith ????? Even though Colin Kaepernick is catching flack for his first-half jitters in the Super Bowl, the 49ers defense — the secondary specifically — was the real reason why they lost last night. Joe Flacco completed 22 of 33 passes for 287 yards and 3 TDs. He didn't just dink and dunk San Francisco to death, he supplemented his short passes with a handful of back-breaking deep balls. He was getting anything he wanted. We probably should have seen it coming. The 49ers secondary got sliced up by Matt Ryan in the first half of the NFC title game, and gave up 31 points to the Green Bay Packers in the divisional round. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/49ers...#ixzz2Jy06bTO0

02-04-2013, 04:05 PM	#2
Traitor Jay & the Woodies is down with the cause. Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: The Eternal Blackness of My Mind Posts: 3,703	Put down the crack pipe.

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McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,445

02-04-2013, 04:10 PM	#4
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	Revis is worth four (4) Alex Smiths.

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joiseyjet Hall Of Fame Founding JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 9,359	Is there something Alex did from the bench last nite that makes us want to trade our best player for?

02-04-2013, 04:19 PM	#10
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,445	I'm someone who's FOR trading Revis, but Revis for Smith is stupid. Trading the best CB in the game for a guy who is a game-manager at best and has only had one good year in 8 seasons is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

02-04-2013, 04:24 PM	#13
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,066	The Jets would require picks as well as Smith if a deal was to be made with the 49ers. The niners will have a LOT of picks to offer up in a trade whether it be making a pitch for Revis or trying to trade up for the Jets pick. They have: 1st 2nd 3rd x 2 4th x 2 5th x 2 6th x 2 7th x 4 A total of 14 picks if they get the comp picks they are projected to get.

02-04-2013, 04:24 PM	#14
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,237	Make it happen Tanny.

02-04-2013, 04:30 PM	#18
ubrnostrum not economically viable. Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,601	Smith and a conditionary 2nd in 13 and a third in 14 for Revis