There should be a website with every play in the NFL. - Jets Insider.com Forums

Hobblingjetster · 02-05-2013, 09:20 AM

In this day and age I should be able to type in a scenario and pull up video of a scenario, just like the coaches.

The rest of the stuff is garbage.

dustykeller · 02-05-2013, 09:21 AM

wat

Hobblingjetster · 02-05-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dustykeller

wat

I want every play searchable. I want to review how the giants blew out sf earlier in the season only to get crushed by bal late. Why did we destroy indy and they make the playoffs?

DDNYjets · 02-05-2013, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hobblingjetster

I want every play searchable. I want to review how the giants blew out sf earlier in the season only to get crushed by bal late. Why did we destroy indy and they make the playoffs?

It's called "any given Sunday".

How did we beat NE in the 2010 playoffs?

Check out NFL Rewind. It may not include everything you want but I think it is the closest thing to what you are describing.

Hobblingjetster · 02-05-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

It's called "any given Sunday".

How did we beat NE in the 2010 playoffs?

Check out NFL Rewind. It may not include everything you want but I think it is the closest thing to what you are describing.

Nah. The NFL has everything. It's easily digestible. It's all numbers. Make it searchable. Charge a fee and encode everything.

It's one of the reasons why the stadium experience sucks and we all watch at home...hubris.

sg3 · 02-05-2013, 10:36 AM

nfl rewind gives you every game for the last 3 years or so

including the coaches endzone view you are apparently trying to get

patman · 02-05-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hobblingjetster

Nah. The NFL has everything. It's easily digestible. It's all numbers. Make it searchable. Charge a fee and encode everything.

It's one of the reasons why the stadium experience sucks and we all watch at home...hubris.

you can buy the all 22 coaching film for online. this has been available all season.

http://www.nfl.com/coachesfilm

BIGKIDD325 · 02-05-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobblingjetster

Nah. The NFL has everything. It's easily digestible. It's all numbers. Make it searchable. Charge a fee and encode everything.

It's one of the reasons why the stadium experience sucks and we all watch at home...hubris.

NFL.com has a service where you can watch the All-22 film from any games over the last few years. I forget how much it costs.

JB1089 · 02-05-2013, 04:04 PM

I don't think he's talking about just the coaches film. He wants access to the database of plays that every team keeps.

You can do a search for: Patriots, 1st & 10, 1st quarter, 2009-2012; and pull up a list of all the plays that fit the criteria.

I don't expect something like that to be available for quite some time. The NFL doesn't keep such a database for themselves, the individual teams do. For now, we merely have to settle for being able to watch every play from every game for the last 3-4 years, with coaches film for the last 2.

patman · 02-05-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JB1089

I don't think he's talking about just the coaches film. He wants access to the database of plays that every team keeps.

You can do a search for: Patriots, 1st & 10, 1st quarter, 2009-2012; and pull up a list of all the plays that fit the criteria.

I don't expect something like that to be available for quite some time. The NFL doesn't keep such a database for themselves, the individual teams do. For now, we merely have to settle for being able to watch every play from every game for the last 3-4 years, with coaches film for the last 2.

He must want to chat tendencies. Either that or he works for BB and he wants to get the defensive signals, without a camera on the sidelines

southside · 02-05-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

It's called "any given Sunday".

How did we beat NE in the 2010 playoffs?

Umm... we beat them during the regular season too. Not exactly an "Any Given Sunday" scenario.

DDNYjets · 02-05-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobblingjetster

Nah. The NFL has everything. It's easily digestible. It's all numbers. Make it searchable. Charge a fee and encode everything.

It's one of the reasons why the stadium experience sucks and we all watch at home...hubris.

The NFL doesn't do that. The individual teams do. And they will never divulge that info. Teams are paranoid and look for every little advantage, they are not going to give up any information. Your best bet would be for a private website to start charting every game and providing the service. The NFL is never going to do that.

Why do you want to go to a game and do all that stuff? The idea of going to the game is to be able to cheer in person. I don't like where they are going with the entire stadium experience. Pretty soon nobody is going to be focused on the game. This is part of the reason why the new stadium is like a library.

IMO they should just accept that more people stay home and target those people by providing them different services. Make money that way and take their losses and lower ticket prices so the rabid fans can stay in the building. Let the techies stay home and enjoy their camera angles.

Trades · 02-05-2013, 04:53 PM

At least 5 super bowls ago there was an IBM commercial with 2 guys talking about "the catch" (I think) and then some IBM guy says soon you will be able to find every play of every game, blah, blah, blah, for the minds of IBM or some such. I can't find the damn commercial but I remember it. Anyone else remember that? link?

patman · 02-05-2013, 05:12 PM

Just doing some quick math there is about 75,000 plays a year in the league.
The file tree structure should not be that complicated. 17 weeks, 16 games
150 plays, and you could file it by what min of the game the ball was snapped
but to search by down and distance would be tough.

Trades · 02-05-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by patman

Just doing some quick math there is about 75,000 plays a year in the league.
The file tree structure should not be that complicated. 17 weeks, 16 games
150 plays, and you could file it by what min of the game the ball was snapped
but to search by down and distance would be tough.

Rumor has it that the Pats have video that would help make the relationship between the play, time down and distance a breeze.

patman · 02-05-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trades

Rumor has it that the Pats have video that would help make the relationship between the play, time down and distance a breeze.

And the defensive signal along with audio from the microphones under the bench. The pats also have the 1/2 time adjustments from the opposing coaches in the locker room, but those are only available from home games

Kotch · 02-05-2013, 08:38 PM

Well first you need the All-22 film, which until very recently wasn't available to the public, even paying subscribers. It now is (though think you need to pay a fee to access it), otherwise you only see what the TV camera sees and often can't see how Safeties and CBs like up, etc...

From there you just need the manpower to analyze every play of every team in every game.

There are a bunch of groups out there doing this - Aaron Schatz's Football Outsiders is one of them.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/

Sanchez 3:16 · 02-05-2013, 08:56 PM

We're fans, not coaches.

Even if we could break it down, 99% of us wouldn't know what we're breaking down anyway.

ubrnostrum · 02-05-2013, 09:32 PM

What the hell do you need that for??

REDDOG2004 · 02-06-2013, 02:52 PM

I'm surprised nobody has thought of putting pornography on the web

Other than the buttfumble

02-05-2013, 09:20 AM	#1
Hobblingjetster Rookie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jersey City Posts: 655	There should be a website with every play in the NFL. In this day and age I should be able to type in a scenario and pull up video of a scenario, just like the coaches. The rest of the stuff is garbage.

02-05-2013, 09:21 AM	#2
dustykeller America's Hat Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 724	wat

02-05-2013, 10:36 AM	#6
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,408	nfl rewind gives you every game for the last 3 years or so including the coaches endzone view you are apparently trying to get

02-05-2013, 04:04 PM	#9
JB1089 Now is the time... All Pro Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5,712	I don't think he's talking about just the coaches film. He wants access to the database of plays that every team keeps. You can do a search for: Patriots, 1st & 10, 1st quarter, 2009-2012; and pull up a list of all the plays that fit the criteria. I don't expect something like that to be available for quite some time. The NFL doesn't keep such a database for themselves, the individual teams do. For now, we merely have to settle for being able to watch every play from every game for the last 3-4 years, with coaches film for the last 2.

02-05-2013, 04:53 PM	#13
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,558	At least 5 super bowls ago there was an IBM commercial with 2 guys talking about "the catch" (I think) and then some IBM guy says soon you will be able to find every play of every game, blah, blah, blah, for the minds of IBM or some such. I can't find the damn commercial but I remember it. Anyone else remember that? link?

02-05-2013, 05:12 PM	#14
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,162	Just doing some quick math there is about 75,000 plays a year in the league. The file tree structure should not be that complicated. 17 weeks, 16 games 150 plays, and you could file it by what min of the game the ball was snapped but to search by down and distance would be tough.

02-05-2013, 08:38 PM	#17
Kotch Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,897	Well first you need the All-22 film, which until very recently wasn't available to the public, even paying subscribers. It now is (though think you need to pay a fee to access it), otherwise you only see what the TV camera sees and often can't see how Safeties and CBs like up, etc... From there you just need the manpower to analyze every play of every team in every game. There are a bunch of groups out there doing this - Aaron Schatz's Football Outsiders is one of them. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/

02-05-2013, 08:56 PM	#18
Sanchez 3:16 McElroy 3:16? Rookie Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 762	We're fans, not coaches. Even if we could break it down, 99% of us wouldn't know what we're breaking down anyway.

02-05-2013, 09:32 PM	#19
ubrnostrum not economically viable. Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,603	What the hell do you need that for??

02-06-2013, 02:52 PM	#20
REDDOG2004 Watching the watchers watch you Practice Squad Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 492	I'm surprised nobody has thought of putting pornography on the web Other than the buttfumble