Joe Flacco seeking to be highest paid QB in football - Jets Insider.com Forums

SlickBri481 · 02-06-2013, 01:28 PM

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/89...ccording-agent

Try to hold back your laughter...

revischrist · 02-06-2013, 01:36 PM

He is apparently elite along with 15 other Qbs in the NFL according the media. LOL at guys like Flacco and Elli being Elite.

The problem is that with the salary cap and rules to favor passing, there are less dynasties and more QBS putting up 4k yards. With less dynasties more and more QBs have a chance to make a run at the super bowl. Back in the day when SF/Dallas were winning all the super bowls, the above average QBS stood no chance and they were just considered above average. Now guys like Flacco get one really good year or one great playoff run and they are considered ELITE by idiots like Mike Greenberg (his list has about 8- or 9 elite QBS).

PatriotReign · 02-06-2013, 01:37 PM

Negotiating ploy....in the end he will likely "settle" for being the #4 or so highest paid.

FreshBaked 24 7 · 02-06-2013, 01:42 PM

He won them a superbowl, it's the ultimate bargaining piece you can have

RussianGreen · 02-06-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotReign

Negotiating ploy....in the end he will likely "settle" for being the #4 or so highest paid.

Just imagine his numbers if he knew exactly every defensive call.

SlickBri481 · 02-06-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

He is apparently elite along with 15 other Qbs in the NFL according the media. LOL at guys like Flacco and Elli being Elite.

The problem is that with the salary cap and rules to favor passing, there are less dynasties and more QBS putting up 4k yards. With less dynasties more and more QBs have a chance to make a run at the super bowl. Back in the day when SF/Dallas were winning all the super bowls, the above average QBS stood no chance and they were just considered above average. Now guys like Flacco get one really good year or one great playoff run and they are considered ELITE by idiots like Mike Greenberg (his list has about 8- or 9 elite QBS).

Well said. It's nothing against Flacco, he had a really good playoff run and didn't make any mistakes. But what conversation are we having about him if Rahim Moore doesn't misplay a routine deep ball? Ravens get eliminated by Broncos, and the conversation is if they should let a guy who threw a mediocre 22 TD passes and had a passer rating under 90 leave for free agency. Instead, the conversation is if he should be highest paid. I can't give him anything but props for his past 4 games, but 4 games does not a career make. Good reference to Eli too, the parallels are strong

McGinley · 02-06-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshBaked 24 7

He won them a superbowl, it's the ultimate bargaining piece you can have

There might be a guy named Anquan Boldin who might disagree.

SlickBri481 · 02-06-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

There might be a guy named Anquan Boldin who might disagree.

Plus Jones should have been named SB MVP. Hell, one of Flacco's TD passes was a badly underthrown ball to Jones that he made a great play on, and then had a really nifty run to get in the endzone. Take that play away, and Flacco's game was relatively limited.

Plus the kickoff return TD basically put the score out of reach (or just about).

Ruby2 · 02-06-2013, 01:53 PM

He's going to get it.

PMarsico9 · 02-06-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

He is apparently elite along with 15 other Qbs in the NFL according the media. LOL at guys like Flacco and Elli being Elite.

Eli is elite. Without Eli the Giants offense is terrible. I'm sick of reading this. Manning has more 4,000 yard seasons than Marino, Montana, and Elway COMBINED.

I have no doubt that Matt Moore has done more with less than Flacco. I wouldn't even franchise him.

JerseyJet80 · 02-06-2013, 01:57 PM

lol

SlickBri481 · 02-06-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PMarsico9

Eli is elite. Without Eli the Giants offense is terrible. I'm sick of reading this. Manning has more 4,000 yard seasons than Marino, Montana, and Elway COMBINED.

I have no doubt that Matt Moore has done more with less than Flacco. I wouldn't even franchise him.

Eli's better than Flacco, but you can't tell me guys like Nicks and Cruz are bad players. Nicks was a 1st round pick and very talented WR. Cruz was under the radar but look at how many big plays he makes after the catch. His skill level is high. Giants also gave Eli a 1st round RB this past season and when Bradshaw is healthy he is very good. Just pointing that out...

SDJETS · 02-06-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PMarsico9

Eli is elite. Without Eli the Giants offense is terrible. I'm sick of reading this. Manning has more 4,000 yard seasons than Marino, Montana, and Elway COMBINED.

I have no doubt that Matt Moore has done more with less than Flacco. I wouldn't even franchise him.

Comparing Eli to those three based on 4,000 yard seasons is pretty much useless in today's NFL

giddy up · 02-06-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PMarsico9

Eli is elite. Without Eli the Giants offense is terrible. I'm sick of reading this. Manning has more 4,000 yard seasons than Marino, Montana, and Elway COMBINED.

I have no doubt that Matt Moore has done more with less than Flacco. I wouldn't even franchise him.

Fail.

Not only is that a ridiculous comparison in todays NFL, but just doing a quick check you can see Marino alone had 6 seasons of over 4,000 yards and Eli has only had 3.

And Montana never threw for 4,000 yards. Carson Palmer threw for over 4,000 yards this year. Is he better than Montana?

LockeJET · 02-06-2013, 02:07 PM

Most know how this works. It's not always who's the best but when you become a FA. He has all the leverage.

The Jets made Bart Scott the highest paid ILB at the time. Was he the best?

Ruby2 · 02-06-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LockeJET

Most know how this works. It's not always who's the best but when you become a FA. He has all the leverage.

The Jets made Bart Scott the highest paid ILB at the time. Was he the best?

Bingo

McGinley · 02-06-2013, 02:11 PM

Marisco going full derp.

Eli isn't elite, but he IS a good QB. Same with Flacco. People are just stuck in the ESPN bs and have this idea that a QB is either crap or he's elite. It's stupid, honestly.

Cleansweep2013 · 02-06-2013, 02:14 PM

Hes got their balls to the fire I hope he milks them for every penny.. This will hurt the team as a whole and help the rest of the teams a little.. They had every chance to sign him for a decent deal last year, now after winning the superbowl and leading the way they will have to pony up..

It still blows my mind how stupid MT was to extend Sanchez when their was absolutely no need for it! Teams would be lining up or flacco yet the ravens waited.. No team would have been lining up for Sanchez yet MT uneedingly locked him up like he was an elite qb..

SlickBri481 · 02-06-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Marisco going full derp.

Eli isn't elite, but he IS a good QB. Same with Flacco. People are just stuck in the ESPN bs and have this idea that a QB is either crap or he's elite. It's stupid, honestly.

Exactly. Flacco is an above average QB who had a really good stretch of 4 games in the playoffs. Prior to this stretch, my guess is he played around 90 career games. I bet he never had a 4 game stretch this good (at least with TD:INT ratio). What is more telling about him as a player? 90 games or 4?

If he were an elite QB, he'd be having elite regular seasons. Plain and simple

JETFAN1 · 02-06-2013, 02:21 PM

I could care less about the highest paid or whether he is elite or not he competed to get the Ravens to the SB and that is all the matters to me. Did he get lucky on a couple of his throws? Yes, but he made enough plays to be in the games. The only QB that failed this post season was Shaub. He didn't do jack to at least be in the game.

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02-06-2013, 01:28 PM	#1
SlickBri481 Heal up Darrelle... All Pro Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 6,351	Joe Flacco seeking to be highest paid QB in football http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/89...ccording-agent Try to hold back your laughter...

02-06-2013, 01:36 PM	#2
revischrist Dee Best! Veteran Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,729	He is apparently elite along with 15 other Qbs in the NFL according the media. LOL at guys like Flacco and Elli being Elite. The problem is that with the salary cap and rules to favor passing, there are less dynasties and more QBS putting up 4k yards. With less dynasties more and more QBs have a chance to make a run at the super bowl. Back in the day when SF/Dallas were winning all the super bowls, the above average QBS stood no chance and they were just considered above average. Now guys like Flacco get one really good year or one great playoff run and they are considered ELITE by idiots like Mike Greenberg (his list has about 8- or 9 elite QBS).

02-06-2013, 01:37 PM	#3
PatriotReign Asterisks of Excellence *** All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boston area Posts: 4,353	Negotiating ploy....in the end he will likely "settle" for being the #4 or so highest paid.

02-06-2013, 01:42 PM	#4
FreshBaked 24 7 wait...wha? 0_o All League Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Midland Park, NJ Posts: 3,697	He won them a superbowl, it's the ultimate bargaining piece you can have

02-06-2013, 01:53 PM	#9
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,025	He's going to get it.

02-06-2013, 01:57 PM	#11
JerseyJet80 bring back the beard! All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 2,733	lol

02-06-2013, 02:07 PM	#15
LockeJET pooping, but thinking of you! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 15,957	Most know how this works. It's not always who's the best but when you become a FA. He has all the leverage. The Jets made Bart Scott the highest paid ILB at the time. Was he the best?

02-06-2013, 02:11 PM	#17
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,449	Marisco going full derp. Eli isn't elite, but he IS a good QB. Same with Flacco. People are just stuck in the ESPN bs and have this idea that a QB is either crap or he's elite. It's stupid, honestly.

02-06-2013, 02:14 PM	#18
Cleansweep2013 1 more year until Sanchez is delievering piazzas onsundays.. Rookie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 610	Hes got their balls to the fire I hope he milks them for every penny.. This will hurt the team as a whole and help the rest of the teams a little.. They had every chance to sign him for a decent deal last year, now after winning the superbowl and leading the way they will have to pony up.. It still blows my mind how stupid MT was to extend Sanchez when their was absolutely no need for it! Teams would be lining up or flacco yet the ravens waited.. No team would have been lining up for Sanchez yet MT uneedingly locked him up like he was an elite qb..

02-06-2013, 02:21 PM	#20
JETFAN1 Bored Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,782	I could care less about the highest paid or whether he is elite or not he competed to get the Ravens to the SB and that is all the matters to me. Did he get lucky on a couple of his throws? Yes, but he made enough plays to be in the games. The only QB that failed this post season was Shaub. He didn't do jack to at least be in the game. Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2