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PatsFanTX · 02-08-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sourceworx

I was wondering about this. In 2006 they got Pennington to take a pay cut. Why can't they get Sanchez to do the same?

Do the Jets really want to guarantee Sanchez more upfront money and extend his contract even further?

That's what it would take to restructure in order to reduce his cap liability.

Eckesg1 · 02-08-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Do the Jets really want to guarantee Sanchez more upfront money and extend his contract even further?

That's what it would take to restructure in order to reduce his cap liability.

If they give him more money upfront, then the back is still light, in case they want to release him

carlito1171 · 02-08-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sec.101row23

If it involves guaranteeing him one more penny in 2014 then it is a massive mistake.

was just about to post this!

Yankeejet22 · 02-08-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

Why would you take a Qb in teh 2nd round if you plan on taking a QB next year in the 1st? There is no way you can evaluate a Qb taken in the 2nd round in one year and the team will give that player every opportunity to be the guy.

No QB's in the 1st three rounds for me unless one of the top guys miraculously fell to the 3rd round.

+1
I'd also like to see them pass on this year's crop.

But, if you draft one, you better love him, and play him from the git-go.

Sourceworx · 02-08-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Do the Jets really want to guarantee Sanchez more upfront money and extend his contract even further?

That's what it would take to restructure in order to reduce his cap liability.

I'm just asking a question. I'm not well-versed in contracts, especially with the new CBA.

Check your PMs, BTW.

sec.101row23 · 02-08-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Do the Jets really want to guarantee Sanchez more upfront money and extend his contract even further?

That's what it would take to restructure in order to reduce his cap liability.

It wouldnt be upfront money, it would be guaranteeing money down the road.

thshadow · 02-08-2013, 11:02 AM

Maybe it's late in the thread for this, but for the record, all Tony said (on his draft forum) was:

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there will be some Jets/QB news posted in the next 16 hours....

He didn't imply this was major groundbreaking news... Neonleon was the one getting all excited, not Tony...

C Mart · 02-08-2013, 11:32 AM

@rabblerousr: @TonyPauline Thought you might like this article: http://t.co/wueWFP3Z

sg3 · 02-08-2013, 11:38 AM

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@rabblerousr: @TonyPauline Thought you might like this article: http://t.co/wueWFP3Z

good to see that JI has the top dog right here where we can read and learn from him.

sg3 · 02-08-2013, 11:47 AM

checked out Tony's post at DI and he clearly does not predict earthshaking BREAKING NEWS

his 16 hour clock expires at 12:22 PM today..... however I am willing to give him an "inclement weather" extension (with no cap consequences) provided the news is that Teblow is being released

McGinley · 02-08-2013, 11:49 AM

Conor Orr ‏@ConorTOrr
#jets scouted him this season. RT @NFL_ATL: Report: Jets, Chiefs, Eagles 'think highly' of @SyracuseU QB Ryan Nassib http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...gn=Twitter_atl …

That's most likely all this news is. Either that or the Sanchez contract restructure. Nothing really huge.

sdJETSetter · 02-08-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Conor Orr ‏@ConorTOrr
#jets scouted him this season. RT @NFL_ATL: Report: Jets, Chiefs, Eagles 'think highly' of @SyracuseU QB Ryan Nassib http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...gn=Twitter_atl …

That's most likely all this news is. Either that or the Sanchez contract restructure. Nothing really huge.

good one.

McGinley · 02-08-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sdJETSetter

good one.

@Steiny31: Breaking: Per source, the #Jets have reached out to Mark Sanchez to explore restructuring his contract. #nyj

Keep in mind that it's Steiny, but it's something to consider.

FlagmanL11 · 02-08-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yankeejet22

+1
I'd also like to see them pass on this year's crop.

But, if you draft one, you better love him, and play him from the git-go.

The QB's coming out this year are 4th rounders and back. No need to take a flyer on anyone earlier than the 4th.

sec.101row23 · 02-08-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

If they give him more money upfront, then the back is still light, in case they want to release him

How and why would the Jets give Sanchez MORE money upfront to lighten the back end? His salary isnt guaranteed for 2014 as it is, how do you lighten that up?

revischrist · 02-08-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

@Steiny31: Breaking: Per source, the #Jets have reached out to Mark Sanchez to explore restructuring his contract. #nyj

Keep in mind that it's Steiny, but it's something to consider.

Jets have zero choice but to keep Sanchez this year (hopefully as backup) and if they can defray some of the cap hit over a couple of years isntead of it all coming this year it makes some sense. But the cap hit going forward has to be small enough where we wouldn't feel it when we are forced to cut him next year.

inb4 cries that Idzik is another capologist..

Beerfish · 02-08-2013, 12:08 PM

The only way I support a Sanchez restructure is if it makes him easier to get rid of next year. Anything that would make it tougher to dump him after this year would be a totally idiotic move.

Perhaps they have told him he is going to get dumped next year for sure 100% then get together and make the best of it for both sides.

revischrist · 02-08-2013, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FlagmanL11

The QB's coming out this year are 4th rounders and back. No need to take a flyer on anyone earlier than the 4th.

This. While I think we could reach for one in the 2nd/3rd, there will be no pressure on the rookie. We will likely start the year with Sanchez who will likely crap the bed and then the rookie can step in with ZERO pressure. Best case scenario the rookie looks so good in practice/pre-season that we are forced to start him. Worst case scenario the rookie and Sanchez suck and we get a high draft pick next year.

sdJETSetter · 02-08-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

@Steiny31: Breaking: Per source, the #Jets have reached out to Mark Sanchez to explore restructuring his contract. #nyj

Keep in mind that it's Steiny, but it's something to consider.

Whoa. I just dont really understand all the nuances of contract restructuring, but in black and white terms, wouldnt Mark only want to restructure if more guaranteed $$$ was involved?

Just cant see him taking a pay cut, unless it benfits him down the line in guaranteed money.

Im with LagerFish on this one. I think we have to ride it out this year in order to cut ties with Mark after 2013.

Free the Idzik!

SMC · 02-08-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

@Steiny31: Breaking: Per source, the #Jets have reached out to Mark Sanchez to explore restructuring his contract. #nyj

That was because Chad was in a position to get cut. Ultimately, he got every penny of the contract because his salary was converted into a low base and easily achieved incentives based on playing time only, which Chad met by playing the full season.

Jets can't threaten Sanchez with getting cut because he and his agent know it would be a cap killer for the Jets.

02-08-2013, 11:32 AM	#68
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	@rabblerousr: @TonyPauline Thought you might like this article: http://t.co/wueWFP3Z

02-08-2013, 11:47 AM	#70
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,372	checked out Tony's post at DI and he clearly does not predict earthshaking BREAKING NEWS his 16 hour clock expires at 12:22 PM today..... however I am willing to give him an "inclement weather" extension (with no cap consequences) provided the news is that Teblow is being released

02-08-2013, 11:49 AM	#71
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,449	Conor Orr ‏@ConorTOrr #jets scouted him this season. RT @NFL_ATL: Report: Jets, Chiefs, Eagles 'think highly' of @SyracuseU QB Ryan Nassib http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...gn=Twitter_atl … That's most likely all this news is. Either that or the Sanchez contract restructure. Nothing really huge.

02-08-2013, 12:08 PM	#77
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,067	The only way I support a Sanchez restructure is if it makes him easier to get rid of next year. Anything that would make it tougher to dump him after this year would be a totally idiotic move. Perhaps they have told him he is going to get dumped next year for sure 100% then get together and make the best of it for both sides.