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Yankeejet22 · 02-09-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Only stupid teams pay players for what they did in the past.

Sean Ellis
Ocho Stinko
Fat Albert Haynesworth
Fred Taylor
Torry Holt
Kellen Winslow

detjetsfan · 02-09-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Only stupid teams pay players for what they did in the past.

Pats are not a stupid team.

Welker has played his last down for the Pats.

Welker's going nowhere this is negotiations. Who is giving Welker this big payday? Cincy has cap room but they already have receivers and have bigger needs. Ditto for Tampa they need defense. Welker fits Denver's offense but they already have slot receivers. Welker won't get a mega-deal but he'll get something significant from the Pats in the form of a 2-3 deal.

PatsFanTX · 02-09-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Yankeejet22

Sean Ellis
Ocho Stinko
Fat Albert Haynesworth
Fred Taylor
Torry Holt
Kellen Winslow

And the Pats paid those guys bottom dollar.

How's the Sanchez, Harris and Revis contract working out for you?

Perfect example of the difference between the Pats and Jets.

PatsFanTX · 02-09-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by detjetsfan

Welker's going nowhere this is negotiations. Who is giving Welker this big payday? Cincy has cap room but they already have receivers and have bigger needs. Ditto for Tampa they need defense. Welker fits Denver's offense but they already have slot receivers. Welker won't get a mega-deal but he'll get something significant from the Pats in the form of a 2-3 deal.

Unless the Pats tag Welker again, he is gone.

No way in hell the Pats give him a 2-3 year deal.

Dcat · 02-09-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

And the Pats paid those guys bottom dollar.

How's the Sanchez, Harris and Revis contract working out for you?

Perfect example of the difference between the Pats and Jets.

way overpaid Sean Ellis. $3 million for a guy who was destined to be close to vet minimum.

PatsFanTX · 02-09-2013, 03:39 PM

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way overpaid Sean Ellis. $3 million for a guy who was destined to be close to vet minimum.

Yep, that $3 mil put the Pats in cap hell.

Dcat · 02-09-2013, 04:19 PM

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Yep, that $3 mil put the Pats in cap hell.

when did I say that? Typical troll.

FF2® · 02-09-2013, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcat

when did I say that? Typical troll.

this is an insult to trolls.

Zombo · 02-10-2013, 11:17 AM

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Agree with all of this. But I have serious doubts that having Welker as the focal point of the offense is the way to playoff success. The Pats have only broken 20 points once in their last 5 playoff losses (21 against the Jets). I think their over-reliance on Welker has been a huge part of those offensive failures.

I think it has more to do with a poor defense than the offense being a problem. It's going to sometimes be tougher to score in the playoffs. If the defense was getting more stops and not solely relying on the big play to stop drives they'd be in better shape come playoff time. Teams know they can score on the NE defense now, so they get more aggressive on defense to stop Brady. It's not like the Super Bowl teams that had a defense that could get the stop when needed.

Mainejet · 02-10-2013, 11:21 AM

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Snoozy just reported on his radio show that he has his "sauces" that have been telling him that Welker is tired of being unappreciated by the Pats and their fans...

Says Welker will be flirting with the 49'ers once FA begins...

Would be nice for Brady to lose his security blanket...

Does Francesa have reliable info, or is this just BS?

It's got to be BS. Is there anything that this idiot ever says that is actually accurate? He doesn't know his own a$$ from his elbow.

With that said, I would love to see the Patsies without Welker. The Patsies would be fried without him. That would please me to no end.

It won't happen, but I would love for another team to get Welker.

Gastineau99 · 02-10-2013, 11:57 AM

It will be interesting to see how much losing Welker effects Brady. Brady didn't start putting up the huge numbers until Welker and Moss came to NE. Whenever Welker has been out of the lineup, Brady and the offensive production has gone way down. Look at the numbers from early this season when Belly was trying to send a message to Wes by keeping him out of the lineup.

Who knows, maybe Edelman or another player jumps right into the slot and they don't miss a beat, but I have a feeling that won't be the case. Hopefully, this is the beginning of the end for Tommy-boy

PatsFanTX · 02-10-2013, 12:12 PM

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Look at the numbers from early this season when Belly was trying to send a message to Wes by keeping him out of the lineup.

You mean like the opener against the Titans and then games against the Ravens and Bills?

The Pats scored 34, 30 and 52 points with Welker hardly being involved in the offense.

bcess · 02-10-2013, 01:12 PM

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You mean like the opener against the Titans and then games against the Ravens and Bills?

The Pats scored 34, 30 and 52 points with Welker hardly being involved in the offense.

Welker was 9 for 129 against the bills. And 8 for 142 against the ravens

Explain how that is hardly involved in the offense

The patriots started the season 1-2

PatsFanTX · 02-10-2013, 01:17 PM

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The patriots started the season 1-2

Yea, but they finished 11-2.

AFCEastFan · 02-10-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombo

I think it has more to do with a poor defense than the offense being a problem. It's going to sometimes be tougher to score in the playoffs. If the defense was getting more stops and not solely relying on the big play to stop drives they'd be in better shape come playoff time. Teams know they can score on the NE defense now, so they get more aggressive on defense to stop Brady. It's not like the Super Bowl teams that had a defense that could get the stop when needed.

Reasonable points, but I disagree. 49ers had a great D -- clearly better than the Pats -- yet the Ravens still hung 27 on them in the SB. Consistently scoring under 20 in big playoff games simply is not going to get it done in today's NFL. If the Patriots want to win another SB, they have to fix their offense first and foremost.

bcess · 02-10-2013, 01:34 PM

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Yea, but they finished 11-2.

Without welker? Let me check on that

Funaz · 02-10-2013, 04:12 PM

I think bb is smart enough not to give this jag big money. Watch him go to another team and put up numbers his talent level warrants.

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Gastineau99 · 02-10-2013, 04:54 PM

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Because the Pats play in a division with the Jets, Bills and Phins.

LOL... Once Brady retires, Belicheck will be right behind him, then it's back to the early 80s for you.

PatsFanTX · 02-10-2013, 05:13 PM

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LOL... Once Brady retires, Belicheck will be right behind him, then it's back to the early 80s for you.

Yea, my season ticket years, 1982-1992.

1-15 and 2-14 in there.

Thanks for reminding me.

patman · 02-10-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Yankeejet22

Sean Ellis
Ocho Stinko
Fat Albert Haynesworth
Fred Taylor
Torry Holt
Kellen Winslow

Kellen winlsow and torry holt cost 25,000 each, haynseworth did ot even get 5 game checks before he was cut. Stinko and Ellis were wastes

Taylor never even made 2mill a year with the pats.

02-10-2013, 11:57 AM	#71
Gastineau99 Section 135 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,344	It will be interesting to see how much losing Welker effects Brady. Brady didn't start putting up the huge numbers until Welker and Moss came to NE. Whenever Welker has been out of the lineup, Brady and the offensive production has gone way down. Look at the numbers from early this season when Belly was trying to send a message to Wes by keeping him out of the lineup. Who knows, maybe Edelman or another player jumps right into the slot and they don't miss a beat, but I have a feeling that won't be the case. Hopefully, this is the beginning of the end for Tommy-boy

02-10-2013, 04:12 PM	#77
Funaz Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,404	I think bb is smart enough not to give this jag big money. Watch him go to another team and put up numbers his talent level warrants. Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express