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DirtySanchez7 · 02-12-2013, 11:59 AM

I keep seeing people saying that we should trade for Percy Harvin. The reason it makes no sense is because he wants Vincent Jackson money and if we arent going to pay Revis why would they pay an injury prone WR huge money?

Joe W. Namath · 02-12-2013, 12:41 PM

The Jets arent going anywhere near Percy Harvin. Nothing to see here.

Demosthenes9 · 02-12-2013, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtySanchez7

I keep seeing people saying that we should trade for Percy Harvin. The reason it makes no sense is because he wants Vincent Jackson money and if we arent going to pay Revis why would they pay an injury prone WR huge money?

Would have to think that Harvin would score many more TDs than Revis ?

Down, Set, Haiku · 02-12-2013, 12:54 PM

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Would have to think that Harvin would score many more TDs than Revis ?

While missing a lot more games and being a locker room diva/cancer

JoePNYJ1 · 02-12-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtySanchez7

I keep seeing people saying that we should trade for Percy Harvin. The reason it makes no sense is because he wants Vincent Jackson money and if we arent going to pay Revis why would they pay an injury prone WR huge money?

I would pay him close to VJ's money because he is better than VJ. The guy is a monster playmaker on the field something the Jets sorely need after that 2012 embarrasment of an offense. He is an elite receiver and an elite runner. He would instantly improve our offense and would be a perfect fit for this team

Some of you guys on this site are insane! I really don't get it.

I would trade Cromartie for him in a package and maybe get another pick as well. Then figure out a way to sign Revis. Idzik will figure something out. Its not an impossible situation....its about being creative with the cap.

Untouchable · 02-12-2013, 12:59 PM

1. He's injury prone

2. He wants to be paid like a Top 5 receiver

3. Who's going to get him the ball?

Goodfellaz · 02-12-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Would have to think that Harvin would score many more TDs than Revis ?

With our current roster of QB's? Not likely.

JoePNYJ1 · 02-12-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

1. He's injury prone

2. He wants to be paid like a Top 5 receiver

3. Who's going to get him the ball?

1) Injury prone? before he got hurt in the 9th game of the season he played 16, 14, and 15 games respecfully so please tell me how that is injury prone? He is also 24 years old.
2) He is a top 5 receiver and a very good runner too.
3) Someone other than Sanchez who I think will be unseated as the starter by FA QB.

Untouchable · 02-12-2013, 01:16 PM

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1) Yeah so what? He is 24 so you are telling me that you are predicting an injury prone player? Stop being nostradamus!

2) He is a top 5 receiver and a very good runner too.
3) Someone other than Sanchez who I think will be unseated as the starter by FA QB.

1. Yeah, you're damn right I'm predicting an injury prone player. His migraine problems alone have caused him to miss games every season he's been in the league.

2. No, he's not. Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, A.J. Green, Larry Fitzgerald, and Andre Johnson are all better receivers. That's 5 right there off the top of my head.

3. We can only hope

JoePNYJ1 · 02-12-2013, 01:18 PM

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1. Yeah, you're damn right I'm predicting an injury prone player. His migraine problems alone have caused him to miss games every season he's been in the league.

2. No, he's not. Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, A.J. Green, Larry Fitzgerald, and Andre Johnson are all better receivers. That's 5 right there off the top of my head.

3. We can only hope

Andre Johnson? Hmmm isnt he injury prone? and Julio Jones? Mr. Drop a lot?

Untouchable · 02-12-2013, 01:20 PM

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Andre Johnson? Hmmm isnt he injury prone? and Julio Jones? Mr. Drop a lot?

Yeah, and possibly a future HOFer.

And you're nuts if you consider Harvin a bigger threat in the passing game than Julio Jones.

JoePNYJ1 · 02-12-2013, 01:24 PM

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Yeah, and possibly a future HOFer.

And you're nuts if you consider Harvin a bigger threat in the passing game than Julio Jones.

I never said that.... I said he drops quite a bit of passes. He also plays on a pass heavy elite offensive team. Compared to Harvin who plays with a subpar QB and a coach in Leslie Frazier that doesnt know how to run an offense.

MarkyMarkSanchez · 02-12-2013, 01:27 PM

love the way this guy plays but some of the people on this board are bat**** crazy for a dude who misses the majority of his games. As stated above he really isn't near a top 5 WR. A lot of things must happen to be considered a top five WR....such as playing football on Sundays to start.

JoePNYJ1 · 02-12-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMarkSanchez

love the way this guy plays but some of the people on this board are bat**** crazy for a dude who misses the majority of his games. As stated above he really isn't near a top 5 WR. A lot of things must happen to be considered a top five WR....such as playing football on Sundays to start.

However Andre Johnson is a top 5 wide receiver?? The guy has been injured almost every season.

Has he shown the elite numbers yet? no...but he has the ability to do so in the right situation. Elite speed, elite route running skills and he catches everthing thrown to him.

I have no doubt he will be an elite WR and it would be awful to think of him playing in a Dolphin or Pats uniform.

Beerfish · 02-12-2013, 01:39 PM

If the cost is high then obviously its a no go but the guy is a great player and as for the who gets him the ball comment. I guess that means we do not draft any offense at all until we get a good QB? You can get a play maker like Harvin the ball in a lot of simple ways.

I think there is little chance of the Jets showing interest in him but the guy is what the team needs, a guy that can make a lot of big plays out of very simple plays.

PatsFanTX · 02-12-2013, 02:54 PM

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However Andre Johnson is a top 5 wide receiver?? The guy has been injured almost every season.

Has he shown the elite numbers yet? no...but he has the ability to do so in the right situation. Elite speed, elite route running skills and he catches everthing thrown to him.

I have no doubt he will be an elite WR and it would be awful to think of him playing in a Dolphin or Pats uniform.

Injured every season?

In his 10-year career, Johnson has 5 seasons where he played every game.

Here are the total number of games played when he was injured:

2005- 13
2007- 9
2010- 13
2011- 7

So out of 160 games, Johnson has only missed 22 games due to injury.

Also, you don't think 1,500 yards is an elite number for a WR? Johnson has exceeded that 3 times, including last year.

He is an elite WR in the NFL.

long island leprechaun · 02-12-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JoePNYJ1

I would pay him close to VJ's money because he is better than VJ. The guy is a monster playmaker on the field something the Jets sorely need after that 2012 embarrasment of an offense. He is an elite receiver and an elite runner. He would instantly improve our offense and would be a perfect fit for this team

Some of you guys on this site are insane! I really don't get it.

I would trade Cromartie for him in a package and maybe get another pick as well. Then figure out a way to sign Revis. Idzik will figure something out. Its not an impossible situation....its about being creative with the cap.

Hey, Tanny, you were fired, remember? Go play with your dog...

Dreamers · 02-12-2013, 03:45 PM

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Injured every season?

In his 10-year career, Johnson has 5 seasons where he played every game.

Here are the total number of games played when he was injured:

2005- 13
2007- 9
2010- 13
2011- 7

So out of 160 games, Johnson has only missed 22 games due to injury.

Also, you don't think 1,500 yards is an elite number for a WR? Johnson has exceeded that 3 times, including last year.

He is an elite WR in the NFL.

Not to mention he has been opposite WRs anyone can cover almost his whole career so it has been all him.

detjetsfan · 02-12-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Would have to think that Harvin would score many more TDs than Revis ?

And Revis stops more TD's than Harvin scores. Probably by a significant margin. Let Revis earn his payday by being a shutdown CB for us next year. We lose him for nothing? No we get an additional $10 mil in cap room in 2014 when we're getting cap healthy anyway so we may end up being able to resign him outright anyway.

John McClane · 02-12-2013, 11:48 PM

Top 10 receivers, who can get into the end zone... never make sense.

Harvin made Ponder look like a real QB for the first half of this season, because he could make something out of every touch he got.

02-12-2013, 11:59 AM	#1
DirtySanchez7 Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 101	Why Harvin makes no sense I keep seeing people saying that we should trade for Percy Harvin. The reason it makes no sense is because he wants Vincent Jackson money and if we arent going to pay Revis why would they pay an injury prone WR huge money?

02-12-2013, 12:41 PM	#2
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,868	The Jets arent going anywhere near Percy Harvin. Nothing to see here.

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Untouchable Big whoop, wanna fight about it? Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,473	1. He's injury prone 2. He wants to be paid like a Top 5 receiver 3. Who's going to get him the ball?

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MarkyMarkSanchez cant wait Rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 661	love the way this guy plays but some of the people on this board are bat**** crazy for a dude who misses the majority of his games. As stated above he really isn't near a top 5 WR. A lot of things must happen to be considered a top five WR....such as playing football on Sundays to start.

02-12-2013, 01:39 PM	#15
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,116	If the cost is high then obviously its a no go but the guy is a great player and as for the who gets him the ball comment. I guess that means we do not draft any offense at all until we get a good QB? You can get a play maker like Harvin the ball in a lot of simple ways. I think there is little chance of the Jets showing interest in him but the guy is what the team needs, a guy that can make a lot of big plays out of very simple plays.

02-12-2013, 11:48 PM	#20
John McClane Die Hard. Jets fan. Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 356	Top 10 receivers, who can get into the end zone... never make sense. Harvin made Ponder look like a real QB for the first half of this season, because he could make something out of every touch he got.