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Beerfish · 02-12-2013, 05:14 PM

A few tidbits from Andrew Perloffs article about the Jets coming off season from CNNSI.

65.6. Mark Sanchez's completion percentage not counting drops, throwaways, spikes and batted passes as attempts -- lowest in the NFL -- according to Pro Football Focus.

According to to Pro Football Focus, free-agent Shonn Greene averaged one forced missed tackle every 5.42 carries -- the worst mark in the NFL.

Blech....

McGinley · 02-12-2013, 05:16 PM

EXTEND DEY ASS!

Untouchable · 02-12-2013, 05:18 PM

Well yeah but didn't you hear?

Mornhinweg is about to wave his magical wand and turn Sanchez into The Truth.

Jetworks · 02-12-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

A few tidbits from Andrew Perloffs article about the Jets coming off season from CNNSI.

65.6. Mark Sanchez's completion percentage not counting drops, throwaways, spikes and batted passes as attempts -- lowest in the NFL -- according to Pro Football Focus.

According to to Pro Football Focus, free-agent Shonn Greene averaged one forced missed tackle every 5.42 carries -- the worst mark in the NFL.

Blech....

Could you link us to the article, buddy?

Beerfish · 02-12-2013, 05:23 PM

Also our oline is terrible in all ways.....oh wait the stats said otherwise and Greene couldn't find a hole if his life depended on it. (Tosses up softball for jokes.)

Beerfish · 02-12-2013, 05:25 PM

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Could you link us to the article, buddy?

Here you go pal.

Apache 51 · 02-12-2013, 05:27 PM

point?

Jetworks · 02-12-2013, 05:27 PM

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Here you go pal.

Thanks. Was hoping for the PFF article. I guess I'll head over there and drudge through the stats page.

Savage69 · 02-12-2013, 06:44 PM

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Also our oline is terrible in all ways.....oh wait the stats said otherwise and Greene couldn't find a hole if his life depended on it. (Tosses up softball for jokes.)

Ok Greene had 1063yds on 276 carries and 8 td's with a 3.9 ypc.. We both agree it was not good.. In 98 Saint Cumar had 8 td's 3.5 ypc 1287 yds on 93 more carries.. I would say in 98 the QB play plus the w/r's were better then 2012.. Can we then say they both sucked in 2012 and 1998?? Or are you too much of a Martinette to agree??

Untouchable · 02-12-2013, 06:54 PM

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Ok Greene had 1063yds on 276 carries and 8 td's with a 3.9 ypc.. We both agree it was not good.. In 98 Saint Cumar had 8 td's 3.5 ypc 1287 yds on 93 more carries.. I would say in 98 the QB play plus the w/r's were better then 2012.. Can we then say they both sucked in 2012 and 1998?? Or are you too much of a Martinette to agree??

Did Curtis break into your house and rape you or something?

Mainejet · 02-12-2013, 07:29 PM

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Well yeah but didn't you hear?

Mornhinweg is about to wave his magical wand and turn Sanchez into The Truth.

Mornhinweg is no doubt getting a mulligan for the 2013 season. Woody, Rex, and John know that Sanchez is done as an NFL QB. They just can't do anything about that absurd contract extension Tanny gave him. They are going to keep him at least until the end of the 2013 season.

So they are saying the right things. Never throwing players under the bus. But there's no way Mornhinweg accepted this job without getting confirmation that no matter how much Sanchez f*cks the Jets in 2013, he will not be the fall guy.

Rexipus Rex · 02-12-2013, 07:54 PM

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Ok Greene had 1063yds on 276 carries and 8 td's with a 3.9 ypc.. We both agree it was not good.. In 98 Saint Cumar had 8 td's 3.5 ypc 1287 yds on 93 more carries.. I would say in 98 the QB play plus the w/r's were better then 2012.. Can we then say they both sucked in 2012 and 1998?? Or are you too much of a Martinette to agree??

Martin also didn't have stone hands and caught more than double the passes Greene caught last year (43 for Martin, 19 for Greene).

I would also argue that for RBs, durability is a skill. In Martin's 10 year streak of 1,000+ yards, he missed a grand total of 4 games. Explosive he was not; durable, reliable, and well-rounded he was. Greene is merely a between the tackles plodder whose best days are behind him despite the fact he's only 27.

Rexipus Rex · 02-12-2013, 08:00 PM

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Here you go pal.

Not a bad article.

One pet peeve I noticed in the article: They misspelled Wilkerson's first name. I know it's an extremely minor detail, but who the hell are the editors on this? A quick google search to double check the spellings takes literally no time to do. I see it far too often from reputable outlets. It's unacceptable in today's day and age.

bcess · 02-12-2013, 08:18 PM

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Martin also didn't have stone hands and caught more than double the passes Greene caught last year (43 for Martin, 19 for Greene).

I would also argue that for RBs, durability is a skill. In Martin's 10 year streak of 1,000+ yards, he missed a grand total of 4 games. Explosive he was not; durable, reliable, and well-rounded he was. Greene is merely a between the tackles plodder whose best days are behind him despite the fact he's only 27.

Greene may not have good hands, but Sanchez threw the worst dump off passes I have ever seen, either too high, too low of waaay too hard when his RB was about 8 feet from him. I think he was overly concerned with getting picked right at the line of scrimmage which seemed to happen an awful lot 2 years ago.

Joe W. Namath · 02-12-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Ok Greene had 1063yds on 276 carries and 8 td's with a 3.9 ypc.. We both agree it was not good.. In 98 Saint Cumar had 8 td's 3.5 ypc 1287 yds on 93 more carries.. I would say in 98 the QB play plus the w/r's were better then 2012.. Can we then say they both sucked in 2012 and 1998?? Or are you too much of a Martinette to agree??

Compiler.

DDNYjets · 02-12-2013, 09:23 PM

LOL

That 2009 draft looked great in 2009.

RMJK · 02-12-2013, 09:48 PM

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Did Curtis break into your house and rape you or something?

I think 4.0 is a good avg; 3.5 is below average; 4.5 is a superstar. Tight window and a lot depends on a lot of factors including OL.

jetfaninmickeymouseland · 02-12-2013, 09:59 PM

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Not a bad article.

One pet peeve I noticed in the article: They misspelled Wilkerson's first name. I know it's an extremely minor detail, but who the hell are the editors on this? A quick google search to double check the spellings takes literally no time to do. I see it far too often from reputable outlets. It's unacceptable in today's day and age.

I think that Hill was the 2nd round pick, not the first as stated in the article

JoeJam Football · 02-12-2013, 10:11 PM

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Greene may not have good hands, but Sanchez threw the worst dump off passes I have ever seen, either too high, too low of waaay too hard when his RB was about 8 feet from him. I think he was overly concerned with getting picked right at the line of scrimmage which seemed to happen an awful lot 2 years ago.

I'm glad somebody else saw how bad Sanchez's passes to Greene were. I didn't see a good pass to Greene all year. I mean we are talking 5 to 10 yard passes and every one sucked. Sanchez has happy feet. Maybe he can be fixed and maybe not. Greene is best as a second back. We've seen it work .
A fresh Greene in the 4th qtr is a player nobody wants to tackle. Also remember teams consistently had 8 in the box against the Jets because obviously they couldn't pass. Greene simply isn't a Curtis Martin but they Jets tried to make him such. Use him properly and he wins games in the 3rd and 4th qtrs. use him all game and he's average. Jets have done almost everything wrong on offense from the plays to the game plan to mis using the players to picking the wrong players and wrong coaches. Hope things have reversed is all I've got to say.

ARodFLKeysJetsFan · 02-12-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

A few tidbits from Andrew Perloffs article about the Jets coming off season from CNNSI.

According to to Pro Football Focus, free-agent Shonn Greene averaged one forced missed tackle every 5.42 carries -- the worst mark in the NFL.

Blech....

I don't understand all the Shonn Greene hate.

Greene is a downhill runner, he is not a scat-back that jukes to make people miss.

He may not be a game changer but he has been servicable his last 2 years as the #1 RB, coming off his second straight thousand yard season with 8 TD's last season.

Greene has also only missed 2 starts the last 2 seasons.

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Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,066	They are who we thought they were.... A few tidbits from Andrew Perloffs article about the Jets coming off season from CNNSI. 65.6. Mark Sanchez's completion percentage not counting drops, throwaways, spikes and batted passes as attempts -- lowest in the NFL -- according to Pro Football Focus. According to to Pro Football Focus, free-agent Shonn Greene averaged one forced missed tackle every 5.42 carries -- the worst mark in the NFL. Blech....

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McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,433	EXTEND DEY ASS!

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Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,403	Well yeah but didn't you hear? Mornhinweg is about to wave his magical wand and turn Sanchez into The Truth.

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Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,066	Also our oline is terrible in all ways.....oh wait the stats said otherwise and Greene couldn't find a hole if his life depended on it. (Tosses up softball for jokes.)

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DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,222	LOL That 2009 draft looked great in 2009.