Per Rotoworld: Laron Landry seeking $6 million a year - Page 2 - Jets Insider.com Forums

LockeJET · 02-14-2013, 03:16 PM

They are not using the money towards Revis. Revis is a goner. Noway hes on the roster opening day. It sucks but it is a way for the Jets to rebuild faster. Had we been a contender, Revis wouldn't be going anywhere. But facts are facts and this team needs a lot. We need way to much to pay a CB close to 100 mil.

Landry will easily get 6 mil per. Someone will fork over 5/30 or 6/36. It's not a crazy deal and other safeties are making more.

patman · 02-14-2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by King P

So what's the verdict?

Is Landry worth 6 mil a year? Seems a bit expensive for a safety. I'm sure Landry will test the market, but I doubt he'll get that much. I'll take him back for 4 mil a hyear. Anything more, forget about it.

So you don't think he deserves more money based on how he played this year.

fnordcircle · 02-14-2013, 03:27 PM

I don't think the Jets should commit 6/mil a year to this guy. Your team needs a pretty solid roster overhaul to lose a lot of dead weight and bring on some new guys. I think it is a minimum 2 seasons before they're competing for the division again and by that time they would have sunk 6-12m into a player who is getting up there.

They're not a LaRon Landry away from competing.

Redlichtie · 02-14-2013, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Long Suffering Jets Fan

So he's asking for 6 and was making 4. Probably settle for 5. Trade Cromartie and he brings back 1.25M this year and 9.75M next year. I say definitely resign Landry at this price. Draft a free safety. Resign Revis and we'll be fine.

I love the idea that you have to keep talent no matter what the position they play but in the reality of the salary cap era resigning Revis & Landry on what will be big multi-year deals will mean a lot of cap tied up in two 28 year olds coming off a major ACL injury and long term chronic Achilles problem.As much as I want them both to be Jets that's a little scary in reality

heymangold · 02-14-2013, 03:43 PM

i'd spend it for landry. a safety that is feared over the middle, plays VERY well down in the box, blitzes like a mad man and is decent in coverage is a HUGE plus for the defense. move landry to strong safety and draft a free safety.

it might be a reach, but i've seen Vaccaro from Texas linked to us at #9. he's a solid FS, and with landry at SS, thats a duo i'd love to see.

Redlichtie · 02-14-2013, 03:46 PM

[QUOTE=fnordcircle;4812873]I don't think the Jets should commit 6/mil a year to this guy. Your team needs a pretty solid roster overhaul to lose a lot of dead weight and bring on some new guys. I think it is a minimum 2 seasons before they're competing for the division again and by that time they would have sunk 6-12m into a player who is getting up there.

They're not a LaRon Landry away from competing.[/QUOTE]

Which team is an injury prone 28 year old looking for big $$ away from competing?

Yankeejet22 · 02-14-2013, 03:57 PM

If I'm Idzy, I wouldn't break the bank on him. I'd offer him a 3 year 12 mil and if he no like, no problem. Move on.

TJ · 02-14-2013, 04:37 PM

We can draft Eric Reid for one third the price

Apache 51 · 02-14-2013, 04:39 PM

It's not about what he wants, it's about what we can afford.

Goodfellaz · 02-14-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Redlichtie

Revis & Landry on what will be big multi-year deals will mean a lot of cap tied up in two 28 year olds coming off a major ACL injury and long term chronic Achilles problem.As much as I want them both to be Jets that's a little scary in reality

You do realize we have Cromartie counting $10.75M against the cap for 2013 and he had an ACL tear as well? Everyone that's scared of signing Revis because of the ACL doesn't seem to notice that Cro bounced back no problem.

chrisjets23 · 02-14-2013, 06:29 PM

I think he's a great safety but 6 mil is too much. I don't think he can stay healthy for the long-term so it's not worth the investment.

Dreamers · 02-14-2013, 06:32 PM

3 years 12 mil he is not worth 6 mil.

Long Suffering Jets Fan · 02-14-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodfellaz

You do realize we have Cromartie counting $10.75M against the cap for 2013 and he had an ACL tear as well? Everyone that's scared of signing Revis because of the ACL doesn't seem to notice that Cro bounced back no problem.

Personally I'm making the assumption that before we sign Revis we would need to be comfortable with his progress. Cromartie is an excellent player, but if one had to go it should be Cromartie. He's coming of an all pro year and he'll be 29 years of age this season. This may be the last year we can actually cash in on him. We'd also save cap money this year and next. Revis would actually cost us $3M to trade.

detjetsfan · 02-14-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

Im worried that the injuries will pop up again the minute he signs the deal.

The injuries will absolutely pop up again with Landry. Last year was a fluke he is very injury prone. However, we cannot lose both Landry and Revis this off-season we will end up with the most putrid secondary in the NFL next season.

Dunnie · 02-14-2013, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by King P

It doesn't matter. He's 35 years old and can easily be replaced.

He won't be back next year.

Bell played better than Landry last year IMHO. Landry wiffed more than a few times, and went for the big hit rather than the tackle. I recognize that Landry is the better talent, but he is an enforcer in an era where enforcers have been gelded.

Demosthenes9 · 02-14-2013, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunnie

Bell played better than Landry last year IMHO. Landry wiffed more than a few times, and went for the big hit rather than the tackle. I recognize that Landry is the better talent, but he is an enforcer in an era where enforcers have been gelded.

I seem to recall Landry laying out quite a few hits that weren't penalized or fined, so its premature to say that enforcers have been gelded. As discussed before, they just have to be more selective with their timing

That said, the key points have been hit upon. $6 mil is not an unreasonable price for a really good safety. Landry has a history of getting injured, so that is a concern. The Jets are in a tight financial situation AND will probably be rebuilding, so its questionable whether to pay that much for a safety for the next 2 years.

So, presuming you can sign him Landry to an incentive based contract to protect against injury, are we in a complete rebuild mode ? Or are we just kind of retooling ?

Dunnie · 02-14-2013, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

I seem to recall Landry laying out quite a few hits that weren't penalized or fined, so its premature to say that enforcers have been gelded. As discussed before, they just have to be more selective with their timing

That said, the key points have been hit upon. $6 mil is not an unreasonable price for a really good safety. Landry has a history of getting injured, so that is a concern. The Jets are in a tight financial situation AND will probably be rebuilding, so its questionable whether to pay that much for a safety for the next 2 years.

So, presuming you can sign him Landry to an incentive based contract to protect against injury, are we in a complete rebuild mode ? Or are we just kind of retooling ?

If rebuilding .... The question may be ....

Is a 2 million Bell worth more than a 6 million Landry.

FijiJet · 02-14-2013, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcoops

Not a ridiculous asking price for a player of his quality.

Of course, as the team, you'd want injury protections written into the deal - the kind of per-game active bonuses that Landry earned with the Jets this year.

Trouble is, from the player's and agent's perspective, that's the last thing you want to agree to. They will be pushing hard for a big guaranteed number up-front, which would be a major risk for any team given his injury history.

In a perfect world, if we had the cap room, I'd probably offer him near his asking price with some injury offset language. But I don't think it will happen - he will go somewhere with more cap room for a bigger guarantee.

Agreed. He's at least as good as Tyvon Branch when healthy. The injury history is a bit daunting though so as mentioned the Jets will need to be protected and build in the incentives in his contract towards a full game season.

LB54 · 02-15-2013, 02:27 AM

Give him the 6m per year!
We need a guy like him at safety. He makes opponent WRs not go over the middle, plus he also proved he can be a ballhawk and go for a pick and take it to the house

Baddniss · 02-15-2013, 03:05 AM

Landry played great last season for us, BUT I predict we sign Bills FA Safety Jarius Byrd !!!

This guy is a play-maker, and he is young, with lots of solid future ahead of him...with God-in-Cleats (Ed Reed) probably playing only 1 more year, Byrd could step up as the next TOP NFL safety...

02-14-2013, 03:16 PM	#21
LockeJET pooping, but thinking of you! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 15,969	They are not using the money towards Revis. Revis is a goner. Noway hes on the roster opening day. It sucks but it is a way for the Jets to rebuild faster. Had we been a contender, Revis wouldn't be going anywhere. But facts are facts and this team needs a lot. We need way to much to pay a CB close to 100 mil. Landry will easily get 6 mil per. Someone will fork over 5/30 or 6/36. It's not a crazy deal and other safeties are making more.

02-14-2013, 03:27 PM	#23
fnordcircle Pats fan Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 110	I don't think the Jets should commit 6/mil a year to this guy. Your team needs a pretty solid roster overhaul to lose a lot of dead weight and bring on some new guys. I think it is a minimum 2 seasons before they're competing for the division again and by that time they would have sunk 6-12m into a player who is getting up there. They're not a LaRon Landry away from competing.

02-14-2013, 03:43 PM	#25
heymangold No Relation. Rookie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 760	i'd spend it for landry. a safety that is feared over the middle, plays VERY well down in the box, blitzes like a mad man and is decent in coverage is a HUGE plus for the defense. move landry to strong safety and draft a free safety. it might be a reach, but i've seen Vaccaro from Texas linked to us at #9. he's a solid FS, and with landry at SS, thats a duo i'd love to see.

02-14-2013, 03:46 PM	#26
Redlichtie Ready for Broadway Geno in 2013 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,096	[QUOTE=fnordcircle;4812873]I don't think the Jets should commit 6/mil a year to this guy. Your team needs a pretty solid roster overhaul to lose a lot of dead weight and bring on some new guys. I think it is a minimum 2 seasons before they're competing for the division again and by that time they would have sunk 6-12m into a player who is getting up there. They're not a LaRon Landry away from competing.[/QUOTE] Which team is an injury prone 28 year old looking for big $$ away from competing?

02-14-2013, 03:57 PM	#27
Yankeejet22 You didn't show them, Mark :( All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: northern jersey Posts: 2,504	If I'm Idzy, I wouldn't break the bank on him. I'd offer him a 3 year 12 mil and if he no like, no problem. Move on.

02-14-2013, 04:37 PM	#28
TJ Con Ritmo Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: San Diego Posts: 6,021	We can draft Eric Reid for one third the price

02-14-2013, 04:39 PM	#29
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,816	It's not about what he wants, it's about what we can afford.

02-14-2013, 06:29 PM	#31
chrisjets23 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 726	I think he's a great safety but 6 mil is too much. I don't think he can stay healthy for the long-term so it's not worth the investment.

02-14-2013, 06:32 PM	#32
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,428	3 years 12 mil he is not worth 6 mil.

02-15-2013, 02:27 AM	#39
LB54 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,389	Give him the 6m per year! We need a guy like him at safety. He makes opponent WRs not go over the middle, plus he also proved he can be a ballhawk and go for a pick and take it to the house

02-15-2013, 03:05 AM	#40
Baddniss Hall of Fame...First Ballot Inductee...Canton,Ohio...2009 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,500	Landry played great last season for us, BUT I predict we sign Bills FA Safety Jarius Byrd !!! This guy is a play-maker, and he is young, with lots of solid future ahead of him...with God-in-Cleats (Ed Reed) probably playing only 1 more year, Byrd could step up as the next TOP NFL safety...