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ucrenegade · 02-15-2013, 07:39 PM

if your a christian you love the sinner but hate the sin.............it does not mean we are anti-gay just anti-choice because it is IMO the wrong one.

ucrenegade · 02-15-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

I skimmed the article and didn't see where Tebow was saying anything anti-gay, but him being a Christian, it wouldn't surprise me. Homosexuality as a big no-no according to Christian doctrine.

However, why Tebow would choose to speak for a church who's Pastor has made some outrageous claims (Obama leads to the Antichrist, Islam/Judaism/Mormonism religions are "from the pit of hell", "70% of gays have AIDS", There's a link between homosexuality and pedophilia).

Anyway, I don't really care. It's Tim's choice to do as he pleases, and I'll respect that. We WILL be getting rid of him, though, haha.

are you idzik? link?

SizzleBear287 · 02-15-2013, 07:54 PM

Maybe if Tim Tebow was actually a good QB, this would fly under the radar. But no, he can't throw AND he's an ignorant sc*mbag.

McGinley · 02-15-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ucrenegade

are you idzik? link?

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/...ob07A6qsNn7L7L

Now go cry on your Tebow shrine.

McGinley · 02-15-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ucrenegade

if your a christian you love the sinner but hate the sin.............it does not mean we are anti-gay just anti-choice because it is IMO the wrong one.

Yes, how DARE people think and choose for themselves!

Badaxe · 02-15-2013, 08:06 PM

Start Tebow immediately (salary is peanuts) and begin the process of becoming a true, physical, tough football team.

Cut the turnover King and noodle arm asap. Eat the 21 Million in sunk cost and get it over with already...

Bring in a cheap ass FA QB and draft one.

Check your sexual and religious crap at the door.

McGinley · 02-15-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Badaxe

Start Tebow immediately (salary is peanuts) and begin the process of becoming a true, physical, tough football team.

Cut the turnover King and noodle arm asap. Eat the 21 Million in sunk cost and get it over with already...

Bring in a cheap ass FA QB and draft one.

Check your sexual and religious crap at the door.

lol no. His useless ass is on his way to the CFL.

ucrenegade · 02-15-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/...ob07A6qsNn7L7L

Now go cry on your Tebow shrine.

oh i am sorry i didn't know we hired the source for GM stupid me I thought we hired idzik................

ucrenegade · 02-15-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Yes, how DARE people think and choose for themselves!

i never said they couldn't choose I just think they are being influenced to make the wrong choice but again I love the sinner not the sin.

McGinley · 02-15-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ucrenegade

oh i am sorry i didn't know we hired the source for GM stupid me I thought we hired idzik................

lol, keep grasping at those straws!

McGinley · 02-15-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ucrenegade

i never said they couldn't choose I just think they are being influenced to make the wrong choice but again I love the sinner not the sin.

Influenced? You logic is failing because you actually think it's a choice. You can't help what and who you like. That's what Christians don't understand.

Raider9175 · 02-15-2013, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Influenced? You logic is failing because you actually think it's a choice. You can't help what and who you like. That's what Christians don't understand.

So when did you come to this conclusion for yourself.

ucrenegade · 02-15-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Influenced? You logic is failing because you actually think it's a choice. You can't help what and who you like. That's what Christians don't understand.

everything in life we do is a choice i choose to be with a female but it still is a choice so yes it is a choice.

McGinley · 02-15-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider9175

So when did you come to this conclusion for yourself.

Probably some time after I quit going to church. I stopped listening to people trying to tell me what gay people were and, for the lack of a better term, listened to my own heart. That, and speaking with people I'd met who were gay, I realized that they don't choose to like their own sex just like I don't choose to like the opposite sex. You are or you aren't.

McGinley · 02-15-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ucrenegade

everything in life we do is a choice i choose to be with a female but it still is a choice so yes it is a choice.

I'm not talking about choosing to be in a relationship. There's a difference between liking a certain gender and being in a relationship.

Why do you choose to be in a relationship with a female? Because you LIKE females. On the flipside, my buddy Kevin chooses to be in a relationship with a man because he LIKES men.

MykePM · 02-15-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ucrenegade

everything in life we do is a choice i choose to be with a female but it still is a choice so yes it is a choice.

And how would you feel if people started telling you that you were a sinner because you made that choice?

bullitt929 · 02-15-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ucrenegade

everything in life we do is a choice i choose to be with a female but it still is a choice so yes it is a choice.

And do you choose to get hungry?

Raider9175 · 02-15-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Probably some time after I quit going to church. I stopped listening to people trying to tell me what gay people were and, for the lack of a better term, listened to my own heart. That, and speaking with people I'd met who were gay, I realized that they don't choose to like their own sex just like I don't choose to like the opposite sex. You are or you aren't.

I think everyone has a right to find happiness. What you do with your life is your own business. So even though that might not be my lifestyle, that doesn't make you a bad person. I* don't have a problem with Tebow voicing his objection(his viewpoint) as long as he doesn't resort to violence .

Like antiabortion groups. Hey you have a right to object to that(peacefully) but when you take action like killing a doctor. You're no better than the person getting an abortion. Killing is Killing. Does that make me right? NO but just my point of view.

McGinley · 02-15-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider9175

I think everyone has a right to find happiness. What you do with your life is your own business. So even though that might not be my lifestyle, that doesn't make you a bad person. I* don't have a problem with Tebow voicing his objection(his viewpoint) as long as he doesn't resort to violence .

Like antiabortion groups. Hey you have a right to object to that(peacefully) but when you take action like killing a doctor. You're no better than the person getting an abortion. Killing is Killing.

I'm fine with him voicing his opinion, though I didn't see where he gave any comment on it. I was speaking specifically about the silly notion that gays choose to be gay.

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 02-15-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Influenced? You logic is failing because you actually think it's a choice. You can't help what and who you like. That's what Christians don't understand.

He's talking about abortion. Women who want them obviously can't think for themselves because they're 'being influenced'. Someone's clearly hypnotizing them.

02-15-2013, 07:39 PM	#21
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,004	if your a christian you love the sinner but hate the sin.............it does not mean we are anti-gay just anti-choice because it is IMO the wrong one.

02-15-2013, 07:54 PM	#23
SizzleBear287 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409	Maybe if Tim Tebow was actually a good QB, this would fly under the radar. But no, he can't throw AND he's an ignorant sc*mbag.

02-15-2013, 08:06 PM	#26
Badaxe I can see Russia from here... Waterboy Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Alaska Posts: 99	Start Tebow immediately (salary is peanuts) and begin the process of becoming a true, physical, tough football team. Cut the turnover King and noodle arm asap. Eat the 21 Million in sunk cost and get it over with already... Bring in a cheap ass FA QB and draft one. Check your sexual and religious crap at the door.