NFL Combine Thread, Saturday 2/23 - TE/OL/STs - Page 8 - Jets Insider.com Forums

C Mart · 02-24-2013, 05:21 PM

@jetswhispers: "This is the best safety class I've seen in years." - Mike Mayock

@jetswhispers: FIU safety Jonathan Cyprien is rising up the charts. Great kid. Graduated in 3.5 years.

Redlichtie · 02-24-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

Uh, I think the shoes are broken. Dude just ran slower than two OTs.

LOL I think the shoes went from gold to red and all the way back down to gold again before he was done running

Still probably going to be a good back though,what did Arian Foster run?

C Mart · 02-24-2013, 05:25 PM

@Gil_Brandt: Just walked out of stadium with Margus Hunt. Asked me how he could get back in. Wanted to grab shoes at hotel and come back to practice 40s.

C Mart · 02-24-2013, 05:28 PM

@mortreport: Utah DT Star Lotulelei, projected top five 5 draft pick, will not work out after echocardiogram detected heart condition. Filed to ESPN.

@mortreport: Lotulelei's left ventricle is pumping at 44 percent efficiency - normal range is 55-70 percent. He will undergo more tests in Salt Lake City

detectivekimble · 02-24-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Redlichtie

LOL I think the shoes went from gold to red and all the way back down to gold again before he was done running

Still probably going to be a good back though,what did Arian Foster run?

4.69

DDNYjets · 02-24-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

@mortreport: Utah DT Star Lotulelei, projected top five 5 draft pick, will not work out after echocardiogram detected heart condition. Filed to ESPN.

@mortreport: Lotulelei's left ventricle is pumping at 44 percent efficiency - normal range is 55-70 percent. He will undergo more tests in Salt Lake City

Wow. That is a shame.

detectivekimble · 02-24-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

I asked you to name one successful RB in today's NFL who ran 4.7 -- you can't because he does not exist.

That is his timed speed, running on the same track as his peers. That's how fast he is. Maybe his game speed is a little faster, but not by much. On tape, he looks like a marginally athletic, well-rounded player with smarts... and you can get away with that in college. Not so much in the NFL.

If given the option of picking Molasses Taylor or a comparably skilled RB (Gillislee, Franklin, Barner, Jamison) with average to above-average speed, I'll take the faster guy every single time.

I mentioned OL players running faster just to offer some perspective on how slow Taylor ran. He was in the same class as men 8 inches taller and 100 pound heaver. That's terrible.

Arian Foster

FreshBaked 24 7 · 02-24-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by detectivekimble

Arian Foster

And he didn't get selected the first two days. Not to memtion a majority of his production didn't come against PAC12 defenses

legler82 · 02-24-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

Don't care that Taylor ran a 4.7

I still want this guy.

You should; the Jets are slow enough as it is.

TheMikeIsHot · 02-24-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by detectivekimble

Arian Foster

Foster ran 4.69, almost a tenth faster than Taylor with 4.76.

There are certain minimum physical requirements to be an NFL player. Can't have a 270 pound OG. Can't have a 4.8 RB either.

There are plenty of other talented players to choose from. I just don't need this guy. Let someone else take him.

Redlichtie · 02-24-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

Foster ran 4.69, almost a tenth faster than Taylor with 4.76.

There are certain minimum physical requirements to be an NFL player. Can't have a 270 pound OG. Can't have a 4.8 RB either.

There are plenty of other talented players to choose from. I just don't need this guy. Let someone else take him.

I broadly agree with you and I'm not a fan of Taylor anyway.I certainly have a bunch of other backs I'd rather draft but guys like Evan Royster and Alfred Morris are making successful NFL careers despite running dreadfully poorly at the combine.Even Shonn Grene ran a 4.62 and went top of Rd 3.

I really don't believe that .8 of a second makes that much of a difference,both are pretty slow

No question 4.76 is shocking and will affect his draft position but he still has a pro day to try to improve on that.Lots of guys have aberrations at the combine(Akeem Ayers comes to mind)

detectivekimble · 02-24-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

Foster ran 4.69, almost a tenth faster than Taylor with 4.76.

There are certain minimum physical requirements to be an NFL player. Can't have a 270 pound OG. Can't have a 4.8 RB either.

There are plenty of other talented players to choose from. I just don't need this guy. Let someone else take him.

You said name a successful RB who ran a 4.7. I just did.

You were obviously wrong.

King P · 02-24-2013, 06:26 PM

Let's be honest, we all know that Fosters success is owed to Kubiak's ZBS.

TheMikeIsHot · 02-24-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by detectivekimble

You said name a successful RB who ran a 4.7. I just did.

You were obviously wrong.

Technically, I'm right. 4.69 is very very close but it's not 4.7 haha.

I just hope the Jets draft a running back who can really run. Taylor is too slow and he's not the right player for this team IMO. This team needs explosive players, not another 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy.

King P · 02-24-2013, 08:04 PM

4.8 is really too for a RB, unless your a FB.

Even Brandon Jacobs fatass ran a sub 4.6.

Hell, even the slower QBs can run that fast Jawalrus Russell ran a 4.8

detectivekimble · 02-24-2013, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

Technically, I'm right. 4.69 is very very close but it's not 4.7 haha.

I just hope the Jets draft a running back who can really run. Taylor is too slow and he's not the right player for this team IMO. This team needs explosive players, not another 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy.

I don't have an opinion on this player either way. Just saying that it isn't unprecedented for a 4.7 RB to succeed.

I like Powell, but agree that we need another legit back to compliment him.

Beerfish · 02-24-2013, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

That does matter for RBs. I would never draft a RB who ran slower than some OL players.

Name a successful NFL back who is this slow.

Arian foster ran a 4.71 at his pro day.

Paradis · 02-25-2013, 12:45 AM

Woods was the truth out there today. I want him.

Heard about Moore... 12 reps? Take him off the board.

TheMikeIsHot · 02-25-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paradis

Woods was the truth out there today. I want him.

Heard about Moore... 12 reps? Take him off the board.

Yes. Woods is my under the radar guy this year.

02-24-2013, 05:21 PM	#141
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,302	@jetswhispers: "This is the best safety class I've seen in years." - Mike Mayock @jetswhispers: FIU safety Jonathan Cyprien is rising up the charts. Great kid. Graduated in 3.5 years.

02-24-2013, 05:25 PM	#143
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,302	@Gil_Brandt: Just walked out of stadium with Margus Hunt. Asked me how he could get back in. Wanted to grab shoes at hotel and come back to practice 40s.

02-24-2013, 05:28 PM	#144
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,302	@mortreport: Utah DT Star Lotulelei, projected top five 5 draft pick, will not work out after echocardiogram detected heart condition. Filed to ESPN. @mortreport: Lotulelei's left ventricle is pumping at 44 percent efficiency - normal range is 55-70 percent. He will undergo more tests in Salt Lake City

02-24-2013, 06:26 PM	#153
King P Rookie Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NY Posts: 869	Let's be honest, we all know that Fosters success is owed to Kubiak's ZBS.

02-24-2013, 08:04 PM	#155
King P Rookie Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NY Posts: 869	4.8 is really too for a RB, unless your a FB. Even Brandon Jacobs fatass ran a sub 4.6. Hell, even the slower QBs can run that fast Jawalrus Russell ran a 4.8

02-25-2013, 12:45 AM	#158
Paradis Is waiting for Ryan Mallet All Pro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the 80s Posts: 7,107	Woods was the truth out there today. I want him. Heard about Moore... 12 reps? Take him off the board.