New Mock (Cro trade)

[NYJCAP2]

Originally Posted by Yankeejet22

+1

I honestly wouldn't even look at a OG in the draft 'til the 5th/6th round.

Draft;

Pass rushers (preferably two), whether they're LB'ers or DLinemen.
RB
WR
TE
OT
QB

Here you go, for the sake of it:

1 Ezekial Ansah OLB
2 Ryan Nassib QB
3 Brian Winters OG
4 Denard Robinson WR
5 Jawan Jamison RB
6 Josh Johnson CB
7 Joe Kruger DE

[patman]

Originally Posted by NYJCAP2

Here you go, for the sake of it:

1 Ezekial Ansah OLB
2 Ryan Nassib QB
3 Brian Winters OG
4 Denard Robinson WR
5 Jawan Jamison RB
6 Josh Johnson CB
7 Joe Kruger DE

Robinson in the 4th, why? The guy has not shown that he can play WR and you want to use a "top 100" pick on him? Why do you see Kruger so late? 6'6 280
6 sacks and 8TFL and you have him lasting until the 7th. throw in the bloodlines and you can switch him and Denard and make more sense. If the advisory board gave him a 7th rd grade I doubt he would have left early.

[legler82]

Originally Posted by patman

Robinson in the 4th, why? The guy has not shown that he can play WR and you want to use a "top 100" pick on him?

I'm starting to be intrigued by the idea of drafting Robinson if he is available in the 4th or later to play RB. While he may be a project as WR, I think his best chance to contribute right away and probably long term is at running back, situational at first and more later.

There's a lot of nuance with playing WR whereas running back is very instinctual. He's proven he has those instincts. You'd be hard pressed to find a running back prospect with better highlights running the ball. He had 723 carries at Michigan that's comparable or more carries than most of the RBs in this draft. Conversely, he only had 3 receptions in his collegiate career. He's also played 3 games at RB compared to 0 games or snaps at WR. The 3 games at RB were his last 3 games where he played RB because of his elbow injury. In those games against Iowa, Ohio St and South Carolina he carried the ball 36 times for 320 yards (98, 122 and 100 respectively) averaging just under 9 yards a carry. At 5-10 199, he has enough size. In comparison Chris Johnson at the combine was 5-11 197 and is now playing at 191. Robinson also has the built. Though he has room to get stronger in the upper body, he has the thick thighs and calves you like to see in a running back prospect. Note it's much easier to add weight to the upper body than it is to the lower body.

Here is great article by rotoworld breaking down why Denard's best position is likely at RB and not WR:

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...nfl-projection

[legler82]

Originally Posted by legler82

I'm starting to be intrigued by the idea of drafting Robinson if he is available in the 4th or later to play RB. While he may be a project as WR, I think his best chance to contribute right away and probably long term is at running back, situational at first and more later.

There's a lot of nuance with playing WR whereas running back is very instinctual. He's proven he has those instincts. You'd be hard pressed to find a running back prospect with better highlights running the ball. He had 723 carries at Michigan that's comparable or more carries than most of the RBs in this draft. Conversely, he only had 3 receptions in his collegiate career. He's also played 3 games at RB compared to 0 games or snaps at WR. The 3 games at RB were his last 3 games where he played RB because of his elbow injury. In those games against Iowa, Ohio St and South Carolina he carried the ball 36 times for 320 yards (98, 122 and 100 respectively) averaging just under 9 yards a carry. At 5-10 199, he has enough size. In comparison Chris Johnson at the combine was 5-11 197 and is now playing at 191. Robinson also has the built. Though he has room to get stronger in the upper body, he has the thick thighs and calves you like to see in a running back prospect. Note it's much easier to add weight to the upper body than it is to the lower body.

Here is great article by rotoworld breaking down why Denard's best position is likely at RB and not WR:

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...nfl-projection

I forgot to mention the intangibles. The kid is tough, intelligent, hard worker, a leader and has the best attitude in the world.

[Untouchable]

If the Jets draft Robinson, then that signals to me that they want to run more of this goofy wildcat bullsh*t.

No thanks

[legler82]

Originally Posted by legler82

I'm starting to be intrigued by the idea of drafting Robinson if he is available in the 4th or later to play RB. While he may be a project as WR, I think his best chance to contribute right away and probably long term is at running back, situational at first and more later.

There's a lot of nuance with playing WR whereas running back is very instinctual. He's proven he has those instincts. You'd be hard pressed to find a running back prospect with better highlights running the ball. He had 723 carries at Michigan that's comparable or more carries than most of the RBs in this draft. Conversely, he only had 3 receptions in his collegiate career. He's also played 3 games at RB compared to 0 games or snaps at WR. The 3 games at RB were his last 3 games where he played RB because of his elbow injury. In those games against Iowa, Ohio St and South Carolina he carried the ball 36 times for 320 yards (98, 122 and 100 respectively) averaging just under 9 yards a carry. At 5-10 199, he has enough size. In comparison Chris Johnson at the combine was 5-11 197 and is now playing at 191. Robinson also has the built. Though he has room to get stronger in the upper body, he has the thick thighs and calves you like to see in a running back prospect. Note it's much easier to add weight to the upper body than it is to the lower body.

Here is great article by rotoworld breaking down why Denard's best position is likely at RB and not WR:

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...nfl-projection

Robinson agrees!

http://blogs.nfl.com/2013/03/14/dena...igans-pro-day/

Denard Robinson works out as RB at Michigan’s pro day

By Gil Brandt...

...Denard Robinson, WR (5-foot-10 3/8, 199 pounds) — Robinson was the only player from Michigan who participated at the NFL Scouting Combine. Robinson stood by his combine numbers (he did run an official time of 4.43 seconds in the 40-yard dash). At Michigan’s pro day, Robinson worked out primarily as a running back and return specialist. His best NFL position might be running back — even if he worked out at receiver at the combine — as he can really make things happen when the ball is in his hands.

It will be a coach’s choice in the NFL for where Robinson ultimately lines up. Whichever team Robinson winds up with will need to have a plan in mind for him.

There were three notable players at Michigan’s pro day who were not at the combine.