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32green · 02-20-2013, 02:05 PM

Out for a few weeks with a bulging disc.

What a shocker.

Way to detect this in the off season when he could have done something about it.

Its not like he hasnt been prone to back problems.

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DDNYjets · 02-20-2013, 02:40 PM

LOL.

Very good chance this is his last year with the team. I think he has never developed in to the pitcher the Yanks hoped he'd become. Had one great half-season in 2010 but outside of that he has been poor. And I think the Yanks are fed up with him, this is not the first time he has come into camp out of shape. In years past they have questioned his weight and conditioning.

Ruby2 · 02-20-2013, 02:40 PM

Unban Sean Ryan so you will have someone to talk to about this.

Apache 51 · 02-20-2013, 05:20 PM

Dump, Hughes that is.

detjetsfan · 02-20-2013, 09:52 PM

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LOL.

Very good chance this is his last year with the team. I think he has never developed in to the pitcher the Yanks hoped he'd become. Had one great half-season in 2010 but outside of that he has been poor. And I think the Yanks are fed up with him, this is not the first time he has come into camp out of shape. In years past they have questioned his weight and conditioning.

Unless Hughes tanks this season it is absolutely his last year in pinstripes. He will want a deal in the neighborhood of 3-4 years and $30-40 mil and he will get it from someone. This is baseball even JAG starting pitchers get the big contract in free agency.

Bonhomme Richard · 02-24-2013, 01:05 AM

I feel his pain with the bulging disc. Literally. Unfortunately for him that's not something that just goes away.

Dreamers · 02-24-2013, 10:26 AM

I like Hughes hope he gets well. I wouldn't be shocked if we traded him and Nova though. I think we have some good young pitchers that will enter the league this year and both could be traded for IF prospects. By the trade deadline I think we will be selling this year.

32green · 02-24-2013, 11:49 AM

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I feel his pain with the bulging disc. Literally. Unfortunately for him that's not something that just goes away.

I had one taken care of nearly 26 years ago (laminectomy L5-S1), and my back is not even an afterthought in anything I do for nearly all of those years since. I'm sure the surgery is even more precise now. This should have been addressed in the off-season, imho. This is no new thing with Phil.

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detjetsfan · 02-24-2013, 12:41 PM

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I like Hughes hope he gets well. I wouldn't be shocked if we traded him and Nova though. I think we have some good young pitchers that will enter the league this year and both could be traded for IF prospects. By the trade deadline I think we will be selling this year.

Only way that happens is if CC has a season ending injury.

Bonhomme Richard · 02-24-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 32green

I had one taken care of nearly 26 years ago (laminectomy L5-S1), and my back is not even an afterthought in anything I do for nearly all of those years since. I'm sure the surgery is even more precise now. This should have been addressed in the off-season, imho. This is no new thing with Phil.

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Yeah you're right. I think I'm going to need that surgery sooner than later. I've been putting it off.

32green · 02-25-2013, 07:26 AM

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Yeah you're right. I think I'm going to need that surgery sooner than later. I've been putting it off.

You want to avoid permanent damage to the sciatic nerve. The longer there is pressure on it, the better the chance it is permanently affected. Also, if one of your legs is affected, you get weakness and possible even atrophy (as was my case)..then you compensate and your whole body goes out of whack.

I think I was walking the same day, in and out in 2 1/2 and that was a lifetime ago.

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Ernie · 02-25-2013, 12:04 PM

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You want to avoid permanent damage to the sciatic nerve. The longer there is pressure on it, the better the chance it is permanently affected. Also, if one of your legs is affected, you get weakness and possible even atrophy (as was my case)..then you compensate and your whole body goes out of whack.

I think I was walking the same day, in and out in 2 1/2 and that was a lifetime ago.

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Usedtobeacop or usedtobeasurgeon?

chirorob · 02-25-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard

I feel his pain with the bulging disc. Literally. Unfortunately for him that's not something that just goes away.

That's cause you didn't see me about it.

Depends on how bad Hughes is, where exactly it is, how long he's had it without getting treatment, and where his weight it. Losing 30 pounds from when he got pudgy is a good place to start.

Unfortunately, pitching involves a large amount of torque and bending, which is not ideal for a bulging disc. Getting usedtobeacop to feel able to work every day is a much easier than getting it stabilized to be a professional athlete.

chirorob · 02-25-2013, 12:52 PM

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Yeah you're right. I think I'm going to need that surgery sooner than later. I've been putting it off.

Try decompression first. Some surgeries go well, and no major problems. Some don't, and you need multiple surgeries to fix the first. Plus, once you cut, it is not as strong as it was originally, and you are way to young for that.

32green · 02-25-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernie

Usedtobeacop or usedtobeasurgeon?

:Usedtohaveabadback:

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32green · 02-25-2013, 04:12 PM

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Try decompression first. Some surgeries go well, and no major problems. Some don't, and you need multiple surgeries to fix the first. Plus, once you cut, it is not as strong as it was originally, and you are way to young for that.

As a chiro, this not unexpected.

Btw, the incision I had all those years ago was very small, maybe 2 inches?

I'm sure there is alot less cutting now.

Anyway, always smart to investigate non-surgical approaches first.

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Bonhomme Richard · 02-25-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chirorob

Try decompression first. Some surgeries go well, and no major problems. Some don't, and you need multiple surgeries to fix the first. Plus, once you cut, it is not as strong as it was originally, and you are way to young for that.

Suddenly the "chiro" in chirorob makes sense.

I'm going to shoot you a PM later this evening if you don't mind. I've got a shot back for an otherwise healthy 28 year old.

chirorob · 02-25-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 32green

As a chiro, this not unexpected.

Btw, the incision I had all those years ago was very small, maybe 2 inches?

I'm sure there is alot less cutting now.

Anyway, always smart to investigate non-surgical approaches first.

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2 years ago, my wife was working out with a trainer at the gym. My wife is fit, ex-gymnast (yes, I married UP). He was a dick, had her do too much weight, and herniated L4/5 and L5/S1. We tried everything conservative, no help. 1st surgery, "non invasive" helped for about 6 months. Then came the spinal fusion, now comes the second spinal fusion.

Happens all the time with people, they have the surgery, joint area is compromised, 5 years later, more surgery. It has nothing to do with the size of the scar, all scars are smaller now. Try everything first, surgery last. Some go real well. Some go real bad. Thing is, if you try rehab, and chiropractic, and decompression, and it doesn't work, all you have lost is a little time and some cash. If you do surgery first, and it doesn't work, you are S.O.L. for the rest of your life.

chirorob · 02-25-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard

Suddenly the "chiro" in chirorob makes sense.

I'm going to shoot you a PM later this evening if you don't mind. I've got a shot back for an otherwise healthy 28 year old.

Any way I can help, let me know.

Bonhomme Richard · 02-25-2013, 10:46 PM

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Any way I can help, let me know.

Thanks man. PM sent.

02-20-2013, 02:05 PM	#1
32green The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus. Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The depths of Despair. Posts: 37,672	Phil Hughes Out for a few weeks with a bulging disc. What a shocker. Way to detect this in the off season when he could have done something about it. Its not like he hasnt been prone to back problems. -

02-20-2013, 02:40 PM	#2
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,297	LOL. Very good chance this is his last year with the team. I think he has never developed in to the pitcher the Yanks hoped he'd become. Had one great half-season in 2010 but outside of that he has been poor. And I think the Yanks are fed up with him, this is not the first time he has come into camp out of shape. In years past they have questioned his weight and conditioning.

02-20-2013, 02:40 PM	#3
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,026	Unban Sean Ryan so you will have someone to talk to about this.

02-20-2013, 05:20 PM	#4
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,642	Dump, Hughes that is.

02-24-2013, 01:05 AM	#6
Bonhomme Richard Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 4,102	I feel his pain with the bulging disc. Literally. Unfortunately for him that's not something that just goes away.

02-24-2013, 10:26 AM	#7
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,396	I like Hughes hope he gets well. I wouldn't be shocked if we traded him and Nova though. I think we have some good young pitchers that will enter the league this year and both could be traded for IF prospects. By the trade deadline I think we will be selling this year.