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Old 02-25-2013, 05:18 PM   #141
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@LeonSandcastle: Attention boys and girls... and @richeisen. THIS is what 4.2 in the 40 looks like: http://t.co/WW3bCeOQUn #RunRichRun
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:53 PM   #142
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I want to know more about Jamie Collins, who could be this year's workout warrior. I need to see him in action.
Workout warrior?...his production the last 2 years was tremendous.Not seen much of him on tape but he definitely has the numbers to back up the numbers

Something like 20 odd tfl's last year and I think nearly 10 sacks
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:05 PM   #143
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Workout warrior?...his production the last 2 years was tremendous.Not seen much of him on tape but he definitely has the numbers to back up the numbers

Something like 20 odd tfl's last year and I think nearly 10 sacks
Yes he was productive, but one of the thing I have heard about him reminds me of Coples last year (which turned out to be okay). His motor sometimes goes cold and he sometimes has a hard time in zone coverage.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:12 PM   #144
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An anonymous scout said Alabama OG Chance Warmack "scares the hell" out of him because he's "not real bright".

"They tell you he can't play more than one position and you have to be careful in games what kind of adjustments you make," the scout said. "Not a real bright kid. He kind of reminds me of (Seattle's James) Carpenter. You see stuff that's impressive, then later in the game he starts to fade. For me, a guard has to be perfect to take in the first round. Because how much difference is there in that guy and a guy you take in the fourth?"
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:27 PM   #145
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@MattBowen41: Take the workout and see if it matches the player on tape. RT @JD_Montemayor: @MattBowen41 how much stock do you put in combine?
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:43 PM   #146
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I'm starting to warm up to Ansah.

You simply can't ignore how much of a physical freak the guy is.

And then there's the report about the Steelers drooling over the guy. And the Steelers know a thing or two about passrushers.
Like Vernon Gholston.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:56 PM   #147
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@MoveTheSticks: I trust 90% of the stuff my NFL buddies tell me about players prior to the #NFLCombine. Starting Wednesday, it drops to 5%
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:58 PM   #148
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Tony's reports:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...risers/1947477


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...iders/1946803/

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Old 02-25-2013, 09:01 PM   #149
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Like Vernon Gholston.
Except by all accounts Ziggy doesn't quit and is always hungry to learn, unlike Gholston who by this time years ago all we heard was that he was reclusive and not very bright
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:05 PM   #150
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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...t-Combine.html


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ne-Monday.html
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:20 PM   #151
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Cornelius Washington might be a nice alternative to Ansah.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:07 PM   #152
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:27 PM   #153
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Interesting. Not impressed with that interview.
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:10 PM   #154
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@LeonSandcastle: Attention boys and girls... and @richeisen. THIS is what 4.2 in the 40 looks like: http://t.co/WW3bCeOQUn #RunRichRun
Deion really runs that. He is still super fast. Probably not a 4.2 but certainly sub 4.5.
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:24 PM   #155
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Someone is going to get a steal picking Teo in the 2nd or 3rd round.
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:31 PM   #156
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Someone is going to get a steal picking Teo in the 2nd or 3rd round.
Not much to steal if you play like a 3rd rounder
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:38 PM   #157
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Someone is going to get a steal picking Teo in the 2nd or 3rd round.
That's what with thought when we drafted Schlegel who timed in a similar manner and proved too slow to play in the NFL.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:57 AM   #158
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By Bucky Brooks
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Published: Feb. 25, 2013 at 08:41 p.m

INDIANAPOLIS -- The third day of workouts at the NFL Scouting Combine featured defensive linemen and linebackers. Most observers have cited the front seven as one of the strengths of the draft, and scouts were paying close attention to the standouts of the day. Here are a few guys who caught my eye in workouts:

Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame: Most of Te'o's combine work took place behind the scenes in critical interviews, but scouts still wanted to see how the Notre Dame star would stack up athletically. Since his disappointing effort against Alabama in the BCS Championship Game, evaluators have been concerned about Te'o's overall speed and lateral quickness, and those doubts certainly weren't erased by his effort on the turf. Te'o recorded a disappointing 4.82-second 40-yard dash, and he didn't post exceptional measurements in any of the athletic drills. Now, his numbers don't detract from the fact that he is a remarkable football player with outstanding instincts, and he confirmed that he has some of those traits by flowing quickly in positional drills. He also looked natural when dropping in space, and he caught the ball better than the majority of defenders in attendance. With most coaches still curious about his lateral skills and explosiveness, Te'o will need to put on a better performance at his pro day workout to retain his upper-level spot on draft boards across the league.

Ezekiel "Ziggy" Ansah, DE, BYU: Ansah certainly displayed the athleticism and explosiveness that scouts have been raving about since the middle of the college season. Measuring 6-foot-5 and 271 pounds, Ansah blazed the 40-yard dash in 4.63 seconds and posted a 34.5-inch vertical and a 9-10 broad jump. Additionally, Ansah flashed impressive movement skills and the ability to change direction while executing pass-rush moves and zone drops on the turf at Lucas Oil Stadium. Evaluators are completely smitten with Ansah's athleticism, speed and movement skills; the stock of the BYU star has soared through the roof in recent days.

Margus Hunt, DE, SMU: Hunt was expected to post impressive measurements based on his history as a world-class track athlete, but no one expected the star from Estonia to show the kind of exceptional athleticism, strength and power he brought to drills on the turf Monday. Hunt blitzed a 4.60-second 40-yard dash and posted a 34.5-inch vertical and 10-1 broad jump. Most importantly, Hunt displayed exceptional agility, quickness and burst while running through a battery of drills designed to assess his skills as an edge rusher. Hunt's overall athleticism and explosiveness are certainly uncommon for a 6-8, 280-pound interior hybrid defender with limited football experience. Given those factors, it is not surprising that Hunt's workout is evoking comparisons to J.J. Watt as an athlete.

Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon: Jordan, who is set to undergo surgery after the combine, left a lasting impression on coaches and scouts with his remarkable workout, during which he ran a 4.60-second 40-yard dash and recorded a 32.5-inch vertical and 10-2 broad jump. Additionally, Jordan showed excellent balance, body control and burst while changing directions as a pass rusher in drills. Jordan's natural bend and burst will have some evaluators thinking of him as an elite pass-rushing prospect at the next level. Most importantly, Jordan's exceptional movement skills in space will encourage teams that run a 3-4 to consider him a viable option as an outside linebacker. Versatility and explosiveness are important in hybrid players; Jordan's workout certainly earned him high marks in the eyes of evaluators across the league.

Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida: The buzz surrounding Floyd's ascension to the top of the charts will simply grow louder after the Florida star's workout on the turf. Floyd showed exceptional agility and movement skills for a 6-3, 303-pound defensive tackle. He flowed smoothly through bags on lateral movement drills, and he certainly surprised evaluators with his ability to re-direct quickly in space. Although interior defenders are expected to play within a short area, the fact that Floyd displayed the agility, balance and body control to make sudden movements in space suggests that he is a rare athlete at the position.

Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU: Mingo certainly didn't disappoint scouts with his outstanding workout, blazing the second-fastest 40 time among defensive ends (4.58) while posting exceptional marks in the vertical (37 inches) and broad (10-8) jumps. Although the numbers definitely caught the attention of evaluators, Mingo's exceptional exhibition of speed, quickness and agility during positional drills was what had scouts salivating about his immense potential. Mingo flawlessly executed a series of coverage and reaction drills that showcased his ability to play effectively in space as a potential drop-back defender. The 3-4 defense has proliferated around the NFL; Mingo's stunning display of speed, athleticism and burst has cemented his potential as a hybrid playmaker off the edge.

Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M: Moore's pedestrian workout made him one of the biggest disappointments of the combine. He mustered just 12 reps on the bench press, a dismal showing that he followed with a 4.95-second 40-yard dash. For a 6-4, 245-pound defensive end with pass-rushing prowess, those numbers were abysmal in every regard. Most importantly, they suggested that Moore was unprepared for the workout, which is a major red flag for scouts wondering if they can count on him to become an immediate difference-maker at the next level.

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Old 02-26-2013, 09:56 AM   #159
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Plenty of speed rushers for Jets: With the ninth pick in the draft, the Jets could be looking for an edge... http://es.pn/XXST9G #nyj
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:41 AM   #160
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An anonymous scout said Alabama OG Chance Warmack "scares the hell" out of him because he's "not real bright".

"They tell you he can't play more than one position and you have to be careful in games what kind of adjustments you make," the scout said. "Not a real bright kid. He kind of reminds me of (Seattle's James) Carpenter. You see stuff that's impressive, then later in the game he starts to fade. For me, a guard has to be perfect to take in the first round. Because how much difference is there in that guy and a guy you take in the fourth?"
I couldn't agree more with this quote. A guard is just not worth it unless
he's a hands down 10 time All Pro. I mean in 2009 we made the AFC
Championship game with a Hall Of Fame guard (Faneca). Then in 2010
we go back with a 6th round pick who replaced him (Slauson). Where
was the drop off? There was none, guards just don't impact an offense
to where you should spend big $$$ on them
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