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jetswin · 02-26-2013, 09:53 AM

That article is unmitigated crap.

Shocker

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NY's stepchild · 02-26-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FF2®

This is the kind of analysis you can't get anywhere other than JI.

How much do you guys pay your CBs? I know you wouldn't understand the analogy because you're only a Red Sox fan. Right over your head.

PatsFanTX · 02-26-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NY's stepchild

How much do you guys pay your CBs? I know you wouldn't understand the analogy because you're only a Red Sox fan. Right over your head.

Actually, I thought your original post was a great analogy.

It's pretty damn true.

Savage69 · 02-26-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Astoria

This, 100%.

No other pro team, perhaps in history, has to fight a battle agaonst its own media for FAIR coverage. I'm not asking for homerism. Just be objective. The Jets didn't wear fake mpustaches to AVOID revis' agents. They just didn't meet. So report: THEY DID NOT MEET.

50% of jets fans and 99% of NFL fans just go by the headlines, and they see "avoid" and it's another feather in their cap.

Everywhere i go in this country, "oh you're a jets fan? They're a joke, I'm sorry for you". With four playoff wins the last four years. WE'RE the joke? It's because of the B.S. our own media creates.

And quite a few fans go along with it as well..

Nike · 02-26-2013, 10:19 AM

Darrelle Revis' exit would spell doom for Rex Ryan

INDIANAPOLIS – As coach Rex Ryan grasps the fact that the New York Jets are apparently in the market to trade cornerback Darrelle Revis, he was likely hit with an overwhelming feeling:

He's a Dead Coach Walking.

How long will Darrelle Revis and Rex Ryan be together on the New York Jets? (USA Today Sports)As the Jets spent last weekend at the NFL scouting combine shopping Revis in passive-aggressive style (New York isn't calling anybody, but team management was all ears when multiple teams called to hold preliminary talks, according to sources), Ryan is now faced with what he must do to avoid the near-certain end of his tenure.

Does he go to owner Woody Johnson and demand that the team sign Revis to a contract extension in hopes of rebuilding his scattered defense? Or does he let the likely trade play out and hope that he can somehow turn around a team that will be led by quarterback Mark Sanchez?

Recently hired Jets general manager John Idzik declined to respond to calls from Yahoo! Sports on Monday, preferring to stand by his remarks from last Thursday. Idzik spent eight minutes at the combine that day trying to deflect questions about whether Revis would be traded. At one point, Idzik said, "With respect to Darrelle, we have always wanted him to be a part of the New York Jets."

However, Idzik has yet to call agents Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod to discuss parameters of an extension past the 2013 season, according to a source familiar with the circumstances. Revis can opt out of his contract after the upcoming season and the Jets can't franchise him at that point, making him eligible for free agency in 2014.

While that's enticing for Revis, who is coming back from a season-ending knee injury in 2012 and could become one of the league's top-paid players, it's also not necessarily what he wants. Multiple sources have said that Revis desires to finish his career with the Jets. Additionally, Revis' top sponsor, Nike, would like Revis to remain in New York, according to a source.

Revis' desire may not matter, though. Although Idzik has been in contact with Revis twice this offseason in an effort to quell any talk of a trade, word has quietly gotten around the NFL that the Jets are willing to part with him.

Sanchez threw 13 touchdowns and 18 interceptions last season. (USA Today Sports)That appears to be part of a large rebuilding process that figures to last beyond 2013, when the team can finally part with Sanchez.

Two sources indicated this weekend that there is nearly zero market for Sanchez, particularly with a contract that calls for an $8.25 million guarantee this season.

"Unless there's something I don't understand, Mark is going to be there," one source said.

If the Jets parted ways with Sanchez after the '13 season, the question becomes who will be the coach to pick the next quarterback? Ryan, whose background is primarily on defense and has gone two straight seasons without reaching the playoffs, could be out of the picture.

The question for teams wanting to acquire Revis is whether they want to do it now or wait until later. Any team getting Revis would likely want to do an extension with him as part of the trade.

Revis is expected to fetch in excess of $16 million per year. That estimate is based on the eight-year, $132 million contract extension Detroit wide receiver Calvin Johnson and the six-year, $100 million deal Buffalo defensive end Mario Williams got. Each of those deals were done in the 2012 offseason.

rajensen088 · 02-26-2013, 10:34 AM

Keep Revis and franchise him next year, then test the waters for a trade.

Savage69 · 02-26-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rajensen088

Keep Revis and franchise him next year, then test the waters for a trade.

You can't franchise a FA..

C Mart · 02-26-2013, 10:43 AM

Bingo!!!

Chris Gross ‏@CGROSS97
Mayock on Revis story from NYDN, "Idk what there is to meet about here. He's under contract. They have players to scout." (paraphrase)

Chris Nimbley ‏@Cnimbley
Mayock lowering the BOOM!

PatsFanTX · 02-26-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

You can't franchise a FA..

Yes you can, you just can't franchise a player who's tag option was negotiated out of the current contract.

C Mart · 02-26-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rajensen088

Keep Revis and franchise him next year, then test the waters for a trade.

His contract doesn't allow for him to be franchised just like Landry's doesn't this season

Savage69 · 02-26-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Yes you can, you just can't franchise a player who's tag option was negotiated out of the current contract.

Yeah that's what I meant..

My bad..

Nike · 02-26-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

Bingo!!!

Chris Gross ‏@CGROSS97
Mayock on Revis story from NYDN, "Idk what there is to meet about here. He's under contract. They have players to scout." (paraphrase)

agree the combine isnt about revis.

C Mart · 02-26-2013, 11:09 AM

His response to Mayock..

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
Team executives don't spend every minute at Combine evaluating players. There's ample opportunities to meet with agents in various settings

SMC · 02-26-2013, 11:13 AM

Manish is a ****-stirrer, but don't put it past Revis' agents from contacting Manish to complain that they didn't meet with the Jets.

We have seen from the prior negotiations that Revis' agents can come off as aholes.

HammyNYJets · 02-26-2013, 11:51 AM

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
Text from AFC executive re: Jets brass not meeting with Darrelle @Revis24's agents at Combine: "B.S. treatment for your best player." #nyj

tfine350z · 02-26-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HammyNYJets

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
Text from AFC executive re: Jets brass not meeting with Darrelle @Revis24's agents at Combine: "B.S. treatment for your best player." #nyj

Manish is making up the news. The great part is that people in the media are starting to take note of what a hack he is...

WestCoastOffensive · 02-26-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NY's stepchild

Jeter plays short stop. Revis doesn't play short stop. He plays right field. If you're going to play right field you need to hit home runs. Revis doesn't hit home runs.

Manish is a joke.

Rex runs one hell of a complicated defense.

Beerfish · 02-26-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HammyNYJets

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
Text from AFC executive re: Jets brass not meeting with Darrelle @Revis24's agents at Combine: "B.S. treatment for your best player." #nyj

I would say bs treatment of your best player to the team if he is insisting on meeting the team at the combine and before free agency when he is UNDER CONTRACT for next year.

Buzzsaw · 02-26-2013, 12:11 PM

Izdik is not obligated to meet with his agents at the combine, but he should sit down with them soon. The Jets absolutely have to at least see what it would take to extend Revis. If they decide it's too much, so be it, but at least sit down with his agents.

NYJ37/12 · 02-26-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HammyNYJets

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
Text from AFC executive re: Jets brass not meeting with Darrelle @Revis24's agents at Combine: "B.S. treatment for your best player." #nyj

Maybe that executive should put together a nice trade package for the Jets and take that "best player".

02-26-2013, 09:53 AM	#21
jetswin stumblin mumblin butt fumblin Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Westchester Co. Posts: 35,468	That article is unmitigated crap. Shocker Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2

02-26-2013, 10:19 AM	#25
Nike Fix it or sell it Woody! Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,386	Darrelle Revis' exit would spell doom for Rex Ryan INDIANAPOLIS – As coach Rex Ryan grasps the fact that the New York Jets are apparently in the market to trade cornerback Darrelle Revis, he was likely hit with an overwhelming feeling: He's a Dead Coach Walking. How long will Darrelle Revis and Rex Ryan be together on the New York Jets? (USA Today Sports)As the Jets spent last weekend at the NFL scouting combine shopping Revis in passive-aggressive style (New York isn't calling anybody, but team management was all ears when multiple teams called to hold preliminary talks, according to sources), Ryan is now faced with what he must do to avoid the near-certain end of his tenure. Does he go to owner Woody Johnson and demand that the team sign Revis to a contract extension in hopes of rebuilding his scattered defense? Or does he let the likely trade play out and hope that he can somehow turn around a team that will be led by quarterback Mark Sanchez? Recently hired Jets general manager John Idzik declined to respond to calls from Yahoo! Sports on Monday, preferring to stand by his remarks from last Thursday. Idzik spent eight minutes at the combine that day trying to deflect questions about whether Revis would be traded. At one point, Idzik said, "With respect to Darrelle, we have always wanted him to be a part of the New York Jets." However, Idzik has yet to call agents Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod to discuss parameters of an extension past the 2013 season, according to a source familiar with the circumstances. Revis can opt out of his contract after the upcoming season and the Jets can't franchise him at that point, making him eligible for free agency in 2014. While that's enticing for Revis, who is coming back from a season-ending knee injury in 2012 and could become one of the league's top-paid players, it's also not necessarily what he wants. Multiple sources have said that Revis desires to finish his career with the Jets. Additionally, Revis' top sponsor, Nike, would like Revis to remain in New York, according to a source. Revis' desire may not matter, though. Although Idzik has been in contact with Revis twice this offseason in an effort to quell any talk of a trade, word has quietly gotten around the NFL that the Jets are willing to part with him. Sanchez threw 13 touchdowns and 18 interceptions last season. (USA Today Sports)That appears to be part of a large rebuilding process that figures to last beyond 2013, when the team can finally part with Sanchez. Two sources indicated this weekend that there is nearly zero market for Sanchez, particularly with a contract that calls for an $8.25 million guarantee this season. "Unless there's something I don't understand, Mark is going to be there," one source said. If the Jets parted ways with Sanchez after the '13 season, the question becomes who will be the coach to pick the next quarterback? Ryan, whose background is primarily on defense and has gone two straight seasons without reaching the playoffs, could be out of the picture. The question for teams wanting to acquire Revis is whether they want to do it now or wait until later. Any team getting Revis would likely want to do an extension with him as part of the trade. Revis is expected to fetch in excess of $16 million per year. That estimate is based on the eight-year, $132 million contract extension Detroit wide receiver Calvin Johnson and the six-year, $100 million deal Buffalo defensive end Mario Williams got. Each of those deals were done in the 2012 offseason.

02-26-2013, 10:34 AM	#26
rajensen088 Recovering Jet fan All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,589	Keep Revis and franchise him next year, then test the waters for a trade.

02-26-2013, 10:43 AM	#28
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	Bingo!!! Chris Gross ‏@CGROSS97 Mayock on Revis story from NYDN, "Idk what there is to meet about here. He's under contract. They have players to scout." (paraphrase) Chris Nimbley ‏@Cnimbley Mayock lowering the BOOM!

02-26-2013, 11:09 AM	#33
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	His response to Mayock.. Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN Team executives don't spend every minute at Combine evaluating players. There's ample opportunities to meet with agents in various settings

02-26-2013, 11:13 AM	#34
SMC Day-to-day Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 22,032	Manish is a ****-stirrer, but don't put it past Revis' agents from contacting Manish to complain that they didn't meet with the Jets. We have seen from the prior negotiations that Revis' agents can come off as aholes.

02-26-2013, 11:51 AM	#35
HammyNYJets Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 120	Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN Text from AFC executive re: Jets brass not meeting with Darrelle @Revis24's agents at Combine: "B.S. treatment for your best player." #nyj

02-26-2013, 12:11 PM	#39
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,309	Izdik is not obligated to meet with his agents at the combine, but he should sit down with them soon. The Jets absolutely have to at least see what it would take to extend Revis. If they decide it's too much, so be it, but at least sit down with his agents.