Jay Glazer: Alex Smith to KC

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

The Chiefs now have something the Jets don't.

A legitimate NFL QB.

Your boytoy Cassell wasn't legit?

[Baddniss]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Not bad for the 49ers.

The 33rd overall pick this year and a similar pick next year.

Alex Smith could be the difference between the Jets going 6-10 next year WITH Sanchez at QB, or going 10-6 with a real throwing QB.
I make this deal for two #2's !

LETS WIN NOW, AT ALL COSTS!
Screw re-building.
Screw the future. I want us to win NOW!!!

[SBIII]

This is going to be good for KC.

[Raider9175]

Originally Posted by Beerfish

They are projected to have 3 comp picks so they will have an outrageous amount of ammo to move up or trade for players. They are already a pretty stacked team so they may pull a New england and trade for future picks. Maybe they would like to get their hands on an all world CB?

The compensation picks are off the table as you can't trade those, but the rest of the picks can be used to trade up for a player. 49er's are shorting their window if they elect to trade one pick for Revis( can't a see them giving up multiple picks and paying him)

So the question would you trade Revis just for their second round pick. That's the best they are going to offer for Revis.(one year rental as they can't absorb signing him to extension). Clearly the jets aren't getting fair value for Revis but that what happens when you give up the franchise tag.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Raider9175

The compensation picks are off the table as you can't trade those, but the rest of the picks can be used to trade up for a player. 49er's are shorting their window if they elect to trade one pick for Revis( can't a see them giving up multiple picks and paying him)

So the question would you trade Revis just for their second round pick. That's the best they are going to offer for Revis.(one year rental as they can't absorb signing him to extension). Clearly the jets aren't getting fair value for Revis but that what happens when you give up the franchise tag.

Stop with this crap already, you keep repeating yourself and you are still wrong. There is a market for Revis, you said there wouldn't be, now you're trying to suggest the Jets aren't getting fair value, when nothing has been done yet. So which is it Raider homer, is there a market for Revis or not? And how the hell do you know what is going on between the jets and teams pursuing Revis? The Jets' inability to put the franchise tag has no impact on moving Revis this off season, and will have little impact if they try to move him after this years draft and into next off-season, especially if he bounces back strong this year from injury.

[Pats1960]

Originally Posted by escamoter2

Good for us.Revis has to be worth more.

We'll probably find out.

I'm not a fan of Alex Smith, so to me the deal looks bad for KC. At first I thought it was dumb to drop Smith as the starter, but the 9ers handled the whole thing perfectly by taking him out after a good stretch.

[jetsfreak]

was Alex Smith a legitimate QB 2 years ago? my how fast people forgot that he was beng called a bust. He is going from the 49ers to a team that won 2 games last year....we shall see how good he REALLY is in 2013.

Originally Posted by detjetsfan

Your boytoy Cassell wasn't legit?

[jetsfreak]

Oh ok....I did not realize that you work for the 49ers front office and is privvy to what they are going to to...lol

GET REAL! You think the 49ers would only give up ONE pick for Revis...while also saying that they are willing to take him even if he does not want to sign an extension? You have NO clue to what the niners will be offering the Jets.

Originally Posted by Raider9175

The compensation picks are off the table as you can't trade those, but the rest of the picks can be used to trade up for a player. 49er's are shorting their window if they elect to trade one pick for Revis( can't a see them giving up multiple picks and paying him)

So the question would you trade Revis just for their second round pick. That's the best they are going to offer for Revis.(one year rental as they can't absorb signing him to extension). Clearly the jets aren't getting fair value for Revis but that what happens when you give up the franchise tag.

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by jetsfreak

was Alex Smith a legitimate QB 2 years ago? my how fast people forgot that he was beng called a bust. He is going from the 49ers to a team that won 2 games last year....we shall see how good he REALLY is in 2013.

So you are saying it's the coaching and system as opposed to the player?

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by jetsfreak

was Alex Smith a legitimate QB 2 years ago? my how fast people forgot that he was beng called a bust. He is going from the 49ers to a team that won 2 games last year....we shall see how good he REALLY is in 2013.

Smith is going to have a decent statistical season next year for KC because 1) Reid runs a qb friendly system he already knows 2) KC is probably tagging Bowe to go along with Jamaal Charles and a good OL and 3) KC will be trailing in just about every game next year so Smith will be chucking it.


I still think Alex Smith is massively overrated by the media and most posters on JI.

[49ersJetsfan]

Be happy Jets fans. It could have been you suffering through Alex Smith for the next 4-5 years lol

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by 49ersJetsfan

Be happy Jets fans. It could have been you suffering through Alex Smith for the next 4-5 years lol

Right because the past 2 years have been so bad.

[rammagen]

not to sound bad but smith is sanchez and vis a versa.
Smith was bust for how long till a system suited him. Sanchez had 2 yrs where he helped the team get to conference finals and then had 1 meeh yr and one awful yr with little to no help. You get smith here and it he may do well considering the qb friendly system is coached by our new OC or Sanchez might do ok if he was not damaged by the coaching staff the hits and lack of help.
But excuse me now because the haters are going to hate but look at the fact and they do not lie

[49ersJetsfan]

Originally Posted by C Mart

Right because the past 2 years have been so bad.

Better to be financially stuck with only one crappy QB instead of two of them. Smith is just Sanchez with a little seasoning. A crap QB who when surrounded by elite talent and coaching can give you mediocre offensive results (3 and out most of the time, helping Akers set the all-time field goal records despite the 2011 team setting the NFL record for most ever drives starting in opponent territory AND most forced turnovers ever forced by a defense, 2-27 record when the defense gives up 24 points).

Trust me, you don't want him. At least now you can potentially go out and draft a new QB.

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by 49ersJetsfan

Better to be financially stuck with only one crappy QB instead of two of them. Smith is just Sanchez with a little seasoning. A crap QB who when surrounded by elite talent and coaching can give you mediocre offensive results (3 and out most of the time, helping Akers set the all-time field goal records despite the 2011 team setting the NFL record for most ever drives starting in opponent territory AND most forced turnovers ever forced by a defense, 2-27 record when the defense gives up 24 points).

Trust me, you don't want him. At least now you can potentially go out and draft a new QB.

2-27 the past 2 seasons? There aren't 32 quality NFL QBs in the league. He's not a top 5 but he doesn't suck either (since Harbaugh).

[Dunnie]

Originally Posted by 49ersJetsfan

Better to be financially stuck with only one crappy QB instead of two of them. Smith is just Sanchez with a little seasoning. A crap QB who when surrounded by elite talent and coaching can give you mediocre offensive results (3 and out most of the time, helping Akers set the all-time field goal records despite the 2011 team setting the NFL record for most ever drives starting in opponent territory AND most forced turnovers ever forced by a defense, 2-27 record when the defense gives up 24 points).

Trust me, you don't want him. At least now you can potentially go out and draft a new QB.

I agree with this ... Although Smith is more Dilfer than Sanchez.

[49ersJetsfan]

Originally Posted by C Mart

2-27 the past 2 seasons? There aren't 32 quality NFL QBs in the league. He's not a top 5 but he doesn't suck either (since Harbaugh).

Career 2-27 record when the defense scores 24 or more points. And if he ended up here, he wouldn't have Harbaugh, nor the surrounding cast and adopted scheme that coach put together to hide his deficiencies (aka run run run, don't test deep, dink and dunk, never make more than two progressions). Hence why after Kaepernick took over, we unleashed the reigns and our offense, from our rushing to passing, became record-setting. Smith also has a badly losing record (somewhere near .100) when the team doesn't rush for at least 100 yards.

He's not a quality starting QB, quality backup yes. So were/are Dilfer, David Carr, Ken Dorsey, and Ty Detmer.

[49ersJetsfan]

Originally Posted by Dunnie

I agree with this ... Although Smith is more Dilfer than Sanchez.

Smith before Harbaugh was Sanchez - a turnover machine that couldn't make a pre-snap or in-play read to save his life, and held onto the ball too long leading to tons of sacks. Except Mark had actually accomplished something in his career.

[Demosthenes9]

Originally Posted by 49ersJetsfan

Smith before Harbaugh was Sanchez - a turnover machine that couldn't make a pre-snap or in-play read to save his life, and held onto the ball too long leading to tons of sacks. Except Mark had actually accomplished something in his career.

If you go back and look at the stats, Alex Smith's improvement came before Harbaugh took over as the HC. It can actually be dated to 2010 when the OC, Jimmy Raye got fired.

In the 5 games that Smith started following Raye's firing, he avg'ed a 95.08 QB Rating, with 8 passing TDs to 1 Int. To be sure, there was even more improvement after Harbaugh arrived, but it started before he got there.

[Cleansweep2013]

Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

If you go back and look at the stats, Alex Smith's improvement came before Harbaugh took over as the HC. It can actually be dated to 2010 when the OC, Jimmy Raye got fired.

In the 5 games that Smith started following Raye's firing, he avg'ed a 95.08 QB Rating, with 8 passing TDs to 1 Int. To be sure, there was even more improvement after Harbaugh arrived, but it started before he got there.

ah finally someone else who sees reality and isnt on their knees in front of the great Jim H. Smith was hurt just about every year until 09. He missed a lot of games and played through shoulder injury. He had 5 different OCs in his 1st 5 seasons! 49ers were bad for many years, never had a legit rciever until crabtree.. their picks finally planned through, crap records allowed them great draft picks.. Jim walked in the door at the perfect time.. He is a goo coach though, and showed balls going with kaepernick..