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WestCoastOffensive · 03-03-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

How can you say that? All Sanchez has done is look for Keller in the passing game. Keller doesn't have great hands and does not get the separation you would expect from a player with his athleticism.

Why do you encourage the meathead? He doesn't care; logic bores him.

WestCoastOffensive · 03-03-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nike

easy, sanchez doesnt utilize his tes the way they should be used. many blamed schotte it didnt improve with sparano either. sanchez doesnt throw an accurate enough pass for kellers liking friends or no friends bring in another qb and we have an elite te in keller.

You.Are.Ill.

But in a good way.

detjetsfan · 03-03-2013, 11:51 PM

1 yr $2-3 mil deal otherwise goodbye.

detjetsfan · 03-03-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gangrene

Who would you rather instead of Keller ? An All-Pro

Not quite. I'd prefer a cheaper TE who can actually block like Fasano. Not having a blocking TE who could seal the edge on running plays and help pick up the blitz in pass protect killed our offense last season among other problems and exacerbated Sanchez's TO's.

Mainejet · 03-04-2013, 06:56 AM

I would love to see Keller come back but we can't sit here and pretend that we can unless he's willing to take less to stay with the Jets. He's a good player that can surely get more from another team and if he happened to take less it would tell a lot of the overpaid greedy jerks on the team a little about having a conscience.

124 · 03-04-2013, 09:14 AM

No thank you.

Whether it's Mark Sanchez, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Akili Smith or Joe Montana, you need to be able to catch the football consistently, especially if you can't block a five year-old, and Keller hasn't. His hands are the main reason he has not become a top tier receiving TE, because other than them he has the skill set to be one.

He's not worth $5 million per.

Cya, Dustin.

Spectre · 03-04-2013, 11:20 AM

Keller is an average TE. Nothing special. Jets can't afford to throw big money to a JAG. As was stated above, if he wants to make a big splash,if he even can, he's going to have to look elsewhere.

Short money is all he'll get with the NYJ.

Apache 51 · 03-04-2013, 11:23 AM

Marty can get the LJ Smith out of him.

mrcoops · 03-04-2013, 11:24 AM

Looks like Keller is beginning to panic a little about his prospects for a big payday in FA.

Reading between the lines, he's not getting the kind of (unofficial) interest he was anticipating.

Not so long ago he was saying he didn't want a franchise tag and the $6M one year salary that comes with it. I think he would gladly take it now.

My guess, if he hits FA, he averages no more than $3M - $4M a year on a multi-year deal.

detjetsfan · 03-04-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcoops

Looks like Keller is beginning to panic a little about his prospects for a big payday in FA.

Reading between the lines, he's not getting the kind of (unofficial) interest he was anticipating.

Not so long ago he was saying he didn't want a franchise tag and the $6M one year salary that comes with it. I think he would gladly take it now.

My guess, if he hits FA, he averages no more than $3M - $4M a year on a multi-year deal.

You people way overrate Keller. He isn't getting shart in Free Agency after the abortion of a season he just had. 1 yr deal

C Mart · 03-04-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by detjetsfan

You people way overrate Keller. He isn't getting shart in Free Agency after the abortion of a season he just had. 1 yr deal

I wonder if Belichick agrees with you.

detjetsfan · 03-04-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

I wonder if Belichick agrees with you.

He already has Hernandez and glass arm Gronklozki. Pats need to resign Welker and get a downfield receiver who can make plays in the go route.

Paradis · 03-04-2013, 10:35 PM

I love how this franchise continues to alienate it's supposed blue chip players. The guys we invested high picks in.

Awesome.

C Mart · 03-04-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by detjetsfan

He already has Hernandez and glass arm Gronklozki. Pats need to resign Welker and get a downfield receiver who can make plays in the go route.

Considering Gronks injury history more reason for Keller. BB can never have enough TEs. WCO teams in need of a TE will have interest in Keller.

detjetsfan · 03-04-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Paradis

I love how this franchise continues to alienate it's supposed blue chip players. The guys we invested high picks in.

Awesome.

Keller is blue chip? When did that happen? He's a tight end who can't block and just spent an entire season on the injury report. He's not as fast or as dynamic as the elite receiving tight ends like Graham or Hernandez and he's a total liability in run blocking and pass protection. Give me a more complete tight end like Fasano. We can even take the kid Eifert from ND with one of the picks we get for Revis to be our new receiving TE he's got better size than Keller.

Get rid of Cumby too he is an even crappier version of Keller.

Paradis · 03-05-2013, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by detjetsfan

Keller is blue chip? When did that happen?

It happened when you read my post more closely.

mrcoops · 03-05-2013, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by detjetsfan

You people way overrate Keller. He isn't getting shart in Free Agency after the abortion of a season he just had. 1 yr deal

You people? Who are these "you" people to which you refer?

Scots? Captain Caveman fans?? White, hetero omnivores???

I don't think projecting a salary in the $3M range (roughly half the franchise tag amount) for Keller is over-rating him at all. It's the economic reality of NFL free agency.

In the new economics of the NFL, you get low pay your first 3 years on your rookie deal, then you get bigger pay in Free Agency.

A lot of players with less of a career history than Keller have been paid a lot more in FA. Decent slot receivers pull down $5M - $6M in FA. Good CBs are getting $9M-$10M in FA. I don't think it's a stretch to project a proven, mid-level, NFL starting TE to get $3M a year.

And, personally, I don't even rate Keller all that highly. Maybe he squeaks in the top half (i.e top 16) of NFL starting TEs, but that's about it. But, in an environment where even players like Jeff Cumberland are being considered with $2M price tags, Keller will get somewhere between $3M and $4M IMO.

It won't be the 6 year, $30M with $15m guaranteed type deal he probably thought he was going to get - more like 3 years, $10M or 4 years, $14M with around $5M guaranteed.

124 · 03-05-2013, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

Considering Gronks injury history more reason for Keller. BB can never have enough TEs. WCO teams in need of a TE will have interest in Keller.

Don't forget about the fact that Jake Ballard will be coming back. I doubt they'll need Keller to fill that fourth string TE role, because that's what he'd be up there. I think Miami, with Fasano a FA and them becoming a more passing team, would be a good fit for him.

SizzleBear287 · 03-08-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

Out w the old, in w the new. He is not in the plans.

This.

03-03-2013, 11:51 PM	#43
detjetsfan Supports Coach Ryan All League Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,009	1 yr $2-3 mil deal otherwise goodbye.

03-04-2013, 06:56 AM	#45
Mainejet impatiently waiting for the Jets to win the SB Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11,894	I would love to see Keller come back but we can't sit here and pretend that we can unless he's willing to take less to stay with the Jets. He's a good player that can surely get more from another team and if he happened to take less it would tell a lot of the overpaid greedy jerks on the team a little about having a conscience.

03-04-2013, 09:14 AM	#46
124 There's NO reason to delay the process. Start Geno Smith. All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,970	No thank you. Whether it's Mark Sanchez, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Akili Smith or Joe Montana, you need to be able to catch the football consistently, especially if you can't block a five year-old, and Keller hasn't. His hands are the main reason he has not become a top tier receiving TE, because other than them he has the skill set to be one. He's not worth $5 million per. Cya, Dustin.

03-04-2013, 11:20 AM	#47
Spectre N40 48.79182 W74 4.48859 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 572	Keller is an average TE. Nothing special. Jets can't afford to throw big money to a JAG. As was stated above, if he wants to make a big splash,if he even can, he's going to have to look elsewhere. Short money is all he'll get with the NYJ.

03-04-2013, 11:23 AM	#48
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,655	Marty can get the LJ Smith out of him.

03-04-2013, 11:24 AM	#49
mrcoops sleepy All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 5,492	Looks like Keller is beginning to panic a little about his prospects for a big payday in FA. Reading between the lines, he's not getting the kind of (unofficial) interest he was anticipating. Not so long ago he was saying he didn't want a franchise tag and the $6M one year salary that comes with it. I think he would gladly take it now. My guess, if he hits FA, he averages no more than $3M - $4M a year on a multi-year deal.

03-04-2013, 10:35 PM	#53
Paradis Is waiting for Ryan Mallet All Pro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the 80s Posts: 7,108	I love how this franchise continues to alienate it's supposed blue chip players. The guys we invested high picks in. Awesome.