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BRONX JET · 02-07-2013, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Was Welker worth a 2nd and 7th?

Was Holmes worth a 4th?

See the difference?

NO, I dont

They gave up those picks this year for Hanyesworth and OchStinko, Dingbat

Yankeejet22 · 03-14-2013, 09:08 AM

BUMP

Let's re-visit the first quote by Eric Allen of nyjets.com:

EA: Idzik has said the draft will be a “lifeline” for the Jets and the team will be “judicious” in free agency.

When I started in the NFL in 2000 as a Buccaneers PR staffer, Idzik was Tampa Bay’s Director of Football Administration. I spoke to a former colleague the other night who said, “John is smart, grounded and will put a good plan in place. New York is a tough market. Fans will have to be patient… He will build through the draft.”

The Buccaneers gathered six first-round picks between 1995-’97 and their defense was forever changed in April ’95 with the landing of Hall of Fame DT Warren Sapp (D1, No. 12) and future Hall of Fame LB Derrick Brooks (D1, No. 28). Explosive RB Warrick Dunn (D1, No. 12) went early to the Bucs in ’97, but they had a bunch of great mid-round finds as well. Probable future Hall of Fame CB Ronde Barber (D3, No. 66) came off the board in 1997 and Super Bowl XXXVII MVP Dexter Jackson (D4, No. 113) was a Bucs pick in ’99. In ’96, the Bucs got a backfield bruiser in RB Mike Alstott (D2, No. 35) and then an excellent Cover-2 corner in Donnie Abraham (D3, No. 71). The Bucs’ 41 Pro Bowl selections between 1997 through 2002 were the most in the NFL.

Most recently, Idzik was part of a Seahawks personnel department that hit more often than not on draft weekend. The ‘Hawks 2012 Draft appears ridiculous right now when you consider DE Bruce Irvin (D1, No. 15), Bobby Wagner (D2, No. 47), Russell Wilson (D3, No. 75) and RB Robert Turbin (D4, No. 106). Wilson alone would be plenty, but Irvin racked up eight sacks and Wagner received strong consideration for Defensive Rookie of the Year honors.

In 2011, the ‘Hawks got great value in the fourth and fifth rounds respectively with LB K.J. Wright and CB Richard Sherman. Back in 2010, the Seahawks had a pair of No. 1s and they came away with Pro Bowlers in LT Russell Okung (D1, No. 6) and FS Earl Thomas (D1, No. 14). Safety Kam Chancellor (D5, No. 133) was a find late while WR Golden Tate (D2, No. 60) scored 7 TDs last season. Defensive tackle Red Bryant (D4, No. 121) is one of the ‘Hawks leaders and a force up front.

Exploring every avenue to improve, the Seahawks got a Pro Bowl RB in Marshawn Lynch from the Buffalo Bills for a fourth-round pick in 2011 and a fifth-round pick in 2012. Seattle pulled off a steal when the acquired DE Chris Clemons and a fourth-round pick from the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for Darryl Tapp. In three seasons up in the Pacific Northwest, Clemons has racked up 33.5 sacks. If Clemons didn’t suffer a torn ACL and meniscus in his left knee in the wild card round, who knows how far the Seahawks could have advanced?

Idzik won’t look for a quick fix. The Jets will value their draft picks and it would not surprise me to see them stockpile a few here in the future.

It's very early in the game, but so far, EA is spot on. I'm personally loving Idzy.

sec.101row23 · 03-14-2013, 09:31 AM

Idzik thus far is doing what NEEDS to be done. This roster needed a total overhaul, and it will not occur in one draft or free agency season. He clearly wants to get younger and is going to use the draft to build this team, something that a lot of us have been wanting to see from this organization for a while. It will be painful in the short term, this team is not going to be good next year. Hopefully the draft yields a few quality starters this year, and with the cap room and draft picks next year, the Jets can get back respectability.

augustiniak · 03-14-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sec.101row23

Idzik thus far is doing what NEEDS to be done. This roster needed a total overhaul, and it will not occur in one draft or free agency season. He clearly wants to get younger and is going to use the draft to build this team, something that a lot of us have been wanting to see from this organization for a while. It will be painful in the short term, this team is not going to be good next year. Hopefully the draft yields a few quality starters this year, and with the cap room and draft picks next year, the Jets can get back respectability.

yes.

03-14-2013, 09:08 AM	#62
Yankeejet22 You didn't show them, Mark :( Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: northern jersey Posts: 2,463	BUMP Let's re-visit the first quote by Eric Allen of nyjets.com: EA: Idzik has said the draft will be a “lifeline” for the Jets and the team will be “judicious” in free agency. When I started in the NFL in 2000 as a Buccaneers PR staffer, Idzik was Tampa Bay’s Director of Football Administration. I spoke to a former colleague the other night who said, “John is smart, grounded and will put a good plan in place. New York is a tough market. Fans will have to be patient… He will build through the draft.” The Buccaneers gathered six first-round picks between 1995-’97 and their defense was forever changed in April ’95 with the landing of Hall of Fame DT Warren Sapp (D1, No. 12) and future Hall of Fame LB Derrick Brooks (D1, No. 28). Explosive RB Warrick Dunn (D1, No. 12) went early to the Bucs in ’97, but they had a bunch of great mid-round finds as well. Probable future Hall of Fame CB Ronde Barber (D3, No. 66) came off the board in 1997 and Super Bowl XXXVII MVP Dexter Jackson (D4, No. 113) was a Bucs pick in ’99. In ’96, the Bucs got a backfield bruiser in RB Mike Alstott (D2, No. 35) and then an excellent Cover-2 corner in Donnie Abraham (D3, No. 71). The Bucs’ 41 Pro Bowl selections between 1997 through 2002 were the most in the NFL. Most recently, Idzik was part of a Seahawks personnel department that hit more often than not on draft weekend. The ‘Hawks 2012 Draft appears ridiculous right now when you consider DE Bruce Irvin (D1, No. 15), Bobby Wagner (D2, No. 47), Russell Wilson (D3, No. 75) and RB Robert Turbin (D4, No. 106). Wilson alone would be plenty, but Irvin racked up eight sacks and Wagner received strong consideration for Defensive Rookie of the Year honors. In 2011, the ‘Hawks got great value in the fourth and fifth rounds respectively with LB K.J. Wright and CB Richard Sherman. Back in 2010, the Seahawks had a pair of No. 1s and they came away with Pro Bowlers in LT Russell Okung (D1, No. 6) and FS Earl Thomas (D1, No. 14). Safety Kam Chancellor (D5, No. 133) was a find late while WR Golden Tate (D2, No. 60) scored 7 TDs last season. Defensive tackle Red Bryant (D4, No. 121) is one of the ‘Hawks leaders and a force up front. Exploring every avenue to improve, the Seahawks got a Pro Bowl RB in Marshawn Lynch from the Buffalo Bills for a fourth-round pick in 2011 and a fifth-round pick in 2012. Seattle pulled off a steal when the acquired DE Chris Clemons and a fourth-round pick from the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for Darryl Tapp. In three seasons up in the Pacific Northwest, Clemons has racked up 33.5 sacks. If Clemons didn’t suffer a torn ACL and meniscus in his left knee in the wild card round, who knows how far the Seahawks could have advanced? Idzik won’t look for a quick fix. The Jets will value their draft picks and it would not surprise me to see them stockpile a few here in the future. It's very early in the game, but so far, EA is spot on. I'm personally loving Idzy.

03-14-2013, 09:31 AM	#63
sec.101row23 All Pro Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mendham, NJ Posts: 7,847	Idzik thus far is doing what NEEDS to be done. This roster needed a total overhaul, and it will not occur in one draft or free agency season. He clearly wants to get younger and is going to use the draft to build this team, something that a lot of us have been wanting to see from this organization for a while. It will be painful in the short term, this team is not going to be good next year. Hopefully the draft yields a few quality starters this year, and with the cap room and draft picks next year, the Jets can get back respectability.