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JetsFanatic · 03-20-2013, 05:07 AM

Jets in no rush to make a deal

March, 19, 2013
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By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com
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A week ago, Darrelle Revis was supposedly a goner. Now there are reports that the Bucs' interest in him is cooling. So which is it?

The word I'm getting from the NFL meetings in Phoenix is that Jets GM John Idzik is in no rush to make a trade and that he's willing to let it play out until after the draft. Why wait?

The Jets are on a long-term rebuilding plan, and Idzik apparently isn't married to the idea of having immediate draft-pick compensation -- if he decides to move his best player, which is what many expect to happen. He's telling people he'd be content to wait for 2014 compensation, when he could use an extra No. 1 pick (and maybe other picks) to maneuver for a quarterback.

Of course, if the Bucs make him an offer he can't refuse, Idzik would pull the trigger now. The sense, though, is that he'll let it play out, waiting for Revis' surgically repaired knee to heal and perhaps hoping another team enters the fray to create a bidding war.

The risk is that the Bucs will bow out and no other serious suitors will step up. Broncos exec John Elway said Tuesday he has no interest in trading for Revis, and the 49ers reportedly feel the same way -- two teams linked to a potential trade.

Right now, it's all about the Bucs. Now, this twist: There are rumblings the Bucs are frustrated by the slow-moving Jets and losing interest, and that they're prepared to shift their focus to free-agent CB Brent Grimes.

Brent Grimes? Does anybody really believe the Bucs expect Grimes to save their league-worst pass defense? He's not even close to a healthy Revis. The way the cornerback market has plunged, the Bucs could sign Grimes and trade for Revis. The Grimes stuff is just a well-placed leak in an attempt to rattle the Jets.

League sources believe the Revis camp wants to get this done ASAP. Revis knows the Bucs are willing to pay what he wants on a new contract (or in the neighborhood) and he sees them as a team with potential. He'd also be only a few hours from his home in South Florida. But, really, it's about the money. If the Bucs pull out, will anybody else step up to satisfy Revis?

That's the fear for Revis. And, to a lesser extent, the Jets, too.

GOOD FOR IDZIK!! WHY DOES CIMINI FEEL WE HAVE TO WORRY AND REACT TO THE BUCS? THE JETS SHOULD MOVE AT THEIR OWN PACE, WHAT IS THE RUSH? REVIS IS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM, WE SHOULD NOT RUSH TO TAKE ANY DEAL OFFERED! KUDOS TO IDZIK!

jxc · 03-20-2013, 06:04 AM

Get a 1st in 2014. Feel other holes this year. Let the dust settle on the QB situation in 2013. Maybe there's a diamond in the rough on the roster already.

intelligentjetsfan · 03-20-2013, 06:05 AM

Love what he is doing!

mavericknyc1980 · 03-20-2013, 06:35 AM

Idzik has really took command of this situation and settled everything down immediately.

Jet Blast · 03-20-2013, 06:55 AM

So far, so good. I like what I have heard.

BIGKIDD325 · 03-20-2013, 07:22 AM

Reminds me of the way Sandy Alderson has handled similar situations with the Mets. Didn't rush on Carlos Beltran, found the right deal and got Zack Wheeler, one of the best pitching prospects in baseball who's going to debut this year. Didn't panic with RA Dickey, and got the best catching prospect in baseball Travid d'Arnaud and another great young pitching prospect. He took his time and waited for the right deal. Looks like Idzik is attempting to do the same.

crossfire · 03-20-2013, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jxc

Get a 1st in 2014. Feel other holes this year. Let the dust settle on the QB situation in 2013. Maybe there's a diamond in the rough on the roster already.

DDNYjets · 03-20-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGKIDD325

Reminds me of the way Sandy Alderson has handled similar situations with the Mets. Didn't rush on Carlos Beltran, found the right deal and got Zack Wheeler, one of the best pitching prospects in baseball who's going to debut this year. Didn't panic with RA Dickey, and got the best catching prospect in baseball Travid d'Arnaud and another great young pitching prospect. He took his time and waited for the right deal. Looks like Idzik is attempting to do the same.

I get your point and there are some similiarities. But Idzik IS NOT getting 3 years carte blanche. 2013 is his honeymoon. That is all you get in the NFL.

DDNYjets · 03-20-2013, 07:38 AM

Rumor is that they offered the 2014 1st rounder. I would have taken that depending on what else was in the deal. But I like how he is representing the Jet right now so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Ultimately, his success or failure will be determined by whether or not he finds us a QB and how well he drafts. It is plain and simple.

fltflo · 03-20-2013, 08:09 AM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4841629]Rumor is that they offered the 2014 1st rounder. I would have taken that depending on what else was in the deal.

If the Buc's were willing to throw in this years second rounder along with next years one, that should make it a slam dunk.

Maury77 · 03-20-2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGKIDD325

Reminds me of the way Sandy Alderson has handled similar situations with the Mets. Didn't rush on Carlos Beltran, found the right deal and got Zack Wheeler, one of the best pitching prospects in baseball who's going to debut this year. Didn't panic with RA Dickey, and got the best catching prospect in baseball Travid d'Arnaud and another great young pitching prospect. He took his time and waited for the right deal. Looks like Idzik is attempting to do the same.

As a Yankees fan I am not used to this approach, but if it is in the team's best interests long term, than I am all for it.

quantum · 03-20-2013, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by crossfire

its true - when in doubt, feel other holes. Not the usual ones.

ASH_1962 · 03-20-2013, 08:52 AM

Buc the Fuccs

Shark99 · 03-20-2013, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGKIDD325

Reminds me of the way Sandy Alderson has handled similar situations with the Mets. Didn't rush on Carlos Beltran, found the right deal and got Zack Wheeler, one of the best pitching prospects in baseball who's going to debut this year. Didn't panic with RA Dickey, and got the best catching prospect in baseball Travid d'Arnaud and another great young pitching prospect. He took his time and waited for the right deal. Looks like Idzik is attempting to do the same.

It's scary to think we are being compared to the Mets, but Alderson did do well to replenish the youth. Thankfully we have a salary cap and don't have Freddy coupon as an owner!!!

augustiniak · 03-20-2013, 09:18 AM

[QUOTE=fltflo;4841639]

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Rumor is that they offered the 2014 1st rounder. I would have taken that depending on what else was in the deal.

If the Buc's were willing to throw in this years second rounder along with next years one, that should make it a slam dunk.

or even a 3rd or 4th/6th. the point is aggregate compensation.

Dcat · 03-20-2013, 09:19 AM

As much as Cimini and the beat reporters and hacks like Mehta try, Idzik will not be phased by what these collective morons write, and will not let this turn into another circus. Now if only Rex would get with the program!

Savage69 · 03-20-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dcat

As much as Cimini and the beat reporters and hacks like Mehta try, Idzik will not be phased by what these collective morons write, and will not let this turn into another circus. Now if only Rex would get with the program!

That would be much easier then getting the fans on board..

EM31 · 03-20-2013, 10:15 AM

Interesting takeaway for me is that maybe Tampa Bay are alone amongst the 32 NFL teams in that they seem willing to meet Revis' price.

Need at least two teams for a bidding war no matter how much we think Idzik is in control of all this.

augustiniak · 03-20-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by EM31

Interesting takeaway for me is that maybe Tampa Bay are alone amongst the 32 NFL teams in that they seem willing to meet Revis' price.

Need at least two teams for a bidding war no matter how much we think Idzik is in control of all this.

i think there are more teams. i still think SF is a major player. they just lost goldson (sp), and they got torched by flacco in the supe. and they have too many picks to use. but the moment multiple teams officially enter the revis sweepstakes, the price goes up. so i think teams are waiting around, testing idzik to see if he makes a panic move.

Beerfish · 03-20-2013, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EM31

Interesting takeaway for me is that maybe Tampa Bay are alone amongst the 32 NFL teams in that they seem willing to meet Revis' price.

Need at least two teams for a bidding war no matter how much we think Idzik is in control of all this.

I would be surprised if anyone really knows Revis's price. And that price is dropping as time goes on.

03-20-2013, 05:07 AM	#1
JetsFanatic When you listen to the fans, you sit with the fans! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,979	Idzik Shows Jets are in Charge Jets in no rush to make a deal March, 19, 2013 Mar 19 9:25 PM ET By Rich Cimini \| ESPNNewYork.com Recommend3 Tweet5 Comments146 Email Print A week ago, Darrelle Revis was supposedly a goner. Now there are reports that the Bucs' interest in him is cooling. So which is it? The word I'm getting from the NFL meetings in Phoenix is that Jets GM John Idzik is in no rush to make a trade and that he's willing to let it play out until after the draft. Why wait? The Jets are on a long-term rebuilding plan, and Idzik apparently isn't married to the idea of having immediate draft-pick compensation -- if he decides to move his best player, which is what many expect to happen. He's telling people he'd be content to wait for 2014 compensation, when he could use an extra No. 1 pick (and maybe other picks) to maneuver for a quarterback. Of course, if the Bucs make him an offer he can't refuse, Idzik would pull the trigger now. The sense, though, is that he'll let it play out, waiting for Revis' surgically repaired knee to heal and perhaps hoping another team enters the fray to create a bidding war. The risk is that the Bucs will bow out and no other serious suitors will step up. Broncos exec John Elway said Tuesday he has no interest in trading for Revis, and the 49ers reportedly feel the same way -- two teams linked to a potential trade. Right now, it's all about the Bucs. Now, this twist: There are rumblings the Bucs are frustrated by the slow-moving Jets and losing interest, and that they're prepared to shift their focus to free-agent CB Brent Grimes. Brent Grimes? Does anybody really believe the Bucs expect Grimes to save their league-worst pass defense? He's not even close to a healthy Revis. The way the cornerback market has plunged, the Bucs could sign Grimes and trade for Revis. The Grimes stuff is just a well-placed leak in an attempt to rattle the Jets. League sources believe the Revis camp wants to get this done ASAP. Revis knows the Bucs are willing to pay what he wants on a new contract (or in the neighborhood) and he sees them as a team with potential. He'd also be only a few hours from his home in South Florida. But, really, it's about the money. If the Bucs pull out, will anybody else step up to satisfy Revis? That's the fear for Revis. And, to a lesser extent, the Jets, too. GOOD FOR IDZIK!! WHY DOES CIMINI FEEL WE HAVE TO WORRY AND REACT TO THE BUCS? THE JETS SHOULD MOVE AT THEIR OWN PACE, WHAT IS THE RUSH? REVIS IS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM, WE SHOULD NOT RUSH TO TAKE ANY DEAL OFFERED! KUDOS TO IDZIK! Last edited by JetsFanatic; 03-20-2013 at 05:14 AM.

03-20-2013, 06:04 AM	#2
jxc Looking forward to less butt fumbles in 2013. All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,000	Get a 1st in 2014. Feel other holes this year. Let the dust settle on the QB situation in 2013. Maybe there's a diamond in the rough on the roster already.

03-20-2013, 06:05 AM	#3
intelligentjetsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,320	Love what he is doing!

03-20-2013, 06:35 AM	#4
mavericknyc1980 For NFL Draft Talk see my blog, building4thefuture.blogspot.com Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,111	Idzik has really took command of this situation and settled everything down immediately.

03-20-2013, 06:55 AM	#5
Jet Blast is full of status All League Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Forked River, NJ Posts: 4,503	So far, so good. I like what I have heard.

03-20-2013, 07:22 AM	#6
BIGKIDD325 #helloplayoffs All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,618	Reminds me of the way Sandy Alderson has handled similar situations with the Mets. Didn't rush on Carlos Beltran, found the right deal and got Zack Wheeler, one of the best pitching prospects in baseball who's going to debut this year. Didn't panic with RA Dickey, and got the best catching prospect in baseball Travid d'Arnaud and another great young pitching prospect. He took his time and waited for the right deal. Looks like Idzik is attempting to do the same.

03-20-2013, 07:38 AM	#9
DDNYjets Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,578	Rumor is that they offered the 2014 1st rounder. I would have taken that depending on what else was in the deal. But I like how he is representing the Jet right now so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Ultimately, his success or failure will be determined by whether or not he finds us a QB and how well he drafts. It is plain and simple.

03-20-2013, 08:09 AM	#10
fltflo Practice Squad Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 377	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4841629]Rumor is that they offered the 2014 1st rounder. I would have taken that depending on what else was in the deal. If the Buc's were willing to throw in this years second rounder along with next years one, that should make it a slam dunk.

03-20-2013, 08:52 AM	#13
ASH_1962 Curtis Martin Class of 2012 All League Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,513	Buc the Fuccs

03-20-2013, 09:19 AM	#16
Dcat Out here we is stoned immaculate Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 8,184	As much as Cimini and the beat reporters and hacks like Mehta try, Idzik will not be phased by what these collective morons write, and will not let this turn into another circus. Now if only Rex would get with the program!

03-20-2013, 10:15 AM	#18
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,311	Interesting takeaway for me is that maybe Tampa Bay are alone amongst the 32 NFL teams in that they seem willing to meet Revis' price. Need at least two teams for a bidding war no matter how much we think Idzik is in control of all this.