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Nike · 03-21-2013, 09:29 PM

Yesterday, quarterback Eli Manning said he'd be willing to listen if the Giants approached him about reworking his contract to get Victor Cruz in the fold.

And today, right tackle David Diehl said to count him in.

"I would be willing to do some things to restructure and help other guys out and keep a great teammate ... like Victor Cruz," Diehl said tonight on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access." "I have restructured before in my 10 seasons of being a New York Giant. It is not something I am unfamiliar with. That’s part of the business in the NFL.”

In Diehl's case, he would likely have to take a pay cut. The 10-year veteran offensive lineman only has one year left on his contract -- with a base salary of $4.475 million and a cap figure of $6.903 million -- so the cap dollars can't be pushed into future years.

The Giants have managed to make a series of low-cost free agency moves that fir under the cap, but will need more space down the line, potentially to sign rookies in the summer. Will Diehl end up redoing his contract?

“Nothing’s happening as of yet," Diehl said. "I have been there the last seven weeks after having my knee scoped and having some surgery. I have been going there, in and out each and every day. We will see what happens, what happens [and] plays out here with Victor Cruz and everything like that.”

Cruz, who set the Giants' single-season receiving record in 2011, is a restricted free agent. Negotiations with the Giants toward a long-term deal have so far not been fruitful.

“You are talking a critical piece of to our offense," Diehl said. "It is important to get a guy like Victor Cruz back to go inside with Hakeem Nicks coming off injury.”

Diehl added, "He doesn’t want to go anywhere, he wants to stay a New York Giant, just like we want him to. Obviously now this is now structuring the money, getting him a deal that he thinks is fair, that he wants to sign. Like I said, knowing from my coaches that I play for on the Giants, or teammates, we definitely want Victor Cruz in our locker room. He is going to help us win football games and get us back to the Super Bowl.”

AFCEastFan · 03-21-2013, 09:36 PM

Plenty players on lousy teams have restructured their contracts in order to help acquire/retain players as well.

jeT.MAC · 03-21-2013, 09:47 PM

Ask Namath aka JDub why jets haven't W SB's since SB3.

DDNYjets · 03-21-2013, 09:49 PM

Already a thread.

Ray Ray19 · 03-21-2013, 09:53 PM

This is why Nike aka GMCJets should not be allowed to create threads.

Yankeejet22 · 03-21-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

This is why Nike aka GMCJets should not be allowed to create threads.

Nike inc makes great sneakers, this Nike sucks.

Gastineau99 · 03-21-2013, 10:39 PM

Plenty of Jets player have restructured over the past couple years, including Suckchez.

Brady just restructured to keep Welker, while Kraft and Belly low-balled him and they ended up paying Amendola a king's ransom.

This isn't why the Giants win super bowls, they win super bowls because they are the luckiest organization in sports: Norwood wide left, Packers missed FGs, Favre ****ting the bed, Eli being sacked but player heard whistle and let him go, Tyree catch, Lee Evans dropped TD vs Pats, Welker drop/Brady overthrow, Manningham catch. Giants hours have 1 SB victory and that's 1986. Also, if the Jets played in the NFC East over the past 15 years, they would probably have had a shot at some Super Bowls. Going up against the Pats every year has been rough. NFC East would have been a lot easier road: 1998, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2009, 2010,

greenwichjetfan · 03-21-2013, 10:57 PM

Yep, it's also why the Jets win superbowls

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The Jets' practice facility in Florham Park had been open to players for less than five hours Tuesday when Mark Sanchez threw the first bomb of the 2011 season.

Carrying a 2011 $14.75 million base salary as he enters the third season on his five-year, $50 million contract, Sanchez said he is willing to restructure his deal to help the Jets sign free agents and remain under the salary cap.

"My agent's already talked to me about that," Sanchez said. "Whatever we need to do to win, it's on. ... I'll tell the guys upstairs this, too, they know that: Whatever it takes to win. If it's throwing the ball lefthanded, and that's gonna make us win, fine. I'll do it. It doesn't matter. We need to win."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...ticle-1.159374

Must also be why teams like the Ravens and Peyton's Colts never win super bowls...cuz their QBs are too busy taking max deals and not restructuring!

SgtAshton · 03-21-2013, 11:04 PM

And I thought it was making those critical plays at the right time.

Ray Ray19 · 03-21-2013, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan

Yep, it's also why the Jets win superbowls
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...ticle-1.159374

Must also be why teams like the Ravens and Peyton's Colts never win super bowls...cuz their QBs are too busy taking max deals and not restructuring!

FijiJet · 03-21-2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

Plenty players on lousy teams have restructured their contracts in order to help acquire/retain players as well.

LOL

Mogglez · 03-21-2013, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan

Yep, it's also why the Jets win superbowls
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...ticle-1.159374

Must also be why teams like the Ravens and Peyton's Colts never win super bowls...cuz their QBs are too busy taking max deals and not restructuring!

Cuh-Lassic. Lmao, isn't starting sh*tty threads like this one that spam the board the reason you got banned on your GMC account Nike?

Dreamers · 03-21-2013, 11:48 PM

They also resigned Carr keeping a good BU. They know good depth wins. The thing people dont get is they can loose Cruz and still be well off. Jernigan and Randle where both high round picks and I could very well see them dipping into the well again this year given the WR depth. After OLB and maybe DB it is not like they have a lot of holes.

ASG0531 · 03-22-2013, 12:32 AM

more accurately spoken, this is why teams who draft well, develop talent well, coach them well, and play free agency well put their teams in position to win the league championship. good teams do that. everything after is a crapshoot if the best team has 60/40 odds in the reg season, and the playoffs are 52/48.

Untouchable · 03-22-2013, 12:50 AM

Am I the only one that finds TX way more tolerable than GMC or SAR?

BrianNY · 03-22-2013, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

Am I the only one that finds TX way more tolerable than GMC or SAR?

+1

jetstream23 · 03-22-2013, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan

Yep, it's also why the Jets win superbowls
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...ticle-1.159374

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The Jets' practice facility in Florham Park had been open to players for less than five hours Tuesday when Mark Sanchez threw the first bomb of the 2011 season.

Carrying a 2011 $14.75 million base salary as he enters the third season on his five-year, $50 million contract, Sanchez said he is willing to restructure his deal to help the Jets sign free agents and remain under the salary cap.

"My agent's already talked to me about that," Sanchez said. "Whatever we need to do to win, it's on. ... I'll tell the guys upstairs this, too, they know that: Whatever it takes to win. If it's throwing the ball lefthanded, and that's gonna make us win, fine. I'll do it. It doesn't matter. We need to win."

Must also be why teams like the Ravens and Peyton's Colts never win super bowls...cuz their QBs are too busy taking max deals and not restructuring!

Wait a minute, has anyone asked him to do this? Maybe it would help.

Johnny Rico · 03-22-2013, 07:23 AM

Why do people act like restructuring is some sort of sacrifice? If it cost them anything to do it then they just simply wouldn't. It doesn't affect total payout one bit, and just makes players harder to cut in the future.

Dreamers · 03-22-2013, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

Am I the only one that finds TX way more tolerable than GMC or SAR?

SAR doesn't believe a word he types. He just does it to tick people off. TX actually has a point on most of his posts.

crasherino · 03-22-2013, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jetstream23

Wait a minute, has anyone asked him to do this? Maybe it would help.

That's Eli too

THat guy will do WHATEVER it takes to win!

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Late in the second quarter of Sunday's 41-13 victory against the Rams, the Giants' fifth-year quarterback was under pressure from end James Hall, who had his left arm on Manning's chest and used his right arm to pin Manning's throwing arm at his side. So Manning simply cocked back with his left arm and flung a pass to Brandon Jacobs for a 2-yard completion.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...ng_making.html

03-21-2013, 09:29 PM	#1
Nike Fix it or sell it Woody! Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,386	this is why the giants win super bowls. Yesterday, quarterback Eli Manning said he'd be willing to listen if the Giants approached him about reworking his contract to get Victor Cruz in the fold. And today, right tackle David Diehl said to count him in. "I would be willing to do some things to restructure and help other guys out and keep a great teammate ... like Victor Cruz," Diehl said tonight on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access." "I have restructured before in my 10 seasons of being a New York Giant. It is not something I am unfamiliar with. That’s part of the business in the NFL.” In Diehl's case, he would likely have to take a pay cut. The 10-year veteran offensive lineman only has one year left on his contract -- with a base salary of $4.475 million and a cap figure of $6.903 million -- so the cap dollars can't be pushed into future years. The Giants have managed to make a series of low-cost free agency moves that fir under the cap, but will need more space down the line, potentially to sign rookies in the summer. Will Diehl end up redoing his contract? “Nothing’s happening as of yet," Diehl said. "I have been there the last seven weeks after having my knee scoped and having some surgery. I have been going there, in and out each and every day. We will see what happens, what happens [and] plays out here with Victor Cruz and everything like that.” Cruz, who set the Giants' single-season receiving record in 2011, is a restricted free agent. Negotiations with the Giants toward a long-term deal have so far not been fruitful. “You are talking a critical piece of to our offense," Diehl said. "It is important to get a guy like Victor Cruz back to go inside with Hakeem Nicks coming off injury.” Diehl added, "He doesn’t want to go anywhere, he wants to stay a New York Giant, just like we want him to. Obviously now this is now structuring the money, getting him a deal that he thinks is fair, that he wants to sign. Like I said, knowing from my coaches that I play for on the Giants, or teammates, we definitely want Victor Cruz in our locker room. He is going to help us win football games and get us back to the Super Bowl.”

03-22-2013, 12:32 AM	#14
ASG0531 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,709	more accurately spoken, this is why teams who draft well, develop talent well, coach them well, and play free agency well put their teams in position to win the league championship. good teams do that. everything after is a crapshoot if the best team has 60/40 odds in the reg season, and the playoffs are 52/48. Last edited by ASG0531; 03-22-2013 at 12:42 AM.

03-21-2013, 09:36 PM	#2
AFCEastFan Money now -- and a lot more when I get into that office. You can take that to the bank. All League Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,026	Plenty players on lousy teams have restructured their contracts in order to help acquire/retain players as well.

03-21-2013, 09:47 PM	#3
jeT.MAC All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,513	Ask Namath aka JDub why jets haven't W SB's since SB3.

03-21-2013, 09:49 PM	#4
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,207	Already a thread.

03-21-2013, 09:53 PM	#5
Ray Ray19 Not a SOJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,793	This is why Nike aka GMCJets should not be allowed to create threads.

03-21-2013, 10:39 PM	#7
Gastineau99 Section 135 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,344	Plenty of Jets player have restructured over the past couple years, including Suckchez. Brady just restructured to keep Welker, while Kraft and Belly low-balled him and they ended up paying Amendola a king's ransom. This isn't why the Giants win super bowls, they win super bowls because they are the luckiest organization in sports: Norwood wide left, Packers missed FGs, Favre ****ting the bed, Eli being sacked but player heard whistle and let him go, Tyree catch, Lee Evans dropped TD vs Pats, Welker drop/Brady overthrow, Manningham catch. Giants hours have 1 SB victory and that's 1986. Also, if the Jets played in the NFC East over the past 15 years, they would probably have had a shot at some Super Bowls. Going up against the Pats every year has been rough. NFC East would have been a lot easier road: 1998, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2009, 2010,

03-21-2013, 11:04 PM	#9
SgtAshton Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 266	And I thought it was making those critical plays at the right time.

03-21-2013, 11:48 PM	#13
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,394	They also resigned Carr keeping a good BU. They know good depth wins. The thing people dont get is they can loose Cruz and still be well off. Jernigan and Randle where both high round picks and I could very well see them dipping into the well again this year given the WR depth. After OLB and maybe DB it is not like they have a lot of holes.

03-22-2013, 12:50 AM	#15
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,402	Am I the only one that finds TX way more tolerable than GMC or SAR?

03-22-2013, 07:23 AM	#18
Johnny Rico Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 618	Why do people act like restructuring is some sort of sacrifice? If it cost them anything to do it then they just simply wouldn't. It doesn't affect total payout one bit, and just makes players harder to cut in the future.