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Old 02-24-2005, 06:57 PM   #41
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Sorry guys, i meant Hakim not Peter. ive had a long week.
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Old 02-24-2005, 07:21 PM   #42
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Thomas has been a disaster.

It's time for him to go and give the draft picks to the next guy.
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Old 02-24-2005, 11:08 PM   #43
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The problem with this trade isn't only that it puts the Knicks even more over the cap. It's also that they now have another two mediocre players with big contracts who will now have to remain on the team the next couple years - players with contracts like that won't be released, and can only be traded to the Knicks, no one else is taking contracts like that without giving the same thing up.

So for the talk of getting draft picks, helping the Knicks rebuild, it's going to be hard to rebuild when you have all these players who can't be released, taking up roster spots the next couple years.
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Old 02-25-2005, 07:03 AM   #44
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late draft picks these days dont mean much
Wrong.

Mark Madsen, Nazr, the backup point on the Spurs, Tinsley, among others, were #29 picks the past few years. Also, Ariza and Boozer, as well as a slew of others, were 2nd rounders who made it.

Any pick is worth having. You never know.

Besides, how many lottery guys never made it?
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Old 02-25-2005, 10:41 AM   #45
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Other late draft picks include Josh Howard and Tony Parker. Both relatively recently.
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Old 02-26-2005, 03:53 PM   #46
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Old 02-28-2005, 08:37 AM   #47
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Late 1st don't mean much... the NBA might install an age limit in the future which would REALLY thin out the draft for a few years plus the contracts are guaranteed.
But it would mean that all the underage kids come out this year, which means a late 1st rounder could be worth a lot more then usual.
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Old 02-28-2005, 08:40 AM   #48
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Originally posted by Matt39+Feb 26 2005, 02:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Matt39 @ Feb 26 2005, 02:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mbn007@Feb 25 2005, 09:03 AM


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I stopped reading after that. [/b][/quote]
To bad you did. There are quite a few guys who are solid players taken after #29 in the draft.
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Old 03-08-2005, 04:24 PM   #49
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Originally posted by EZV+Feb 24 2005, 03:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (EZV @ Feb 24 2005, 03:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-The Sowell Train@Feb 24 2005, 04:00 PM
" late draft picks these days dont mean much"

Tell that to Josh Howard, Marquise Daniels, Trevor Ariza, Al Jefferson, Tony Allen, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Kyle Korver, Jr Smith, Willie Greene, Carlos Boozer, Tayshaun Prince, Ben Udirh and many many more!
booyah! [/b][/quote]
dont forget Gilbert Arenas and Nick Van Exel.
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Old 03-09-2005, 01:32 PM   #50
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@Feb 24 2005, 04:00 PM
" late draft picks these days dont mean much"

Tell that to Josh Howard, Marquise Daniels, Trevor Ariza, Al Jefferson, Tony Allen, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Kyle Korver, Jr Smith, Willie Greene, Carlos Boozer, Tayshaun Prince, Ben Udirh and many many more!

booyah!
dont forget Gilbert Arenas and Nick Van Exel. [/b][/quote]
But you get the point. The whole draft is a crapshoot. Talent in college does not always translate to the same in the pros. It seems to work fairly well in the NFL, but the NBA is vastly different.

So, any pick is worth it.
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