Peter Boulware, Chad Brown and Jamie Sharper

YJF · 05-18-2006, 06:49 PM

It's very possible that The Jets add a veteran presence for their 3-4 in the next few weeks before training camp starts or during. The possibility is mentioned at newyorkjets.com and Coach Mangini mentioned the possibility of still adding from the outside if The Jets need to.

The Jets have plenty of inside linebackers. They could use a veteran presence at OLB. Someone who has 3-4 experience and can be a part time pass rusher.

The two veterans that stand out to me are Peter Boulware and Chad Brown. They are both out there right now on the market. Both have 3-4 experience, Both are good veteran character guys and both have been proven pass rushers off the edge in the past. They would strictly be one year stop gaps.

Sort of like Bryan Cox was for New England a few years ago. Jamie Sharper is also out there and has inside and outside experience in The 3-4. He could be a possibility as well.

RMJK · 05-18-2006, 07:02 PM

Mangini said they would not leave any stone unturned looking for talent.
Isn't there a supplemental draft comming up soon. And around June 1 I believe every year there are also a few guys who get cut. Supply and demand rules.
Maybe Mangini and Tannenbaum have other player in mind before the pull the trigger on the more expensive Vets. I dunno just a thought.

YJF · 05-18-2006, 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=RMJK]Mangini said they would not leave any stone unturned looking for talent.
Isn't there a supplemental draft comming up soon. And around June 1 I believe every year there are also a few guys who get cut. Supply and demand rules.
Maybe Mangini and Tannenbaum have other player in mind before the pull the trigger on the more expensive Vets. I dunno just a thought.[/QUOTE]

Ahmad Brooks????

It's much easier to find role players than star players. At this stage of the process, You are staring basically at role player type guys. You have to get really lucky to find starters. Sometimes injuries force you into the market place.

There are some vets still out there looking for work like The Kerry Collins, Ty Laws, Ahmed Plummers, Grady Jacksons, Peter Boulware etc

I think that The Jets are going to look at OLB. Boulware and Brown have both played in The 3-4 and 4-3 as pass rushers. I think if The Jets don't like what they see from the likes of Thomas, Trevor Johnson etc... The Jets could look to add a veteran stop gap presence. Boulware would be a nice mentor towards someone like Thomas. The key is Peter's health. He'd only be playing 10 to 20 snaps a game.

Kerry Rhodes · 05-18-2006, 08:00 PM

chad brown would be a nice one year stop gap.

Bubby Brister · 05-18-2006, 08:15 PM

refresh my memory...Peter is the older Boulware, right? how much of a contract would we command if we inked him to a 1 year deal, Ty Law style?

YJF · 05-18-2006, 08:31 PM

[QUOTE=Bubby Brister]refresh my memory...Peter is the older Boulware, right? how much of a contract would we command if we inked him to a 1 year deal, Ty Law style?[/QUOTE]

No way. veteran minimum. Maybe a small signing bonus. Nothing major. Basically a 1 year deal for like a million and change.

I don't think that The Jets will pursue any "street" free agents until after the next camp. They may wait until the middle of training camp to add some extra pieces.

So much can change in a year in The NFL. When veterans slide, They slide fast. It doesn't happen gradually. I remember a year ago on this site. Green Jets and Ham and others saying that we should go after Peter Boulware so we could form a "super unit" at LB. A year later, Boulware is out of the league and unwanted property.

A year ago, Curtis Martin leads the league in rushing and has a monster season where he has 1,800 yards of total offense and double digit td's. A year later, You can make the argument that if you were ranking starting RB's in The NFL. Martin would ranked at the bottom. A year in The NFL is a long time.

I really don't know if Brown, Boulware, Sharper or anyone else have anything left in the tank. But if one of them does, I would not be shocked if The Jets took a flyer on one of these guys for just one season. Unless one of these young players emerge at OLB as an edge rusher. I'm guessing that The Jets will add a veteran OLB in camp.

HessStation · 05-18-2006, 08:56 PM

Boulware and Sharper are 31. Chad Brown 35.
Any Reports on Boulware's health?

PatsFanTX · 05-18-2006, 09:03 PM

[QUOTE=YJF]

No way. veteran minimum. Maybe a small signing bonus. Nothing major. Basically a 1 year deal for like a million and change.

[/QUOTE]

See, YJF understands what is going on with the new regime.

There is no way in hell Mangini goes out and signs a FA/June 1st cut to a large, multi-year contract.

It's all about role players for the upcoming season.

The best move the Pats ever made was signing Teddy Washington to a vet minimum, one year contract in 2003. The guy was pure gold. :yes:

YJF · 05-18-2006, 09:11 PM

[QUOTE=HessStation]Boulware and Sharper are 31. Chad Brown 35.
Any Reports on Boulware's health?[/QUOTE]

Boulware's health is the biggest key. He hasn't been the same player since injuries started in 2004 for him. In 2003, He had 8 and a half sacks. He has 70 career sacks but he missed all of 04 and Baltimore actually brought him back last year after Dan Cody got hurt. Peter played 15 games and had only 2 and a half sacks.

If he's healthy. I'd consider signing him for one year.

JetinHuntersville · 05-18-2006, 09:19 PM

[QUOTE=YJF]It's very possible that The Jets add a veteran presence for their 3-4 in the next few weeks before training camp starts or during. The possibility is mentioned at newyorkjets.com and Coach Mangini mentioned the possibility of still adding from the outside if The Jets need to.

The Jets have plenty of inside linebackers. They could use a veteran presence at OLB. Someone who has 3-4 experience and can be a part time pass rusher.

The two veterans that stand out to me are Peter Boulware and Chad Brown. They are both out there right now on the market. Both have 3-4 experience, Both are good veteran character guys and both have been proven pass rushers off the edge in the past. They would strictly be one year stop gaps.

Sort of like Bryan Cox was for New England a few years ago. Jamie Sharper is also out there and has inside and outside experience in The 3-4. He could be a possibility as well.[/QUOTE]

Chad Brown has been toast for 3 years or so.

HessStation · 05-18-2006, 09:19 PM

[QUOTE=YJF]Boulware's health is the biggest key. He hasn't been the same player since injuries started in 2004 for him. In 2003, He had 8 and a half sacks. He has 70 career sacks but he missed all of 04 and Baltimore actually brought him back last year after Dan Cody got hurt. Peter played 15 games and had only 2 and a half sacks.

If he's healthy. I'd consider signing him for one year.[/QUOTE]

If healthy he's the guy I like best w/ the right contract

YJF · 05-18-2006, 09:29 PM

[QUOTE=HessStation]If healthy he's the guy I like best w/ the right contract[/QUOTE]

Signing veteran guys late in the process doesn't always work out.

As TX mentioned, Sometimes you hit the jackpot and get Ted Washington and other times you end up with Chester McGlockton.

The key is to scout whether or not, these players still have the hunger to play and win. Sometimes, veteran players at the end of the road are just looking for one last paycheck and mentally have already retired but they haven't told anyone else. They try to milk their career for all it's worth.

If we bring in a veteran, I want it to be someone who still cares about the game and still has that passion for it.

If Peter Boulware has that hunger and is not just out for one last paycheck and provided he's healthy. I'd look into signing him. Jets could use a situational pass rusher who can provide a veteran presence at OLB. 31 in everyday life isn't old but in football 31 is like being 70. You may not be dead yet but your day is coming.

Buzzsaw · 05-18-2006, 09:36 PM

I'd love for us to take a shot at getting Boulware.

PatsFanTX · 05-18-2006, 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=YJF]

As TX mentioned, Sometimes you hit the jackpot and get Ted Washington and other times you end up with Chester McGlockton.

[/QUOTE]

Or a Duane Starks. :eek:

Bottom line, the risk is extremely low when you offer players a one-year vet minimum contract and the reward could be substantial.

Just like the draft, it's a roll of the dice, but with far less financial exposure.

HessStation · 05-18-2006, 09:43 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX]Or a Duane Starks. :eek:

Bottom line, the risk is extremely low when you offer players a one-year vet minimum contract and the reward could be substantial.

Just like the draft, it's a roll of the dice, but with far less financial exposure.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, so if I'm picking one of the 3 to take a shot on it's Boulware

Kerry Rhodes · 05-19-2006, 04:14 PM

Tx, didnt you guys trade for Starks and washington?(Late round picks)?

shasta · 05-19-2006, 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=Kerry Rhodes]chad brown would be a nice one year stop gap.[/QUOTE]

Chad Brown couldn't make it on to the field last season for the Patriots, they played Montey Bisel ahead of Chad Brown. :eek: That should tell you how bad he is.

shasta · 05-19-2006, 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX]See, YJF understands what is going on with the new regime.

There is no way in hell Mangini goes out and signs a FA/June 1st cut to a large, multi-year contract.

It's all about role players for the upcoming season.

The best move the Pats ever made was signing Teddy Washington to a vet minimum, one year contract in 2003. The guy was pure gold. :yes:[/QUOTE]

TX ,,,,, we gave up a 3rd round pick for Ted Washington. ;)

05-19-2006, 04:27 PM

Grady Jackson would be a very solid pickup for NT

JiF · 05-19-2006, 04:33 PM

Jackson is the only guy that is intriguing to me. IMO we are not headed to the SB or anything, I would like to see us play all of our youth and get them expierenced. We have added depth already, now lets develop our youngsters by giving them PT. If Mangini is anything like Belly, he will be able to put anyone out there and get them to buy into the system.

05-18-2006, 06:49 PM	#1
YJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 11,495	Peter Boulware, Chad Brown and Jamie Sharper It's very possible that The Jets add a veteran presence for their 3-4 in the next few weeks before training camp starts or during. The possibility is mentioned at newyorkjets.com and Coach Mangini mentioned the possibility of still adding from the outside if The Jets need to. The Jets have plenty of inside linebackers. They could use a veteran presence at OLB. Someone who has 3-4 experience and can be a part time pass rusher. The two veterans that stand out to me are Peter Boulware and Chad Brown. They are both out there right now on the market. Both have 3-4 experience, Both are good veteran character guys and both have been proven pass rushers off the edge in the past. They would strictly be one year stop gaps. Sort of like Bryan Cox was for New England a few years ago. Jamie Sharper is also out there and has inside and outside experience in The 3-4. He could be a possibility as well. Last edited by YJF; 05-18-2006 at 06:54 PM.

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05-18-2006, 07:02 PM	#2
RMJK Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warwick, New York Posts: 14,641	Mangini said they would not leave any stone unturned looking for talent. Isn't there a supplemental draft comming up soon. And around June 1 I believe every year there are also a few guys who get cut. Supply and demand rules. Maybe Mangini and Tannenbaum have other player in mind before the pull the trigger on the more expensive Vets. I dunno just a thought.

05-18-2006, 07:20 PM	#3
YJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 11,495	[QUOTE=RMJK]Mangini said they would not leave any stone unturned looking for talent. Isn't there a supplemental draft comming up soon. And around June 1 I believe every year there are also a few guys who get cut. Supply and demand rules. Maybe Mangini and Tannenbaum have other player in mind before the pull the trigger on the more expensive Vets. I dunno just a thought.[/QUOTE] Ahmad Brooks???? It's much easier to find role players than star players. At this stage of the process, You are staring basically at role player type guys. You have to get really lucky to find starters. Sometimes injuries force you into the market place. There are some vets still out there looking for work like The Kerry Collins, Ty Laws, Ahmed Plummers, Grady Jacksons, Peter Boulware etc I think that The Jets are going to look at OLB. Boulware and Brown have both played in The 3-4 and 4-3 as pass rushers. I think if The Jets don't like what they see from the likes of Thomas, Trevor Johnson etc... The Jets could look to add a veteran stop gap presence. Boulware would be a nice mentor towards someone like Thomas. The key is Peter's health. He'd only be playing 10 to 20 snaps a game.

05-18-2006, 08:00 PM	#4
Kerry Rhodes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,085	chad brown would be a nice one year stop gap.

05-18-2006, 08:15 PM	#5
Bubby Brister All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,973	refresh my memory...Peter is the older Boulware, right? how much of a contract would we command if we inked him to a 1 year deal, Ty Law style?

05-18-2006, 08:31 PM	#6
YJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 11,495	[QUOTE=Bubby Brister]refresh my memory...Peter is the older Boulware, right? how much of a contract would we command if we inked him to a 1 year deal, Ty Law style?[/QUOTE] No way. veteran minimum. Maybe a small signing bonus. Nothing major. Basically a 1 year deal for like a million and change. I don't think that The Jets will pursue any "street" free agents until after the next camp. They may wait until the middle of training camp to add some extra pieces. So much can change in a year in The NFL. When veterans slide, They slide fast. It doesn't happen gradually. I remember a year ago on this site. Green Jets and Ham and others saying that we should go after Peter Boulware so we could form a "super unit" at LB. A year later, Boulware is out of the league and unwanted property. A year ago, Curtis Martin leads the league in rushing and has a monster season where he has 1,800 yards of total offense and double digit td's. A year later, You can make the argument that if you were ranking starting RB's in The NFL. Martin would ranked at the bottom. A year in The NFL is a long time. I really don't know if Brown, Boulware, Sharper or anyone else have anything left in the tank. But if one of them does, I would not be shocked if The Jets took a flyer on one of these guys for just one season. Unless one of these young players emerge at OLB as an edge rusher. I'm guessing that The Jets will add a veteran OLB in camp.

05-18-2006, 08:56 PM	#7
HessStation is Matt Jones...and no, I'm not coming here GFY Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,608	Boulware and Sharper are 31. Chad Brown 35. Any Reports on Boulware's health?

05-18-2006, 09:03 PM	#8
PatsFanTX Look in the dictionary under the word TROLL and my picture is there. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 47,885	[QUOTE=YJF] No way. veteran minimum. Maybe a small signing bonus. Nothing major. Basically a 1 year deal for like a million and change. [/QUOTE] See, YJF understands what is going on with the new regime. There is no way in hell Mangini goes out and signs a FA/June 1st cut to a large, multi-year contract. It's all about role players for the upcoming season. The best move the Pats ever made was signing Teddy Washington to a vet minimum, one year contract in 2003. The guy was pure gold. :yes:

05-18-2006, 09:11 PM	#9
YJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 11,495	[QUOTE=HessStation]Boulware and Sharper are 31. Chad Brown 35. Any Reports on Boulware's health?[/QUOTE] Boulware's health is the biggest key. He hasn't been the same player since injuries started in 2004 for him. In 2003, He had 8 and a half sacks. He has 70 career sacks but he missed all of 04 and Baltimore actually brought him back last year after Dan Cody got hurt. Peter played 15 games and had only 2 and a half sacks. If he's healthy. I'd consider signing him for one year.

05-18-2006, 09:19 PM	#10
JetinHuntersville Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,855	[QUOTE=YJF]It's very possible that The Jets add a veteran presence for their 3-4 in the next few weeks before training camp starts or during. The possibility is mentioned at newyorkjets.com and Coach Mangini mentioned the possibility of still adding from the outside if The Jets need to. The Jets have plenty of inside linebackers. They could use a veteran presence at OLB. Someone who has 3-4 experience and can be a part time pass rusher. The two veterans that stand out to me are Peter Boulware and Chad Brown. They are both out there right now on the market. Both have 3-4 experience, Both are good veteran character guys and both have been proven pass rushers off the edge in the past. They would strictly be one year stop gaps. Sort of like Bryan Cox was for New England a few years ago. Jamie Sharper is also out there and has inside and outside experience in The 3-4. He could be a possibility as well.[/QUOTE] Chad Brown has been toast for 3 years or so.

05-18-2006, 09:29 PM	#12
YJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 11,495	[QUOTE=HessStation]If healthy he's the guy I like best w/ the right contract[/QUOTE] Signing veteran guys late in the process doesn't always work out. As TX mentioned, Sometimes you hit the jackpot and get Ted Washington and other times you end up with Chester McGlockton. The key is to scout whether or not, these players still have the hunger to play and win. Sometimes, veteran players at the end of the road are just looking for one last paycheck and mentally have already retired but they haven't told anyone else. They try to milk their career for all it's worth. If we bring in a veteran, I want it to be someone who still cares about the game and still has that passion for it. If Peter Boulware has that hunger and is not just out for one last paycheck and provided he's healthy. I'd look into signing him. Jets could use a situational pass rusher who can provide a veteran presence at OLB. 31 in everyday life isn't old but in football 31 is like being 70. You may not be dead yet but your day is coming.

05-18-2006, 09:36 PM	#13
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24,546	I'd love for us to take a shot at getting Boulware.

05-18-2006, 09:40 PM	#14
PatsFanTX Look in the dictionary under the word TROLL and my picture is there. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 47,885	[QUOTE=YJF] As TX mentioned, Sometimes you hit the jackpot and get Ted Washington and other times you end up with Chester McGlockton. [/QUOTE] Or a Duane Starks. :eek: Bottom line, the risk is extremely low when you offer players a one-year vet minimum contract and the reward could be substantial. Just like the draft, it's a roll of the dice, but with far less financial exposure.

05-18-2006, 09:43 PM	#15
HessStation is Matt Jones...and no, I'm not coming here GFY Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,608	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX]Or a Duane Starks. :eek: Bottom line, the risk is extremely low when you offer players a one-year vet minimum contract and the reward could be substantial. Just like the draft, it's a roll of the dice, but with far less financial exposure.[/QUOTE] Exactly, so if I'm picking one of the 3 to take a shot on it's Boulware

05-19-2006, 04:14 PM	#16
Kerry Rhodes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,085	Tx, didnt you guys trade for Starks and washington?(Late round picks)?

05-19-2006, 04:18 PM	#17
shasta Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,266	[QUOTE=Kerry Rhodes]chad brown would be a nice one year stop gap.[/QUOTE] Chad Brown couldn't make it on to the field last season for the Patriots, they played Montey Bisel ahead of Chad Brown. :eek: That should tell you how bad he is.

05-19-2006, 04:19 PM	#18
shasta Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,266	[QUOTE=PatsFanTX]See, YJF understands what is going on with the new regime. There is no way in hell Mangini goes out and signs a FA/June 1st cut to a large, multi-year contract. It's all about role players for the upcoming season. The best move the Pats ever made was signing Teddy Washington to a vet minimum, one year contract in 2003. The guy was pure gold. :yes:[/QUOTE] TX ,,,,, we gave up a 3rd round pick for Ted Washington. ;)

05-19-2006, 04:27 PM	#19
wickedtwisted Edit Status Guest Posts: n/a	Grady Jackson would be a very solid pickup for NT

05-19-2006, 04:33 PM	#20
JiF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell Posts: 12,711	Jackson is the only guy that is intriguing to me. IMO we are not headed to the SB or anything, I would like to see us play all of our youth and get them expierenced. We have added depth already, now lets develop our youngsters by giving them PT. If Mangini is anything like Belly, he will be able to put anyone out there and get them to buy into the system.

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