OT: Do you think Pujols is on ROIDS????

One Eye · 05-30-2006, 11:33 AM

Do you think Albert Pujols is on steroids or Human Growth Hormones?? Here is an article about his incredible accomplishments so far this year on ESPN @ http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/s...orthops_060529. I hope he isn't, but his numbers put him in company with only Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, and the Babe. We know the Babe was on beer and hot dogs, but that was many years ago. The other two, well....

By Mark Simon, ESPN Research

The chase for history didn't end with Barry Bonds passing Babe Ruth on the all-time home run list. In fact, another pursuit is continuing courtesy of Albert Pujols.
On Monday, Pujols hit his 25th home run of the season, lifting the Cardinals to a win over the Astros. Pujols is right on pace with some of the game's all-time greats in pursuit of the single-season home run record, chasing names like Bonds and Mark McGwire.

And with 64 RBI, Pujols is one-third of the way to Hack Wilson's single-season RBI mark of 190.

Fewest team games to 25 home runs (all-time):
Player Year Team games
Barry Bonds 2001 47
Mark McGwire 1998 49
Albert Pujols 2006 51
Barry Bonds 2000 55
Babe Ruth 1928 55

MrSFJFC · 05-30-2006, 11:41 AM

That's funny because I was thinking about that and I still don't know. I know when he first came directly to the Majors from Double A, they were already touting him as a star. Each year he has shown more and more improvement too. Based on that, you could say that he isn't but you never know but I hope he isn't.

Chrisrud · 05-30-2006, 11:44 AM

I was actually going to do a column on that this week on why is he above suspicion. The other players who have hit 60 since Maris (Bonds, McGwire, Sosa) have all had to deal with this but Pujols hasn't for some reason.

Mr. Yankee · 05-30-2006, 11:45 AM

No way. Pujols has been unbelievable his entire career. He hasn't just had this power surge the last few seasons. He has been simply amazing throughout his professional career.

Mr. Yankee · 05-30-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrisrud

I was actually going to do a column on that this week on why is he above suspicion. The other players who have hit 60 since Maris (Bonds, McGwire, Sosa) have all had to deal with this but Pujols hasn't for some reason.

A column for what?

Al Woodall Rocks! · 05-30-2006, 11:51 AM

Man, I hope not! The sport doesn't need any more of this crap!

He has been an awesome talent since Day 1.
I say NO. He is just maturing as a player and may already be the best in baseball.

IM3 · 05-30-2006, 11:52 AM

Could he be on the juice-sure

Do I have ANY reason to believe he is-no

I against I · 05-30-2006, 11:57 AM

He's on arroz con gandules and pernil.

One Eye · 05-30-2006, 11:58 AM

I think the bottom line is, whether or not you believe he is, we all agree that we don't trust MLB's testing system. It's sad that now, everytime a player accomplishes something like this, our first reaction will be 'I wonder if he is on ROIDS'. I blame it on BUD!!!!

SinceSheaSicko · 05-30-2006, 12:03 PM

If Pujols was 40 yrs old and hitting more homers in July and August than anyone else, then you have point. Most guys wear down in the summer months but when Bonds was going off while everybody else was hitting the wall and he started doing it every year, you had to think something was up. Plus now that they test, it's probably a little more difficult to get away with it. I'd be surprised if he gets to 73 but I hope he does it because Bonds is such an a**hole.

Micaboy · 05-30-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetsec333

He's on arroz con gandules and pernil.

Man if pernil does that, then I gotta eat some more

deadringer · 05-30-2006, 12:29 PM

no...there were pleanty of great power hitters before steroids, no reason to assume that every power hitter today is using...pujols is just a great ballplayer...

Bleedgreen · 05-30-2006, 12:32 PM

Well, he's the best hitter in baseball.....so he must be.

rbstern · 05-30-2006, 12:37 PM

I've noticed his physique has changed, he's looking bulkier, and it's starting to worry me a bit. Hope it's just hard work without any enhancers.

YJF · 05-30-2006, 12:48 PM

OT: Do you think Pujols is on ROIDS????

It's certainly possible. Here's the thing. All athletes take supplements of some kind. That's a given.

It is possible to get stronger and bigger without using steroids or "illegal enhancers". You can put on muscle and strength without doing "ROIDS".

You have all types of drugs that athletes take for different reasons. There are supplements on the market that are specifically for adding strength and there are supplements on the market that help players recover from injuries at a faster rate. There are all different kinds of drinks and pills that help you boost your energy and alot of people not just athletes take these things.

I'd love to be able to see MLB's list of supplements that are not banned. I guarantee everyone uses them.

Pujols is on something. Every athlete and player is on something.

There's no such thing in sports as a player who just drinks milk and eats spinach. This isn't The 1920's. Sports medicine is so advanced and athletes are advanced.

SMC · 05-30-2006, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetsec333

He's on arroz con gandules and pernil.

That will definately help him with the long ball.

But the biggest question mark for me is, how old is this guy? It doesn't hurt him in the homer department for a season, but it will definately impact his career. Knowing that there is no real department of vital statistics in DR checking for the accuracy of records, Pujols is probably 32 years old, rather than the 26 he claims.

SMC · 05-30-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Micaboy

Man if pernil does that, then I gotta eat some more

Hey, it added some MPH for my Moms throwing her slipper at us.

deadringer · 05-30-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC

That will definately help him with the long ball.

But the biggest question mark for me is, how old is this guy? It doesn't hurt him in the homer department for a season, but it will definately impact his career. Knowing that there is no real department of vital statistics in DR checking for the accuracy of records, Pujols is probably 32 years old, rather than the 26 he claims.

six years seems like a bit much smc...i'd say he's closer to 28 than 26, but to put him over 30 seems a bit high...

SMC · 05-30-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by deadringer

six years seems like a bit much smc...i'd say he's closer to 28 than 26, but to put him over 30 seems a bit high...

Of course, it was exageration for effect.

My money is on 29. I thought he was 28 last year.

RMJK · 05-30-2006, 02:50 PM

No way; he's always been huge and muscular from the getgo unlike Bonds.

05-30-2006, 11:33 AM	#1
One Eye RIP 2012 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2006 Location: Manalapan, NJ Posts: 2,220	OT: Do you think Pujols is on ROIDS???? Do you think Albert Pujols is on steroids or Human Growth Hormones?? Here is an article about his incredible accomplishments so far this year on ESPN @ http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/s...orthops_060529. I hope he isn't, but his numbers put him in company with only Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, and the Babe. We know the Babe was on beer and hot dogs, but that was many years ago. The other two, well.... By Mark Simon, ESPN Research The chase for history didn't end with Barry Bonds passing Babe Ruth on the all-time home run list. In fact, another pursuit is continuing courtesy of Albert Pujols. On Monday, Pujols hit his 25th home run of the season, lifting the Cardinals to a win over the Astros. Pujols is right on pace with some of the game's all-time greats in pursuit of the single-season home run record, chasing names like Bonds and Mark McGwire. And with 64 RBI, Pujols is one-third of the way to Hack Wilson's single-season RBI mark of 190. Fewest team games to 25 home runs (all-time): Player Year Team games Barry Bonds 2001 47 Mark McGwire 1998 49 Albert Pujols 2006 51 Barry Bonds 2000 55 Babe Ruth 1928 55

05-30-2006, 11:41 AM	#2
MrSFJFC Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 5,937	That's funny because I was thinking about that and I still don't know. I know when he first came directly to the Majors from Double A, they were already touting him as a star. Each year he has shown more and more improvement too. Based on that, you could say that he isn't but you never know but I hope he isn't. Last edited by MrSFJFC; 05-30-2006 at 11:49 AM.

05-30-2006, 11:44 AM	#3
Chrisrud Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,279	I was actually going to do a column on that this week on why is he above suspicion. The other players who have hit 60 since Maris (Bonds, McGwire, Sosa) have all had to deal with this but Pujols hasn't for some reason.

05-30-2006, 11:45 AM	#4
Mr. Yankee Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,617	No way. Pujols has been unbelievable his entire career. He hasn't just had this power surge the last few seasons. He has been simply amazing throughout his professional career.

05-30-2006, 11:51 AM	#6
Al Woodall Rocks! Rick Nash is a MONSTER BEAST! All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 2,882	Man, I hope not! The sport doesn't need any more of this crap! He has been an awesome talent since Day 1. I say NO. He is just maturing as a player and may already be the best in baseball.

05-30-2006, 11:52 AM	#7
IM3 SMH Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 22,491	Could he be on the juice-sure Do I have ANY reason to believe he is-no

05-30-2006, 11:57 AM	#8
I against I drinks from the poison well Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Jackson Heights Posts: 2,212	He's on arroz con gandules and pernil.

05-30-2006, 11:58 AM	#9
One Eye RIP 2012 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2006 Location: Manalapan, NJ Posts: 2,220	I think the bottom line is, whether or not you believe he is, we all agree that we don't trust MLB's testing system. It's sad that now, everytime a player accomplishes something like this, our first reaction will be 'I wonder if he is on ROIDS'. I blame it on BUD!!!!

05-30-2006, 12:03 PM	#10
SinceSheaSicko Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 92	If Pujols was 40 yrs old and hitting more homers in July and August than anyone else, then you have point. Most guys wear down in the summer months but when Bonds was going off while everybody else was hitting the wall and he started doing it every year, you had to think something was up. Plus now that they test, it's probably a little more difficult to get away with it. I'd be surprised if he gets to 73 but I hope he does it because Bonds is such an a**hole.

05-30-2006, 12:29 PM	#12
deadringer Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Camden, NJ Posts: 4,746	no...there were pleanty of great power hitters before steroids, no reason to assume that every power hitter today is using...pujols is just a great ballplayer...

05-30-2006, 12:32 PM	#13
Bleedgreen All League Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,655	Well, he's the best hitter in baseball.....so he must be.

05-30-2006, 12:37 PM	#14
rbstern Board Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,549	I've noticed his physique has changed, he's looking bulkier, and it's starting to worry me a bit. Hope it's just hard work without any enhancers.

05-30-2006, 12:48 PM	#15
YJF Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 11,462	OT: Do you think Pujols is on ROIDS???? It's certainly possible. Here's the thing. All athletes take supplements of some kind. That's a given. It is possible to get stronger and bigger without using steroids or "illegal enhancers". You can put on muscle and strength without doing "ROIDS". You have all types of drugs that athletes take for different reasons. There are supplements on the market that are specifically for adding strength and there are supplements on the market that help players recover from injuries at a faster rate. There are all different kinds of drinks and pills that help you boost your energy and alot of people not just athletes take these things. I'd love to be able to see MLB's list of supplements that are not banned. I guarantee everyone uses them. Pujols is on something. Every athlete and player is on something. There's no such thing in sports as a player who just drinks milk and eats spinach. This isn't The 1920's. Sports medicine is so advanced and athletes are advanced.

05-30-2006, 02:50 PM	#20
RMJK Think outside the box. Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warwick, New York Posts: 15,785	No way; he's always been huge and muscular from the getgo unlike Bonds.